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Naruto vs Sasuke

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I just assumed that by the time Naruto got rasenshuriken he became comparable to Hebi Sasuke

I could just use another version of them if this is too stompish
 
I mean Naruto was exhausted from being in Version 2 and fighting Orochimaru

But I changed to Sage Mode vs Taka
 
sm FRS>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kirin

also wind >lighting

genjutsu via ma and pa

naruto win mid dif

sm naruto taijutsu>>>>taka/ms sasuke taijutsu
 
Nothing's even special about Kirin here though? It's City level. Both are City level+. Also, Rasenshuriken is more dangerous and has better firepower. Only problem is Amaterasu countering it. Rasenshuriken Barrage could bypass it. Continuous Amaterasu spam is not viable for even EMS Sasuke. I'm assuming this is War Arc Naruto. He can enter Sage Mode fast or have his clones do it, while Sasuke goes blind.

Naruto already knows how Sharingan Genjutsu works though? He doesn't need his eyes to fight when he has senjutsu. Just like Kabuto. And War Arc Naruto already has Kurama's cooperation. Though if we're talking about genjutsu, does Sasuke have a counter for Frog Song and Duet?

Amaterasu can be dodged. Sasuke might be have faster movements, but Naruto has better reactions.

Let's not use skill as an argument. Naruto has proven time and again that he can bypass such a disadvantage.
 
out of context , Frog song duet surpasses even IT as a genjutsu,lol considering it works on rinnegan users
 
Sasuke can counter their illusions like nothing as he already countered Tsukuyomi with simple 3 tomoe Sharingan.Also,unlike rinnegan,sharingan can see through illusions,rinnegan is just immun to genjutsus that need eye contact.
 
As i already mentioned,Rinnegan is immune to any genjutsu that needs an eye contact,frog song doesnt need eyes and unlike sharingan,rinnegan cant see through illusions.
 
Technically, Frog Song is not the genjutsu. That's Frog Duet.

Also, Obito said Sasuke was under the influence of Itachi's genjutsu for the whole battle, and didn't actually break out of any of them.
 
Don't remember Sasuke protesting in a confident manner, but whatever. I believe Obito, but it probably doesn't matter here, so no need to continue.
 
@Dz

When did Sasuke counter Tsukuyomi? Wasn't Itachi going easy on him the whole time along with being sick?
 
What Obito said means nothing honestly,Obito could lie without hesitating.Even Itachi was shocked when Sasuke did that.Itachi's words>Obito's.
 
Sasuke gets roflstomped.

Since this is Taka Sasuke he doesn't have much experience with his MS like he did in the fight with Bee I presume.

Sasuke got bodied numerous times by Killer B and would've died a long time ago if Jugo Karin and Suigetsu weren't there to save him (especially when B turned into Gyuki).

Naruto fought half of Kurama (as strong if not stronger than multiple Tailed Beasts put together) and put Kurama on the ground with Rasengan Barrage and even forced him down completely with Rasenshuriken. The "well that was a later Naruto" thing hardly matters considering Naruto went from Pain to running to the Five Kage Summit to fighting Sasuke (without SM) to Turtle Island, so there's practically no growth there. Even stronger or not, it would only be marginal and still scales to Pain Naruto (I assume this is Pain since you have the cloak in the picture).

(Naruto did in fact try to train Sage Mode in the Land of Iron but didn't get the chance due to Sakura, so there's that). Even then Zetsu agrees that Naruto is stronger.

Suigetsu: "This Naruto defeated Pain all alone?"

Zetsu: "That's right. He's gotten really strong... He's probably stronger than Sasuke now."

Naruto also has a lot of summons to help him although I highly doubt he needs them to win. So my vote goes to Naruto.
 
And for the Tsukuyomi part, Itachi was literally holding back the entire fight. We even see him use Tsukuyomi to a much higher degree in the Itachi (Since this wiki uses the Sakura Novel, I assume no one questions how canon the others are). Three-Tomoe Sharingan is not breaking out of Tsukuyomi, which was so powerful KCM 1 Naruto was convinced that if he hit Bee, a Perfect Jinchuriki with it, he wouldn't be able to break out of it (and yes, B has told Naruto PJs can break out of Genjutsu, and he broke out of one of Itachi's low-level Genjutsu before this).
 
I dont understand why people deny that Sasuke counters Tsukuyomi and uses powerful genjutsu himself,when he literally has the feat.Even Danzo with his multiple sharingans got hit by his genjutsu.

Sasuke can keep up with Raikage who is faster and stronger then SM Naruto.Speed is unequal.

Amaterasu takes a lot of energy but he still was somehow able to use it against Raikage than against Danzo.His stamina isnt very low.
 
The Fourth Raikage is neither strong or superior in speed to SM Naruto.

He about got oneshotted by Base Killer Bee and got outsped by full-out KCM 1 while SM Naruto (again, little to no training) was able to dodged and react to the Third Raikage as a clone. Despite the clone not being as strong as A, his Rasengan was enough to send the force of his Hell Stab back, meaning even a clone of SM naruto would be comparable or superior to the Fourth depending on how you see it. Kurama > Base B > Fourth.

No one is denying Sasuke's Genjutsu skills, but the Tsukuyomi he broke was literally made to let him break it.

Taka Sasuke =/= Five Kage Summit Sasuke. While the time placement isn't too far off Sasuke was not as skilled with it as he was in the Five Kage Summit considering he couldn't manifest a Susanoo or use Kagutsuchi against B.
 
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