Nanatsu No Taizai Revisions

[PaChi2]

I dont have time to do a proper revision of the characters, however, I will try to summarize the updates:

King: A new key with: After Gloxinia's training. High 7-A, possibly higher (with a base powerlevel of 41k he is equal to Galan using his most powerful attack). Stamina (previous keys): Low stamina using Chastiefol (using the Lance's full power drains his stamina very quickly). Stamina (new key): Much bigger stamina using Chastiefol.

Diane: a new Key with: After Dolor's training. At least 7-B, likely higher (she can easily rise her magic up to 15k and stated she could grow stronger). Also: Stats amplification via dancing.

Gowther: To his weakness (previous keys): he cannot bear the psychological trauma he suffered in the past and remembering it makes him lose control. | New Key: After accepting his memories: Likely High 7-A (Comparable to prime Dolor and Gloxinia in the past).

Merlin: Likely 6-C (Can take a serious attack from Zeldoris).

Escanor: Magic glasses.

Derrier and Monspeet: New Key: Indura form: at least 6-C (vastly superior to the three of the Four Archangels individually, who are in turn much stronger than their previous form and are comparable to top tier TC such as Estarossa or Zeldris). Weakness to that form: Sacrificing 6 hearts makes them (technically) easier to kill, once their life force runs out, they die. Intelligence in this form: becomes a bloodlusted berserk.

Then we'd need to specify the powers each indura form grants to each of them.

Zeldris: Power Nullification (can seal other's magic).


Dolor: Power Nullification (can seal other's magic) and Stats amplification via dancing.

As of now, this is all. Sorry for not linking the feats. Will do it later if the community thinks its neccessary.

Hope this is reasonable.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Agreed with king, disagree with diane, when was it said she was comparable to king? Only said she has a power level of 15k which would make her city level for being above full form chastefiel king who is city level.

Otherwise ok i guess, would probably hold of for now on merlin thogh.

 

[PaChi2]

Well, they were comparable prior to the training, I assumed that they still are. Nothing else. That's the reason for the "Likely"

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I'm not up-to-date with NNT, but why is Gowther getting a weakness to Memory Manipulation? Doesn't that apply to anyone who doesn't have resistance to it?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

@PaChi2 Well there is no proof, so i would put her at "At least City level" for being superior to True Spirit Spear Chastiefol which had a power level of 12k from what i remember.

 

[PaChi2]

I'm not up-to-date with NNT, but why is Gowther getting a weakness to Memory Manipulation? Doesn't that apply to anyone who doesn't have resistance to it?

Even the thought of remembering his lost memories is enough to drive him insane.

 

[PaChi2]

@PaChi2 Well there is no proof, so i would put her at "At least City level" for being superior to True Spirit Spear Chastiefol which had a power level of 12k from what i remember.

At least City level, likely higher? I mean, she was casual. And she did reach higher than 12K

Also, about Merlin, I think it is safe to upgrade her since she can stomp other Ten Commandments, but we know Zeldoris is a top tier in there.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

"At least City level, likely higher" works for diane.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

@PaChi

Well, wouldn't what you suggested after the Memory Manipulation thing cover that?

Anyway, I'm fine with the changes and what Celestial said. But isn't Merlin already 6-C?

 

[PaChi2]

@PaChi

Well, wouldn't what you suggested after the Memory Manipulation thing cover that?

Anyway, I'm fine with the changes and what Celestial said. But isn't Merlin already 6-C?

Merlin's juustification for the 6-C rating is speculation. This time she has a feat of resisting an attack from Zeldris.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

So, would it be 'At least High 7-A, possibly 6-C?

 

[PaChi2]

I think that seems reasonable.

 

[OishiLover75]

Would Magic Glasses be with Merlin or Escanor?

 

[PaChi2]

Escanor, I guess. he is the one using them.

 

[HalfAsianFan]

Wouldn't Gowther being highly resistant to very large amounts of his own magic (not being able to forget his memories from the heart) actually mean he has a resistance rather than weakness to mind manip? He even used it way more on himself than anyone else, and stated that he tried several times, but he still couldn't alter his memories.

 

[Antvasima]

I am fine with these changes.

As for Diane, remember that she was shrunk down to human size at the time. She should have a much higher power level at her full size.

 

[PaChi2]

I am fine with these changes.

As for Diane, remember that she was shrunk down to human size at the time. She should have a much higher power level at her full size.

