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My words are The Immovable Law like the Mountains | Arifureta Vs Kamen Rider | Kamen Rider Vulkan vs Shea haulina

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Speed equal, Location is Wakanda, Killing is the best win con for a character but if not then things such as BFR, Sealing or incapacitating is fine as well.

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Kamen Rider Rampage Vulcan Workplace Competition Arc: 7(@Veloxt1r0kore @@Arkenis @Nicetoderp @@IxaSaga2@@Expectro2000xxx @Noneless21 @@Recon1511)
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I'll just wait for the supporters to make their arguments because I ain't reading all of those haxs
 
Yeah was boutta post something about her space and soul stuff but her instinctive reaction can help her a bit.
 
yeah she's like doggy doo doo in all ancient magic, only her gravity magic and restoration magic (which only limited for low mid healing for her) is barely combat applicable
 
Yeah was boutta post something about her space and soul stuff but her instinctive reaction can help her a bit.
Both the spatial and soul hax are completely unusable in this key, only in the next one is that they are barely usable.

Her gravity also only apply to herself and things that she touch, she can make them lighter or heaver. While her time hax only limit to healing herself to a Low Mid degree at most.

Her only real hax is her precog which automatically activate when her life is in danger. She also have a semi-passive (semi because she need to activate it, but she use it a lot so at practical effects is like is always active) version that show her at least two seconds in the future, she can willingly see more in the future but that would increase the consumption depending on how far in the future she see, though the consumption only get really bad if she try to see something like days after.

Her senses are also good, both her natural five senses (she can see, her and I think even smell from several kilometers away) and her extrasensory senses are also good (her presence sensing, intention sensing, danger sense and instincts, her instincts are basically at a spider sense level).

Regarding skill since I'm pretty sure it will come to play against Kamen Rider, she at this point scale to top tiers like Hajime, Apostles, etc., which mean that she also scale above this:
An human, who in verse is just decently skilled, is able to act perfectly normal while having his senses sealed (btw this character is unable to use magic or any supernatural power, so this is completely a pure skill feat). Acting without a sense or various senses is somehing consistent through the verse, with characters like Chris (who thanks to his battle honed instincts can dodge invisible spatial attacks), Vanessa (who had her eyesight robbed by a flashbang and even so could move in a room full of armed men), Gahard (who can not only defend against the ranged attacks of 120 Haulia from all directions with just the sound of the attacks alone while in complete darkness, but he can also do the same while having both his sight and hearing impaired do to the effects of flashbangs) or Detref (who could fight without any problem inside a fog with magical effects that affect the senses of the enemies inside), it's also said how just third-rate warriors relied just in their sight in a fight, and there are several more examples of situations of people fighting without be able to rely on their senses, some of which will appear in following scans.

Normal humans, humans unable to use any unique energy or supernatural power, can also do some extreme martial and acrobatics feats with high level of precision. Like for example the ones displayed in the fight between Kimberley and Allen (btw, the Berserkers mentioned are mutants created with a virus whihc transform people in strong monsters that can't die unless their brain is destroyed and who have potent regeneration), the fight of Vanessa vs Berserker Monkeys, the Allen vs Weiss, when Allen helped Taeko against demons and possessed fanatics (the demons were creatures invisible, that Allen couldn't sense nor perceive or even interact in any way and he only knew they were there, while the possessed fanatics were people with higher specs do to be possessed), when Sabas fought against the soldiers of the futuristic empire, in the whole Fukube vs onmyoujis fight (the onmyoujis were humans able to use special powers, that additionally summoned fantasy creatures called shikis which are basically monsters with some special trait), or the casual Ulfrick vs Altina fight (elfs in the verse don't have magic or any special power, so besides their longer lives and beauty they are just normal humans) there is also how Liliana (a princess that never in her life had physical combat training) mastered Aikido from internet videos which is a decent martial feat. While not actually a martial or acrobatic feat, there are some good precision feats from childs, like the first time Myu used a weapon (Myu had 6 years and this was like two weeks after meet Hajime and become his foster daugther) or Par who sniped apostles from 5km below (Par is a 10 years old child).

