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Nanatsu No Taizai downgrades

LIFE_OF_KING

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Right, many feats have been recalculated to low results (You can see everything here). This obviously changes the Tier of the NNT characters

Also, there is a problem with Gilthunder's Tier, he is considered to be a being who has created a storm his profile. But this is false, the manga says he only create a thundercloud, not a full storm with a 20 kilometer radius.
So whats Gilthunder tier? He will now be High 7-C, for being able to damage characters like Diane (He is weaker than Diane, but this proves that they are comparable).

Basically
Characters with High 7-C to Low 7-B will now be 8-B
Characters with 7-B will now be High 7-C
Characters with 6-C will now be 7-A+
Characters with High 6-C will now be 6-C (Via powerscale with High 7-A+ feat)
 
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LIFE_OF_KING said:
Characters with 7-B will now be High 7-C
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This is fine.
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Characters with 6-C will now be 7-A+
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I assume you meant High 7-A+, which is fine. It should be noted that Post-Revival Meliodas with 60k combat class would scale 3x above this calc since he can damage Derieri, who takes no damage from her attack being full countered. Estarossa (60k) and Zeldris (61k) would scale to 6-C as well.
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Characters with High 6-C will now be 6-C (Via powerscale with High 7-A+ feat)
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Not all High 6-Cs should be downgraded. Tarmiel already has an accepted calculation for his grace. Any characters currently scaling should remain unchanged.
 
High 7-C (424.97 Kilotons): Meliodas (Sealed), Diane (Gideon), Ban (Pre-Purgatory), King (Base), Hendrickson, Dreyfus, Gilthunder, Howzer, Arthur, Albion

7-A+ (652.35 Megatons): Drole, Gloxinia, Derieri (Base), Monspeet (Base), King (After Gloxinia's Training), Diane (Drole's Dance)

High 7-A+ (3.29 Gigatons): Meliodas (Unsealed Demon Mark), Derieri (Combo Star)

6-C (4.3 Gigatons): Zeldris, Estarossa, Escanor (Mid/Late Morning), Meliodas (Post Revival), Tarmiel, Sariel

6-C (12.6 Gigatons): Meliodas (Post Revival Assault Mode), Ludociel (Possessing Margaret), Chandler (True Form), Cusack (True Form)

6-C (25.2 Gigatons): Original Demon, Ludociel (True Body), Derieri (Indura), Monspeet (Indura), Chimera Indura
 
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Would Gray Demon Blood Hendrickson be High 7-C+ via upscaling since his justification on his profile say that he “defeated Pre-Training King and Diane with a single Dark Nebula”.
 
Upscaling Hendrickson to High 7-C+ isn't necessary. He scales above Unsealed Demon Mark Meliodas, who stomps Ban, who stole all of his base strength and added it to his own.

High 7-C (424.97 Kilotons): Meliodas (Sealed), Diane (Gideon), Ban (Pre-Purgatory), King (Base), Hendrickson, Dreyfus, Gilthunder, Howzer, Arthur

High 7-C+ (849.94 Kilotons): Meliodas (Sealed Demon Mark), Hendrickson (Gray Demon Blood), Albion, Meliodas (Lostvayne), Matrona, Diane (After Drole's Training), Meliodas (Sealed Wrath)

7-A+ (652.35 Megatons): Drole, Gloxinia, Derieri (Base), Monspeet (Base), King (After Gloxinia's Training), Diane (Drole's Dance)

High 7-A+ (3.29 Gigatons): Meliodas (Unsealed Demon Mark), Derieri (Combo Star)

6-C (4.3 Gigatons): Zeldris, Estarossa, Escanor (Mid/Late Morning), Meliodas (Post Revival), Tarmiel, Sariel

6-C (12.6 Gigatons): Meliodas (Post Revival Assault Mode), Ludociel (Possessing Margaret), Chandler (True Form), Cusack (True Form)

6-C (25.2 Gigatons): Original Demon, Ludociel (True Body), Derieri (Indura), Monspeet (Indura), Chimera Indura
 
Steve_Rogers1 said:
Upscaling Hendrickson to High 7-C+ isn't necessary. He scales above Unsealed Demon Mark Meliodas, who stomps Ban, who stole all of his base strength and added it to his own.