Yeah, I know that she should be stronger, but is there a statement saying by how much shrinking cuts her power? That's why we put "Likely higher", she is probably comparable to King at full power, but we dont have enough proof to justify that. Also, remember this is Base Diane, no Gideon.

 

[PaChi2]

Wouldn't Gowther being highly resistant to very large amounts of his own magic (not being able to forget his memories from the heart) actually mean he has a resistance rather than weakness to mind manip? He even used it way more on himself than anyone else, and stated that he tried several times, but he still couldn't alter his memories.

He is resistant to having his memories wiped out, yes, but if for some reason a mind manipulator made those memories come back (this is before he accepted them), Gowther would be left unable to fight due to the trauma (he'd behave just like we saw him). That's why it'd be a weakness, in my opinion.

But if people think that shoudlnt be the case, Im okay, I guess.

Also, Im not experienced in editing profiles, I'd appreciate if anyone more skilled could make the changes (thank you in advance).

 

[Antvasima]

I agree that we should wait with Diane until we get more proof.

 

[PaChi2]

Also, addition to Diane: Stats amplification via dancing.

Addition to Dolor (not sure if he already has it): Power Nullification (can seal other's magic) and Stats amplification via dancing.

Also, forgive me, but not sure if Zeldris has Power Nullification (can seal other's magic).

And, in King's stamina (previous keys): Low stamina using Chastiferol (using the Lance's full power drains his stamina very quickly).

 

[Antvasima]

That seems fine to me.

 

[PaChi2]

@Ant

Do you think there should be a profile for "Real" Gowther? or just another Key for current Gowther? (In this case he'd be At least 6-C for being able to hold off Zeldris, and some other haxes, I guess).

 

[JBennett]

Another one, simplybecause Gowther(doll) and Gowther(demon) are different characters.

Also the weakness for Gother wouldn't be a problem now since it only became a problem when he lacked his 'heart' now that he has his heart again it wouldn't be a problem.Also it wasn't that he was weaktoit just that he was scared to remember it. however like I said it won't matter now that he has his heart back.

 

[PaChi2]

That's why I put (previous keys), if someone were to use previous versions of Gowther.

 

[Antvasima]

I am uncertain whether we should use two keys, or two profiles, named "Gowther (Doll)" and "Gowther (Demon)", or somesuch.

 

[JBennett]

two profiles, Gowther(demon) may be able to live through Gowther(doll) but Gowther(doll) can't with Gowther(demon).

Add that it was Gowther(demon) that created Gowther (doll) having them at the same profile woulnd't be accurate.

 

[Antvasima]

That is true.

 

[PaChi2]

bump, do we agree then to the proposed changes? It seems yes except for Gowther's weakness? Can we then edit the profiles skipping that part?

Also, small thing, would it be correct to change current Gowther's profile name to Gowther(doll), in case a Gowther(demon) profile is created later on (which I plan on doing)?

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

For Escanor, where would the Magic Glasses be on his profile? Standard equipment?

Did Merlin take the attack from Zeldris physically or with her barriers?

 

[PaChi2]

@Burning

About Escanor: yes, standard equipment.

About Merlin: she transferred to herself all the damage a minion of hers would have taken from Zeldris' attack, so I'd say she took it directly.

Serious Zeldris:

http://www.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/219/20

Attack:

http://www.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/219/21

Minion unscathed:

http://www.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/219/22

Merlin after the attack:

http://www.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/219/23

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Okay, I want to try and adjust some of them. Should King's durability be High 7-A too?

 

[GalaxianAegis]

As for Diane, she couldn't use her full power since she is also unable to use her Sacred Treasure in that state so she's certainly stronger at full height.


I would also like to bring up that Derieri and Monspeet need another section on their profiles for their Indura forms that they showed in the flashback as they are massively stronger than their base forms.

 

[Antvasima]

I will change the title of Gowther's profile to "Gowther (Doll)".

 

[PaChi2]

Let me edit the OP to include the indura, tell me if you agree with my proposed upgrades.

 

[GalaxianAegis]

Indura edit looks good, and I can provide scans for feats there of needed.

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that seems reasonable, but it is best to wait for more input.

 

[Antvasima]

Hmm. Still no further input...

 

[PaChi2]

Nanatsu no taizai doesnt have a large group of followers in this wiki... its a pity, to be honest. I wish we could set this.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I think that it should be fine if you perform the edits.

 

[PaChi2]

Including Gowther's weakness? It seemed to be rather controversial.