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Naruto Base Absorbed Theory

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So some people think that Naruto and Sasuke have lost their six paths chakra, that hagoromo gave them, which lead them to the belief that the adult versions of these two characters are weaker than the ones that fought Kaguya. Here is a theory that explains how their adult states are able to fight a threat greater than Kaguya, even while weakened. Firstly people think that once they lost the seals they became a lot weaker and went downhill from there. This in fact is not true and here is why. If that was the case they would have been notably weaker in their final fight. Sasuke's own chakra would not be able to support such a powerful rinnegan, and Naruto would only have the Bijuu's chakra not the rest of the sage power. Therefore their AP would have dropped, along with speed and resceptive capabilities. This is clearly not the case in the fight, as a matter of fact after they lost the seals, Sasuke showed better mastry of the Rinnegan than before, when he instantaneously put the bijuu under genjutsu, then put them each in a chibaku tensei. Here is where my theory comes in, they absorbed the six paths chakra into their base forms. This explains why a weakened base Naruto can swap hands with Momoshiki, and why base Sasuke's managment of the rinnegan improved so massively. The mode Naruto enters is a result of him adding tailed beast chakra into the mix, making him significantly stronger. Sasuke's six paths chakra acts as the tomoe in his rinnegan when he is low on six paths chakra the tomoe go away, and when Naruto goes low on both chakras, like when he fought toneri, he goes into an inferior form.
 
@Mobzzzzz5

Again, no. Momoshiki was a threat because of his ability to absorb chakra-based techniques, not because of raw power. Once that ability was disabled, he went down like a chump to a Naruto's Odama Rasengan who didn't have his Six Paths Chakra (as evidenced by Naruto's lack of TSBs).
 
One does notsimply sprout more TSB's at will once all of his got destroyed it was over, he isn't going to recreate more and if not please explain his eye markings. Also he cannpt be a great threat due to that ability as both Naruto and Sasuke are great at taijutsu, and so is Kaguya, so that does not add up either.
 
@Repp:

TSB is not the definite factor for it, though it is one of the most notable parts of the form.

The most defining part of it is the lack of eyeshadow on Bijuu Sage mode eyes.

Iirc.

@Mobz:

Kaguya scks at taijutsu. Momo's far better than her at that, though he lacks her raw firepower,which he makes up for with absorption powers.
 
@Mobzzzzz5

Momoshiki's feats simply don't add up. Hell, his chakra absorbing feat was easily overpowered by Naruto and Boruto in the new manga canon even though Kaguya wasn't even phased by any of their chakra attacks prior. Momoshiki is not that powerful.

He may have had the eye markings, but he hasn't shown any of the powers of Six Path Sage Mode other than manifesting Kurama as armor. Feats > Headcanon.
 
So you are saying that Naruto after losing so much power and then having chakra absorbed from him, can figbht a guy that kaguya was cautious about?
 
@Mobzzzz5

As we've stated numerous times before, we don't exactly know why she was so cautious of him, because he was certainly weaker than her feat wise, as Naruto's one good attack was able to take him out when Naruto AND Sasuke AND Kakashi were needed to take Kaguya out.

It is far more likely that she was wary of his Chakra absorbing ability due to her reliance on chakra-based techniques.
 
@ Reppuza

Again, no. Momoshiki was a threat because of his ability to absorb chakra-based techniques


in absorption

by feats kaguya> Momoshiki

+Momoshik stronger then 1 rinnagan jj madara

@Mobzzzzz5

all of his got destroyed


no he still had 3 of them
 
Kaguya had to have Naruto, Sasuke and Kakashi (and Sakura) to beat her, and even then, it was only through sealing did they finish her. She was however unstabilized by Naruto's super bijuudama Rasenshuriken combo.

Momo got matched by base post-Six Paths Naruto, and then proceeded to get beaten back by Naruto and Sasuke, then got murked by Naruto's Oodama Rasengan.

You can turn it around however you want but the bottomline will still be:

+ Momoshiki is the superior close-combat fighter due to actual technique and better fighting instincts to Kaguya

+ Momoshiki hardcounters Kaguya with jutsu absorption and his own dimension-hopping techniques

+ Kaguya fodderizes him in straight up raw power

Beyond the hype Momo has of Kaguya fearing for this coming visitor (which we aren't even sure it's actually Momo or someone else, or even an entire team, army or race coming), he's pretty much unimpressive in comparison to NaruSasu. There's also the possibility of Kaguya overstimating, but that's another ballgame entirely.
 
I don't even understand why Kaguya was afraid. She can just as easily absorb any of Momoshiki's attacks and her Regenerationn takes care of anything he can do. Unless he can turn her into a chakra pill?

Wait, what's the purpose of this thread?
 
Think about the mastry boost they got Sasuke after 2 fights, already started mastering the rinnegan much better imagine 16 years later, and Naruto as well
 
@Burning

Trying to upgrade everyone to Planet level based on the hype around Kaguya being wary of Momoshiki despite his much lower feats.
 
Okay, I don't believe they have gotten weaker either. Antvasima even said we should create a profile for Adult Naruto because he's likely stronger than his teenage version (except that Low 5-B version). He just lost some versatility and hax, is all.
 
Adult Naruto is neither likely stronger nor likely weaker. We have no concrete evidence, and the best one we got at the moment is Naruto punching a mooncutter. What we can do is "possibly", but we don't know if he's actually stronger or weaker since when he first got his Six Paths mode.

So, best we can go about this is to keep is teenage stats, Moon+ and that's it. The whole Likely Small Planet stats came from him and Sasuke being really, really close to the boundary between Moon+ and Small Planet in their Six Paths forms (because Six Paths Chibaku Tensei), then Naruto juiced up on all the world's natural energy.

Momo is as about as vague as Prime Hiruzen in that we know what he can do, we know what his hype says, but they contradict each other so why bother? He scales from Naruto and Sasuke and that's it.
 
What IS his full power? This? It's his strongest form.

Naruto six paths mode in the manga
While he wasn't at full capacity, he was likely fightng at full strength, the same way a car can run at top speed without a full fuel tank.
 
Are people forgetting that Kaguya was afraid of Momoshiki, BEFORE she went to Earth and ate the Chakra Fruit. She still fear him afterwards of course, she didn't know his full potential or the one she gained.
 
@AppleLord

That still doesn't change the fact that a single solid hit from Naruto took Momoshiki out while Naruto and Sasuke needed chibaku Tensei to seal Kaguya. The power discrepancy is massive.
 
Reppuzan said:
@AppleLord
That still doesn't change the fact that a single solid hit from Naruto took Momoshiki out while Naruto and Sasuke needed chibaku Tensei to seal Kaguya. The power discrepancy is massive.
I didn't disagree. All I said was ...

Kaguya Rinne Sharingan (God Tree) > Merged Momoshiki >Base Momoshiki > Base Kaguya
 
I wouldn't worry about power scaling at all. Is already all over the place, we have jumps from 4-B to 3-A, 4-C to 3-A or 10-B to 4-B The power discrepancy is massive with 0 feats just statements and power scaling. Oh, well. I don't agree with the upgrade either.
 
Omimi said:
@Mobzzzzz5

all of his got destroyed


no he still had 3 of them
No those three were put in to his final attack, because those 3 did not show after that and it would be easier to expand 3 TSBs into one mass than to expand one into a huge rasenshuriken, and that was planned to be the final attack, so it would make sense for him to give it his all
 
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