The verse also have show groups with high skill regarding warfare, as show with the Haulia clan when they annihilated the demon forces that invaded the Haltina forest (the same demon forces that almost killed a completely serious Ulfrick if the Haulia didn't saved him). Canonically the Yaegashi clan (a group of completely normal humans) is comparable with the Haulia clan and each have show to share and learn from the other clan, the Yaegashi clan is considered the leader of the ninja clans and are each member have deathly daily training regardless of their age or occupation, are a group that can casually try to kill Hajime and who have defeated the elite forces of multiple countries who attacked he Returnees families (which should had the level of characters like Allen, Fukube and even Sabas).
Plus the stuff in her own profile.
 
So already Vulcan start off with a very chunky AP difference with him scale above Post-Progrise Hopper Blade Zero-One who casually stomp Thouser who is a casual 2.5 Gigaton due to being 1000% stronger than a form that is massively stronger than 250 megaton.

Both has speed amp, would Limit Break be considered a speedblitz in Arifureta verse? Vulcan dealt with an attempt speedblitz stealth attack without using ZAIA Spec at the time, the same speedblitz mode that stuffed average A.I. massively sped up their perception to the point that a failure of a comedian can trained in his own head long enough that he's more than a match than a trained soldier.

and in term of sheer statistics amp, does she have anything else other than Limit Break? He can individually amp both his AP and Dura with Mammoth and Kong Ability which allowed him to completely shrugged off a Finisher, basically a move that one-shot peer opponent, without any damage.

And about Skill.

Zero-One Rider doesn't have conventional Skill feats like "This man has fight with his eyes closed" or "This dude has a special techniques that counter X". Because that stuff get counter by average Humagear A.I. being able to take a glance and copies opponent's moves, even the special techniques that took years to cultivate. As seen by Zero-One who's initial skill jump from average civilian to good enough to tussles with several military personnel.

it turn into how much faster you can just adapt through your opponents gimmicks than they can do to you.

Dodo Magia absolutely trounced Shining Hopper in it's first debut despite the fact that it has never encountered a TP spams before in it's entirely life, and it took exactly 20 seconds for Dodo Magia to counter TP spams and predicting Zero-One every moves.

and then Shining Arithmetic is now online and it is Dodo Magia who is on the receiving end of getting Adapted. It took Zero-One's punch getting dodge once and Dodo Magia just can't keep up anymore, any attempts made by Dodo Magia adapting to Zero-One is moot by the fact that Zero-One just Adapt faster, along with the fact that Shining Arithmetic was made specifically to **** with Adapting.

and then Thouser came along and completely trounced Shining Arithmetic, and then Vulcan stomp Thouser.
 
So already Vulcan start off with a very chunky AP difference with him scale above Post-Progrise Hopper Blade Zero-One who casually stomp Thouser who is a casual 2.5 Gigaton due to being 1000% stronger than a form that is massively stronger than 250 megaton.
So a 4.3x advantage to him in base and with Limiter Removal activated it would be 1.6x, not that big the gap I guess.
Both has speed amp, would Limit Break be considered a speedblitz in Arifureta verse? Vulcan dealt with an attempt speedblitz stealth attack without using ZAIA Spec at the time, the same speedblitz mode that stuffed average A.I. massively sped up their perception to the point that a failure of a comedian can trained in his own head long enough that he's more than a match than a trained soldier.
Yes and no, it would depend who use it and against who, most top tiers can still fight when a comparable character use an amp like Limit Break, while low tiers end more ****** if a comparable opponent use it. Also, there are techniques specifically cented in amping speed like Supersonic Step which can make the user move fte to the enemy, that type of thing is relatively common and still people top tiers can fight without problem.

