Naruto Ability Additions

[Kepekley23]

KCM Naruto doing it is an outlier

Minato's feat isn't, though, since only the god-tiers scale to it

 

[Kepekley23]

I'll have to take a look at the Mach 2700 calc, though.

 

[Rocker1189]

I'll have to take a look at the Mach 2700 calc, though.

I posted it directly to you.

 

[Rocker1189]

Light speed Naruto is in reach O_O

 

[Omimi]

sad cuz its outlier

 

[Rocker1189]

We cant be sure yet xD. We already have relavistic speed attacks in The Last. Speaking of which there was a time where Onoki caught up with a meteor falling from the moon and then blew it up using Jinton.

 

[Kepekley23]

The Minato feat isn't an outlier, KCM Naruto is though

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Well a lot of naruto characters are fast as **** boi now

Kep what do u think about A strenght downgrade i posted Details above

 

[Omimi]

om looking at random pages anyway.
Technically, even Sage Mode would count as a sixth sense.

do we have sixth sense in vswiki

 

[Frantzy12]

Hmm looks like Naruto is slowly being pushed towards LS.

 

[Kepekley23]

@Shrek

I mean, who would we scale him from, though?

 

[Omimi]

still faaaaar from LS Lol

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Kep

Either we put him at atleast town level and we can make a key for Onoki enchanced A(which would solve Minato and Obitos likely 7-B rating)

Or we can try scaling him to his dad

thats about it

I am more in favor of the first one

 

[Rocker1189]

Err wasnt he gogin to go through that light speed transportation thing that evenn Tsunade was said to find it a hard time to use?

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Its cause of his kekkai genkai structure of the skin that he could pass through it not durability

 

[Rocker1189]

Nvm it was the third raikage who could use it easily however he did not need to heal while tsunade needed her hundred seals.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Already said its cause of the structure of the skin being similar to his dads

 

[Kepekley23]

I am inclined to agree.

 

[Rocker1189]

That does not make any sense. It does mean that his durability is higher than hers.

 

[Rocker1189]

It had nothing to do with specific skin structure whhat they are describing is just his strength and absurd durability.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

No?

as that would mean Base A has higher durability than Lightning armor A

 

[Rocker1189]

Then they even say the 4th can not handle it and she definitely would not be able to do so either. Then she ends up using her seal to do it and he just straight up uses it anyway.

 

[Rocker1189]

No?
as that would mean Base A has higher durability than Lightning armor A

No it would not, where is that coming from... Also turns out that she did not use the seal anyway.

 

[Rocker1189]

Basically I dont think he needs a downgrade as his base is obviously just as durable as Tsunade and I assume that means his AP would be the same.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Here found the statement about Why A could survive it

 

[Kepekley23]

People in the Naruto calc are legit using the Databook fallacy again. Herp.

 

[Rocker1189]

Well yes, but that is basically saying the same thing as above nothing is mentioned about a kekkei genkai. Just that he has a tough-physique one that can withstand being torn apart just liek Tsunade could and so can the Fourth. If it was really about a kekkeri genkai tsunade straight up would have not been allowed to use it.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

It literally says he could surive cause of his blood being same as His dads

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Minato can hurt Lightning armor A

Tsunade is stronger than Minato

If A was Equal to base tsunade it would mean

Base minato is >>>Base tsunade

Which means Tobi who survived his rasengan gets the same

Yet konan who was equal in jutsu clash with Jiraiya and forced Obito to defend against her general Paper attacks

Meaning Jiraiya >>> Base tsunade even tho she one shot him while both were in base

 

[Rocker1189]

I mean yeah Jiraya is >>> Tsunade just not in strength. I am pretty sure Jiraya was known as the strongest of the 3 sannin while Tsuande was probably the strongest physically. If she had fought either Pain, Konan or Obito I am sure she would have been destroyed. And Minato would also have destroyed her Rasengan is OP.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

No?

Jiraiya is weakest of the 3 sannin both physically and combat wise

Obito Nagato yes

Konan are u for real?

lets stop derailing

Anyway Kep do we apply the First Reasoning or second reasoning for Lightning armor A

 

[Kepekley23]

I agree with a downgrade for A, and him only being 7-B via Onoki's enhancement in the 5 kage fight.

 

[Rocker1189]

Jiraiya had Sage mode that alone is enough to beat Tsunade then he has Rasengan on top of that.

Konan yes for sure. Tsunade literally can not touch her. while Konan has multiple attacks and paper bomb from all sides. But just to say I am talking about Base Tsunade here. Personally I would say the second reasoning considering the scans above. Especially your one where they say A can probably go through it.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Kep

I will apply the changes then

@Rocker

If base tsunade yes

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Characters that would scale from Minato feat

Juubidara 1 rinnegan and above,8 gates guy,Strongest naruto and sasuke,Kaguya,Momoshiki,Hagoromo,Hamura

That all?

2750+ A feat

(5 kages,Kcm and above naruto,Hashi,Tobirama,Kcm Minato,Madara,Rinnegan and above obito,War kakashi,7 gates guy,V2 Jinchuriki,Third Raikage,Muu,Gengetsu,Edo nagato,Samehada fused Kisame,Indra,Ashura)

Did i miss anyone?

 

[Omimi]

Not sure how Version 1 cloak is a forcefield.

 

[Mindovin]

@ShrekAlmighty

Minato attacking A with his wind enhanced kunai as we know lightning has weak to the wind naturally in Narutoverse. Tsunade's has monstrous physical strength and she increasing her strength with chakra.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Sooo, do you guys think the Version 1 cloak is a forcefield?

It seems that the normal cloak isn't a forcefield, but Naruto can expand it to make it look like one...I think.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Yea it does look like a forcefield to me so i agree with adding it

 

[Dzhindzholia]

I dont understand why People think that KCM Naruto dodging Raikage's punch is an outlier,it just means that KCM Naruto is faster than Raikage,so is Minato.