High 7-C (424.97 Kilotons): Meliodas (Sealed), Diane (Gideon), Ban (Pre-Purgatory), King (Base), Hendrickson, Dreyfus, Gilthunder, Howzer, Arthur

High 7-C+ (849.94 Kilotons): Meliodas (Sealed Demon Mark), Hendrickson (Gray Demon Blood), Albion, Meliodas (Lostvayne), Matrona, Diane (After Drole's Training), Meliodas (Sealed Wrath)
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But since Hendrickson is scales far above since his justification also includes “Even Sealed Demon Mark Meliodas considered Revenge Counter the only possible way to defeat him“. And Baseline Low 7-B is not that far away from 849.94 Kilotons, Gray Blood Hendrickson should be around Baseline Low 7-B
 
I agree with the Gilthunder downgrade. There's actually an aerial shot that shows his storms are probably large thunder clouds.

Edit: The scans.

For Galand, would he be Large Mountain level via downscaling? Imo, he's probably in a closer league to the other 10Cs than he is someone like Hendrickson or Albion, which is supported by the manga.
 
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ByAsura said:
I agree with the Gilthunder downgrade. There's actually an aerial shot that shows his storms are probably large thunder clouds (I'll get that scan later).

For Galand, would he be Large Mountain level via downscaling? Imo, he's probably in a closer league to the other 10Cs than he is someone like Hendrickson or Albion, which is supported by the manga.
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He could be downgraded to Baseline High 7-A+ (2.65GT) I guess for his justification on his profile being ‘Should not be overwhelmingly weaker than other Commandments who are below Unsealed Demon Mark Meliodas’
 
The difference is pretty big, tbf. His strongest form was almost one-shot by someone with a lower PL than Drole.

By the way, I think a recalculation of this could go somewhere.

Edit: I tried, and I don't think it will. The heights and directions are way too inconsistent for it to yield anything.
 
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Drole was defeated somewhat easily, but he should partially scale to Demon Meliodas. He could make him bleed, and the Giga Fall was centred around Meliodas himself.
 
KobsterHope07 said:
But since Hendrickson is scales far above since his justification also includes “Even Sealed Demon Mark Meliodas considered Revenge Counter the only possible way to defeat him“. And Baseline Low 7-B is not that far away from 849.94 Kilotons, Gray Blood Hendrickson should be around Baseline Low 7-B
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You could make a case for Unsealed Demon Mark Meliodas being Low 7-B since he one shotted Ban, who was High 7-C+ at the time. Gray Demon Hendrickson would upscale from there.
 
High 7-C (424.97 Kilotons): Meliodas (Sealed), Diane (Gideon), Ban (Pre-Purgatory), King (Base), Hendrickson, Dreyfus, Gilthunder, Howzer, Arthur

Low 7-B (1 Megaton): Meliodas (Sealed Demon Mark)

At least Low 7-B (1 Megaton): Hendrickson (Gray Demon Blood), Albion, Meliodas (Lostvayne), Matrona, Diane (After Drole's Training), Meliodas (Sealed Wrath), Galand, Meliodas (Unsealed)

7-A (652.35 Megatons): Gloxinia, Derieri (Base), Monspeet (Base), King (After Gloxinia's Training)

At least 7-A (652.35 Megatons), likely High 7-A (3.29 Gigatons): Drole, Diane (Drole's Dance)

High 7-A (3.29 Gigatons): Meliodas (Unsealed Demon Mark), Derieri (Combo Star)

6-C (4.3 Gigatons): Zeldris, Estarossa, Escanor (Mid/Late Morning), Meliodas (Post Revival), Tarmiel, Sariel

6-C (12.6 Gigatons): Meliodas (Post Revival Assault Mode), Ludociel (Possessing Margaret), Chandler (True Form), Cusack (True Form)

6-C (25.2 Gigatons): Original Demon, Ludociel (True Body), Derieri (Indura), Monspeet (Indura), Chimera Indura
 
Steve_Rogers1 said:
Low 7-B (1 Megaton): Meliodas (Sealed Demon Mark)

At least Low 7-B (1 Megaton): Hendrickson (Gray Demon Blood), Albion, Meliodas (Lostvayne), Matrona, Diane (After Drole's Training), Meliodas (Sealed Wrath), Galand, Meliodas (Unsealed)
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Why? There is no multiplier. We just use "At least Large Town Level, likely far higher"
 