Though even if he could perceive her movement she would still be faster, which mean that she will be able to do more moves than him and his body will be unable to react as fast as to her even if his mind can follow her, so he still would have problems.
and in term of sheer statistics amp, does she have anything else other than Limit Break? He can individually amp both his AP and Dura with Mammoth and Kong Ability which allowed him to completely shrugged off a Finisher, basically a move that one-shot peer opponent, without any damage.
At this point her Body Strengthening only had two levels, so aside from Limiter Removal she don't have more, like if she is using Limiter Removal then she already is using her second level of strengthening. Though in exchange of not having more amps she herself grow stat wise (and skill wise) each second, like at one point Alva used a barrier that she was supposed to be unable to break (and showed to not do any damage to it) and then the next second she destroyed it.

Guess they would help him to resist better and punch harder, though as always with unquantifiable amps is unknow how that really translate in values.

Something however that I just noticed is that she have a huge LS advantage, and that's actually something important because she like to use holds, chokeholds, and restraining moves in general from lucha. So that's something really dangerous to him.
And about Skill.

Zero-One Rider doesn't have conventional Skill feats like "This man has fight with his eyes closed" or "This dude has a special techniques that counter X". Because that stuff get counter by average Humagear A.I. being able to take a glance and copies opponent's moves, even the special techniques that took years to cultivate. As seen by Zero-One who's initial skill jump from average civilian to good enough to tussles with several military personnel.

it turn into how much faster you can just adapt through your opponents gimmicks than they can do to you.

Dodo Magia absolutely trounced Shining Hopper in it's first debut despite the fact that it has never encountered a TP spams before in it's entirely life, and it took exactly 20 seconds for Dodo Magia to counter TP spams and predicting Zero-One every moves.

and then Shining Arithmetic is now online and it is Dodo Magia who is on the receiving end of getting Adapted. It took Zero-One's punch getting dodge once and Dodo Magia just can't keep up anymore, any attempts made by Dodo Magia adapting to Zero-One is moot by the fact that Zero-One just Adapt faster, along with the fact that Shining Arithmetic was made specifically to **** with Adapting.

and then Thouser came along and completely trounced Shining Arithmetic, and then Vulcan stomp Thouser.
The military thing isn't really important unless we get to know the level of the people he defeated, their skill feats and so.

The rest of the things don't really know what to think regarding skill wise, like yes they are good calculating and analytical feats, but don't really know how that actually translate to pure skill feats since I don't know the skill of those.

Though would like to say that even despite the above things her precog and instincts will tell her what will happen and what to do, the precog not only because it will show her the actual literal future but because she also have a type of precog that let her see what things are effective and what to do to accomplish her desire (like for example at the beginning of the story she used it to how to save her family, which lead her to meet Hajime and Yue), the instincts because as I mentioned they are basically spider senses.
 
Also, just like in the last match with Shea I forgot about her stealth, so if not much problem will just copy the fragment from that moment whe I remembered it in the other fight:
Also, just forgot but her stealth would likely be also dangerous, since even she is above her whole family in that regard and her family can make their presences so thin that even people with strong senses (both normal senses and extrasensory senses) have problems to see their figures while they are in front of their eyes (she even should scale above the abyss monsters stealth, with each layer monster having a better stealth than the previous layer and the low layers monsters already having stealth that made them invisible and blocked their presence, heat, mana, etc), she can use her stealth in middle of combat.
Would probably help her to get some good hits and moves.
 
Though even if he could perceive her movement she would still be faster, which mean that she will be able to do more moves than him and his body will be unable to react as fast as to her even if his mind can follow her, so he still would have problems.
The thing is, the speed amp that by all account should be blitzing him are easily dealt with because he is that good.

That is him without ZAIA Spec boosting his perception, nor he activating his Speed Amp which also blitz people who have the same perception Amp as ZAIA Spec and that can be used at a thought too.
Guess they would help him to resist better and punch harder, though as always with unquantifiable amps is unknow how that really translate in values.
Damn high is a good indication. Finisher one-shot peer opponent, Vulcan activate one of his own amp is enough to easily shrug it off without any visible damage. And the people he has shrug off scale above her.
Though in exchange of not having more amps she herself grow stat wise (and skill wise) each second, like at one point Alva used a barrier that she was supposed to be unable to break (and showed to not do any damage to it) and then the next second she destroyed it.

