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Naruto/Boruto Dattebayo General Discussion Thread #12
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@BFF
I don't think it's true. That implies Blind Sasuke=SM Naruto which is false. Kishimoto loves to state how they are equal (especially Naruto and Sasuke) with statements but the facts are completely different.
Also, I think Amaterasu is really hot. It's hot as the sun itself statement in the databook is probably true. I gathering some scans and trying to find the calc that 8-A(?) durability need to survive from the Sun's surface heat.
@Omimi
Sasuke's Susano'o is mostly defense.
I don't think it's true. That implies Blind Sasuke=SM Naruto which is false. Kishimoto loves to state how they are equal (especially Naruto and Sasuke) with statements but the facts are completely different.
Also, I think Amaterasu is really hot. It's hot as the sun itself statement in the databook is probably true. I gathering some scans and trying to find the calc that 8-A(?) durability need to survive from the Sun's surface heat.
@Omimi
Sasuke's Susano'o is mostly defense.
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Sasuke wasn't completely blind, I think. But yeah, Kishi likes to portray them as equals. Though I don't see what contradicts it in this case.
It's inconsistent, but how's that important?
It's inconsistent, but how's that important?
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We can take statements without considering feats. Also, we have a match between SM Naruto and Taka Sasuke that people explain enough.
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You can, if there's nothing contradicting it.
But people also think Juubito beats Toneri, and could give SPSM Naruto a good fight. Do we scale them like that? Nope. Opinions on versus threads have no effect on character ratings.
But people also think Juubito beats Toneri, and could give SPSM Naruto a good fight. Do we scale them like that? Nope. Opinions on versus threads have no effect on character ratings.
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Also...they were talking about Sasuke without a complete / armoured Susano'o, I think.
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Naruto knows Sharingan and its features.
Naruto has:
Higher ap, sensing and reaction beyond anything that Sasuke could offer, stamina/chakra vastly above Sasuke's, tougher skin and added durability against piercing/cutting attacks, Frog Kata makes Sharigan's precog useless, durability ignoring with RS (if touch Sasuke finished for real) and Frog Strike.
With every MS use, Sasuke becomes blinder, Susano'o give him pain with every use and he can't spam them. His mobility inside Susano'o is limited at best, so easy picking for Naruto's RS.
Maybe that match removed because it's stomp.
Do you know the chapter that statement made?
Naruto has:
Higher ap, sensing and reaction beyond anything that Sasuke could offer, stamina/chakra vastly above Sasuke's, tougher skin and added durability against piercing/cutting attacks, Frog Kata makes Sharigan's precog useless, durability ignoring with RS (if touch Sasuke finished for real) and Frog Strike.
With every MS use, Sasuke becomes blinder, Susano'o give him pain with every use and he can't spam them. His mobility inside Susano'o is limited at best, so easy picking for Naruto's RS.
Maybe that match removed because it's stomp.
Do you know the chapter that statement made?
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I am not talking about who you believe wins... It's just like people believe SPSM Naruto beats Rinnegan Sasuke with little difficulty. Okay, they can believe what they want, but it's clear that that's not how Kishi sees it in canon. The ratings are determined by what we're told or shown in canon, not what we personally believe.
Naruto essentially tells us that he and Sasuke would die if they fight each other, and that he needs KCM to beat him. If you think otherwise in a thread (I do think Naruto wins too), that's fine. But their tiers don't depend on personal opinions.
I checked it last week, but I've forgotten. Though I know where to see the scans for Naruto's statements.
Naruto essentially tells us that he and Sasuke would die if they fight each other, and that he needs KCM to beat him. If you think otherwise in a thread (I do think Naruto wins too), that's fine. But their tiers don't depend on personal opinions.
I checked it last week, but I've forgotten. Though I know where to see the scans for Naruto's statements.
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I stated facts to you.
Tiers and stats determined by the feats firstly and most importantly.
Kishi stated through characters mouth that
Byakugo(?) Sakura=EMS Sasuke=BM maybe KCM Naruto, Sakura harmed Kaguya for the plot purposes this means we take these two seriously without looking PIS/CIS and author's true intent?
Also, this makes Blind(MS) Sasuke=KCM Naruto then?
i'm busy right now so i reply hours later.
Tiers and stats determined by the feats firstly and most importantly.
Kishi stated through characters mouth that
Byakugo(?) Sakura=EMS Sasuke=BM maybe KCM Naruto, Sakura harmed Kaguya for the plot purposes this means we take these two seriously without looking PIS/CIS and author's true intent?
Also, this makes Blind(MS) Sasuke=KCM Naruto then?
i'm busy right now so i reply hours later.
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Let's not make a shitstorm here about that.
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Facts based on your personal opinion on how a fight would play out, not what we're told in canon.
Cool, but nothing contradicts it once again.
How do you figure that MS Sasuke = KCM Naruto. Where's that from?
Cool, but nothing contradicts it once again.
How do you figure that MS Sasuke = KCM Naruto. Where's that from?
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I dont get the point o fthis argument. Their direct abilities has nothing to do with their AP anyway. Maybe Sasuke would get wiped by SM Naruto. But it does not mean that Sasukes' AP is < Naruto it just means Naruto has the better skillset.
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Exactly. Thank you. Even if Naruto has better AP than Sasuke, he tells us that they would die against each other, and that he needs KCM to be sure of victory against Sasuke. That means Sasuke should scale.
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Man if MS sasuke gonna scale than so will Danzo. i dont have a problem with it but just dont want you guys to forget.
Also omg that first banner is awesome where did you find it
Also omg that first banner is awesome where did you find it
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Danzo would not scale Sasuke's Susanoo was quite clearly above Danzo's level of power.
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We're talking about Complete Susano'o.
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Danzou damaged Susano'o with a combination attack with his summon anyway.
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then shouldnt it be his summon that scales
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Lightning armor Ay should be higher, he was about go and personally deal with kinkaku and Ginkaku
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@Astral
It was a combined attack, so neither should scale.
It was a combined attack, so neither should scale.
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this right here should have been in the manga tbh lol. Naruto even used sasuke's sword. I wonder if that could have gotten calced as a speed featAlexSoloVaAlFuturo said:
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BM or KCM?
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I'm sure it was KCM. BM tanked the Bijuudama laser.
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Link to where it happened?
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dude no lol i believe that was when minato was touching narutos chakra cloak and naruto shared it with everyone so minato teleported them all since they were connected outside of the barrier
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It was KCM Naruto...
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If Pain and the rest are top tiers, what would BM Naruto, Minato, Prime Kurama, Hashirama, etc be?
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Wut you talking about? Pain and the rest are high tier only. The verse page says:
"As of the end of series, the verse boasts of high tiers such as Kage level Shinobi and Biju who range from City level all the way up to Small Country level, top tiers who range from Country level to Multi-Continent level, and god tiers who are Multi-Continent to Moon level that peak at Small Planet level physically and up to Large Planet level with Certain Jutsu."
"As of the end of series, the verse boasts of high tiers such as Kage level Shinobi and Biju who range from City level all the way up to Small Country level, top tiers who range from Country level to Multi-Continent level, and god tiers who are Multi-Continent to Moon level that peak at Small Planet level physically and up to Large Planet level with Certain Jutsu."
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High-top?
God-top?
I dont know lol.
I think Pain and the others are more like High mid tiers lol.
God-top?
I dont know lol.
I think Pain and the others are more like High mid tiers lol.