High 7-C (424.97 Kilotons): Meliodas (Sealed), Diane (Gideon), Ban (Pre-Purgatory), King (Base), Hendrickson, Dreyfus, Gilthunder, Howzer, Arthur

Low 7-B (1 Megaton): Meliodas (Sealed Demon Mark)

At least Low 7-B (1 Megaton): Hendrickson (Gray Demon Blood), Albion, Meliodas (Lostvayne), Matrona, Diane (After Drole's Training), Meliodas (Sealed Wrath), Galand, Meliodas (Unsealed)

7-A (652.35 Megatons): Gloxinia, Monspeet (Base), King (After Gloxinia's Training)

At least 7-A (652.35 Megatons), likely High 7-A (3.29 Gigatons): Drole, Diane (Drole's Dance), Derieri (Base)

High 7-A (3.29 Gigatons): Meliodas (Unsealed Demon Mark), Derieri (Combo Star)

6-C (4.3 Gigatons): Zeldris, Estarossa, Escanor (Mid/Late Morning), Meliodas (Post Revival), Tarmiel, Sariel

6-C (12.6 Gigatons): Meliodas (Post Revival Assault Mode), Ludociel (Possessing Margaret), Chandler (True Form), Cusack (True Form)

6-C (25.2 Gigatons): Original Demon, Ludociel (True Body), Derieri (Indura), Monspeet (Indura), Chimera Indura
 
Right, it seems that the scale itself has been created. I'll ask a staff for approval to apply the changes
 
Looking at the revisions again, we should just consider Zeldris (w/God, as he was actually using God against Demon Meliodas), Estarossa, post-revival Mel, etc at least Large Mountain level+. There's a bit too much upscaling to make them island level, but Assault Mode Meliodas and co. are fine.

I'd also say that Tarmiel and Sariel's weaker vessels being Island level is also fine, as they were easily overpowering Estarossa and equaled him with two commandments.
 
I see no issues with the scaling and the ratings.
 
ByAsura said:
Looking at the revisions again, we should just consider Zeldris (w/God, as he was actually using God against Demon Meliodas), Estarossa, post-revival Mel, etc at least Large Mountain level+. There's a bit too much upscaling to make them island level, but Assault Mode Meliodas and co. are fine.

I'd also say that Tarmiel and Sariel's weaker vessels being Island level is also fine, as they were easily overpowering Estarossa and equaled him with two commandments.
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High 7-C (424.97 Kilotons): Meliodas (Sealed), Diane (Gideon), Ban (Pre-Purgatory), King (Base), Hendrickson, Dreyfus, Gilthunder, Howzer, Arthur, Vivian, Elaine, Gerharde

Low 7-B (1 Megaton): Meliodas (Sealed Demon Mark)

At least Low 7-B (1 Megaton): Hendrickson (Gray Demon Blood), Albion, Meliodas (Lostvayne), Matrona, Diane (After Drole's Training), Meliodas (Sealed Wrath)

At least Low 7-B (1 Megaton), likely far higher: Elaine (Wings), Galand, Meliodas (Unsealed), Melascula, Gowther (Emotions Restored), Grayroad, Galand (Critical Over), King (After Gloxinia's Training), Gloxinia

At least 7-A (652.35 Megatons), likely High 7-A (3.29 Gigatons): Drole, Derieri (Base), Monspeet (Base)

High 7-A (3.29 Gigatons): Meliodas (Unsealed Demon Mark), Diane (Drole's Dance), Derieri (Combo Star)

At least High 7-A (3.29 Gigatons): Meliodas (Post Revival), Estarossa, Zeldris, Escanor (Mid Morning)

6-C (4.3 Gigatons): Tarmiel, Sariel, Escanor (Late Morning)

6-C (12.9 Gigatons): Meliodas (Post Revival Assault Mode), Chandler (True Form), Cusack (True Form), Ludociel (Possessing Margaret), Zeldris (God)

6-C (25.8 Gigatons): Original Demon, Ludociel (True Body), Derieri (Indura), Monspeet (Indura)
 
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There are a couple things to note in the latest version of the scaling. I included the rest of the commandments I could think of. Drole's Dance Diane should scale straight to High 7-A since she can raise her physical strength to 50,000, which is equal with Unsealed Demon Mark Meliodas. Statements of her being comparable to Drole are before she reaches her peak iirc.
 
It's wrong, though. That's why I was talking about a recalc.
 
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