Hey, welcome to Zero-One. Weakest RPL in the series easily trump 2x stat gap and get good enough to adapt through TP spams in 20 seconds. Zero-One trump that with his baseline RPL and Vulcan scale over that by about two layers, potentially as high as Z1 who kinda just jump two entire tiers in order to surpassed Thouser.


Something however that I just noticed is that she have a huge LS advantage, and that's actually something important because she like to use holds, chokeholds, and restraining moves in general from lucha. So that's something really dangerous to him.
That could certainly be a problem.

But Vulcan can basically spawns projectiles/elementals around him, or on his body. This include but not limited to lightning danmaku needles, homing wolf shots, fire that vaporize opponent due to sheer heat, flash freeze ice, and stinger that can inject poison that deconstruct opponent onto cellular level.

Also, he has flight that he isn't afraid to abuse.

The rest of the things don't really know what to think regarding skill wise, like yes they are good calculating and analytical feats, but don't really know how that actually translate to pure skill feats since I don't know the skill of those.
Again, it isn't a conventional one since the conventional way of showing "skill" will be immediately copies by Vulcan due to how fast A.I. can analyse stuff, they literally have all the time they need with their massively slowdown perception.



Though would like to say that even despite the above things her precog and instincts will tell her what will happen and what to do, the precog not only because it will show her the actual literal future but because she also have a type of precog that let her see what things are effective and what to do to accomplish her desire (like for example at the beginning of the story she used it to how to save her family, which lead her to meet Hajime and Yue), the instincts because as I mentioned they are basically spider senses.

The precog can be useful, but here's lie the things about Z1 Precog. It kept growing better.

As Shea changed her tactics so does Vulcan being able to basically simulated what she will planned ahead in times, the more she kept fighting him the more he just understand where and how she will attacks him from.

That is how he is able to just shrug off Valkyrie attempt at blizting him.

This level of analyse are able to even work against peep that has Type 2 Acausality like Zero-One.

And on the instinctive reaction part, Zero-One weaker form got that too. Dodging attack from point-blank range, from his blind spot and whatnot but got trounced by Thouser anyway.


Also, just like in the last match with Shea I forgot about her stealth, so if not much problem will just copy the fragment from that moment whe I remembered it in the other fight:

Would probably help her to get some good hits and moves.

She better end the fight fast or I could see Vulcan just adapt through it by reading where she would attacks next.
 
The thing is, the speed amp that by all account should be blitzing him are easily dealt with because he is that good.

That is him without ZAIA Spec boosting his perception, nor he activating his Speed Amp which also blitz people who have the same perception Amp as ZAIA Spec and that can be used at a thought too.
I mean, logically speaking his body is slower, so even if his mind can process the things his body itself can't go to the same speed, so there still are a limit that regarding speed that he can't negate do to the pure limits of his body. I would also like to see the blitzing scene if possible to get a better idea.
Damn high is a good indication. Finisher one-shot peer opponent, Vulcan activate one of his own amp is enough to easily shrug it off without any visible damage. And the people he has shrug off scale above her.
One shots in verse don't really apply outside the verse, but I get the point that he have a good advantage.
Hey, welcome to Zero-One. Weakest RPL in the series easily trump 2x stat gap and get good enough to adapt through TP spams in 20 seconds. Zero-One trump that with his baseline RPL and Vulcan scale over that by about two layers, potentially as high as Z1 who kinda just jump two entire tiers in order to surpassed Thouser.
Ok. Want to point however that Shea did go from like 10-A to tier 7 in a weak of training, so while not the same I want to point that her RPL isn't super simple.
That could certainly be a problem.

But Vulcan can basically spawns projectiles/elementals around him, or on his body. This include but not limited to lightning danmaku needles, homing wolf shots, fire that vaporize opponent due to sheer heat, flash freeze ice, and stinger that can inject poison that deconstruct opponent onto cellular level.

Also, he has flight that he isn't afraid to abuse.
She regularly fight against Hajime and Yue, two characters that can spam a hell of projectiles (in Yue case with just a thought they already spaw), so that isn't something exactly new to her. Even when she was 10-A character could receive lightning attacks from Hajime do to she instinctually using a crude version of her body strengthening, Yue also like to use elemental attacks (lightning that do to scale about Miledi should be able to light up an ocean until the horizon, fire that even in her super weakened state after be free from her three hundred years seal could melt a big monsters able to shrug off af is nothing three thousand celsius, ice that can go to az, wind able to create tornadoes, earth, etc), Shea have receive her attacks head on even while in her one week training and at her current point she can shrug all of that that even when Yue mix it with things like ancient magic. The poison get countered by her restoration magic (a minor time manip that can heal her to Low Mid levels, nulling in this way status effects like poison, petrification, etc), I could argue that she also just develop a resistance to it with her will power plus metamorphosis magic but since it get directly nulled by the restoration magic then there is no point in going that route.

She have platform creation that she abuse to basically fly, all of Hajime group fight a lot in the air do to the platform creation or direct flight with magic.
The precog can be useful, but here's lie the things about Z1 Precog. It kept growing better.

As Shea changed her tactics so does Vulcan being able to basically simulated what she will planned ahead in times, the more she kept fighting him the more he just understand where and how she will attacks him from.

That is how he is able to just shrug off Valkyrie attempt at blizting him.

This level of analyse are able to even work against peep that has Type 2 Acausality like Zero-One.

And on the instinctive reaction part, Zero-One weaker form got that too. Dodging attack from point-blank range, from his blind spot and whatnot but got trounced by Thouser anyway.
I mean, Shea is, quite literally, seeing the future that will happen. She isn't predicting via analysis like the AI, she just directly see what will happen, so if he decide to change his action from say 'instead of punching left to punch right' she will see him punching the right.

Also don't know why would acausality type 2 block someone from predicting stuff via analysis (like I'm pretty sure that isn't the case), but even if we consider that Shea precog work on Apostles who lack future and fate.

What you mentioned is something that most of the verse have do, in her case her instincts even let her know that something is fake when that could only be know with soul sight.



Going to bed and tomorrow wil be somewhat busy so probably will take several hours to answer anything.
 
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I mean, logically speaking his body is slower, so even if his mind can process the things his body itself can't go to the same speed, so there still are a limit that regarding speed that he can't negate do to the pure limits of his body. I would also like to see the blitzing scene if possible to get a better idea.
Vulcan's amp is different to Zaia Spec's perception amp. His speed amp comes from Cheetah and Falcon's abilities which amps his whole body and perception.

The poison get countered by her restoration magic (a minor time manip that can heal her to Low Mid levels, nulling in this way status effects like poison, petrification, etc), I could argue that she also just develop a resistance to it with her will power plus metamorphosis magic but since it get directly nulled by the restoration magic then there is no point in going that route.
Vulcan's poison deconstructs the whole body in a second or so I don't think Low-Mid healing can work.

I mean, Shea is, quite literally, seeing the future that will happen. She isn't predicting via analysis like the AI, she just directly see what will happen, so if he decide to change his action from say 'instead of punching left to punch right' she will see him punching the right.
Since speed is equal, Speed Amp could probably counter precog by going faster than she can see the future. Not shown in Zero-One in particular but in Zi-O, that counter a person that can see the future.
 
Vulcan's amp is different to Zaia Spec's perception amp. His speed amp comes from Cheetah and Falcon's abilities which amps his whole body and perception.
If it amp his whole speed that is a different thing, could be easier to mention that before.
Vulcan's poison deconstructs the whole body in a second or so I don't think Low-Mid healing can work.
I mean, the regen is quite fast since is just turn restore her body via manipulating her own time. If she also know that it will come (either do to the her automatic precog when her life is in danger, her semi-passive precog that let her see seconds in the future constantly, or her instincts) she can prepare it to receive the poison better. She also probably resist it with a mix of her gut/will and metamorphosis magic, that was how at some point she instantly developed resistance to something that eroded the body.
Since speed is equal, Speed Amp could probably counter precog by going faster than she can see the future. Not shown in Zero-One in particular but in Zi-O, that counter a person that can see the future.
I would say that that isn't how precog work against speed, but in any case she can use her precog to react against people who see her in slow motion (for example in her Udar fight or when Kaori use Godspeed which is a time manip based speed amp). So a speed amp definitely isn't going to null her ability to see the future at all.
 
I mean, the regen is quite fast since is just turn restore her body via manipulating her own time. If she also know that it will come (either do to the her automatic precog when her life is in danger, her semi-passive precog that let her see seconds in the future constantly, or her instincts) she can prepare it to receive the poison better. She also probably resist it with a mix of her gut/will and metamorphosis magic, that was how at some point she instantly developed resistance to something that eroded the body.
But isn't that going to fall into NLF department?
 
If it amp his whole speed that is a different thing, could be easier to mention that before.
Ah, I just joined but Vulcan has like 11 different types of amps.
I mean, the regen is quite fast since is just turn restore her body via manipulating her own time. If she also know that it will come (either do to the her automatic precog when her life is in danger, her semi-passive precog that let her see seconds in the future constantly, or her instincts) she can prepare it to receive the poison better. She also probably resist it with a mix of her gut/will and metamorphosis magic, that was how at some point she instantly developed resistance to something that eroded the body.

I would say that that isn't how precog work against speed, but in any case she can use her precog to react against people who see her in slow motion (for example in her Udar fight or when Kaori use Godspeed which is a time manip based speed amp). So a speed amp definitely isn't going to null her ability to see the future at all.
Interesting, Vulcan is a pretty big spammer so she has to prepare for multiple things. It could make it really hard for her to deal with. I'm also skeptical on how much she can resist the poison since eroding the body is not nearly as potent as making the whole body disappear into molecules. To back that up, the poison has a property of being able to rearrange it's composition, properties, structure, and state of substances. This makes the poison capable of changing each time to bypass her resistance.

Vulcan can also react to people who could see him in slow motion but only difference is that he doesn't have precog. The speed amps won't null her precog, but its far harder to keep track of a character who can speed amp. To make things harder, his speed is capable of leaving afterimages so she could possibly see multiple Vulcans or a blur of Vulcans in her precog.
 
Interesting, Vulcan is a pretty big spammer so she has to prepare for multiple things. It could make it really hard for her to deal with. I'm also skeptical on how much she can resist the poison since eroding the body is not nearly as potent as making the whole body disappear into molecules. To back that up, the poison has a property of being able to rearrange it's composition, properties, structure, and state of substances. This makes the poison capable of changing each time to bypass her resistance.
Bruh i forgot how bonker Sting Scorpion's poison is, thats shit almost similar to Askin's "Desth Dealing"
 
would say that that isn't how precog work against speed, but in any case she can use her precog to react against people who see her in slow motion (for example in her Udar fight or when Kaori use Godspeed which is a time manip based speed amp). So a speed amp definitely isn't going to null her ability to see the future at all.
The perception amp in Zero-One doesn't make people move in slow-motion, it allowed them to basically see everything as a barely animated statue.

Upon experiencing his first Perception Amp, Zero-One has 5 seconds in real time to read through all the manuals on how to operated the Drivers, learning martials arts, driving and 6 other tutorials in order to become a proper Rider. In another instance, Zero-One was able to have a minute long conversation with his A.I. secretary about his Mid-Season's form true power and a pinky promised right as he was about to be crush by a giant mech.

That is how slow-down the perception is for people who have the same level of thought process as an A.I.

And before Vulcan got his hand on either his Rider form or his ZAIA Spec to boost his thought process, he was hunting down Magia for a living.

Speed amp in this verse allowed the Rider to completely statue-ed average level Magia.

The feat where Vulcan blocks barrage of speed amp sneak attack from Valkyrie? He was doing that without ANY of the above abilities, just pure predicting and nothing else. Hell, Valkyrie was on ZAIA Spec at the time and she got bodied by Vulcan twice. And she got a backup (that is stronger than her) for one of that fight.

Vulcan can also just fly and rain down bullets onto her with his hilariously higher range, danmaku with Lightning Hornet and Wolf ability to homing in onto his target.
 
Ah, I just joined but Vulcan has like 11 different types of amps.

Interesting, Vulcan is a pretty big spammer so she has to prepare for multiple things. It could make it really hard for her to deal with. I'm also skeptical on how much she can resist the poison since eroding the body is not nearly as potent as making the whole body disappear into molecules. To back that up, the poison has a property of being able to rearrange it's composition, properties, structure, and state of substances. This makes the poison capable of changing each time to bypass her resistance.

Vulcan can also react to people who could see him in slow motion but only difference is that he doesn't have precog. The speed amps won't null her precog, but its far harder to keep track of a character who can speed amp. To make things harder, his speed is capable of leaving afterimages so she could possibly see multiple Vulcans or a blur of Vulcans in her precog.
The profile only really mention that he have a higher speed with a finisher like Rampage Speed Blast which use Cheetah and Falcon, so don't know about other speed amps in this key.

The thing that eroded the body quate literally destroyed all the life forms in a planet (to the point that the life forms needed to ascend to immaterial life forms so they could still exist even without a body), so it was pretty damn potent the thing. And the point about her being able to counter with will, metamorphosis magic and/or restoration magic is do to the mechanic of them. Metamorphosis magic for example is ancient magic which whole concept is the control of all organic matter, with it it can be done basically anything related to organic matter and living beings (change dna, create whole new races, change completely a being biology, etc.) and Shea only way to use metamorphosis magic is on herself so in face of something like deconstruction she is likely to try to use it on her body to resist it (the same way as how Tio showed to resist deconstruction with it or Shea who did the same in her next key when she fought Apostles). Restoration magic is ancient magic which whole concept is the control of time, it can do various things but Shea is only able to use it on herself (which is how she got her regen, her precog also come from it), so if she try to use it against the deconstruction the time of her body will be restored to before get poisoned. And her will is quite strong, strong to the point that she develop resistances to haxs with it (be it to spatial hax, gravity hax, soul hax, etc), with pure will is that Hajime in this key developed resistance to deconstruction when facing for the first time Ehit, and Shea in that same fight a bit after that scene was stated to have a will equal to Hajime and showed to resist Divine Edict (which was the thing used against Hajime), so she could likely resist the ceonstruction do to sheer will. Is do to this reasons that I mentioned thatr I belive that the deconstruction isn't going to be useful against Shea.

Is certainly harder to follow some faster do to the body limit as I mentioned before, however independently of the speed Shea still is able to see the future and know what will happen, speed don't affect at all her precog. Also, beside the fact that her party member and Apostles can do afterimages and she face them without problem (Apostles are even able to create copies), her instincts and senses (like her intention sensing or even normal senses) would tell her the real one.
The perception amp in Zero-One doesn't make people move in slow-motion, it allowed them to basically see everything as a barely animated statue.
That was the slow motion that I was talking (I was even doubting if call it slow motion or freezed perception).

About the rest of things said about the perception amp don't have much to say, they have always be used in combat so they haven't be used to have talks like you mentioned, it have be used to learn and calculate things however (like how Hajime generally use his Riftwalf in combat, with an example being the time when he used it to discover how to survive against a danmaku falling against him as thickly as raindrops with each attack being able to one-shot him and the girls).

Vulcan can also just fly and rain down bullets onto her with his hilariously higher range, danmaku with Lightning Hornet and Wolf ability to homing in onto his target.
That would be assuming that Shea for some reason let him increase the distance without closing it, which she will do. Literally all her party members can fly and rain attacks from a hilariosly higher range than Vulcan, and even then they have problems against Shea.
 
The profile only really mention that he have a higher speed with a finisher like Rampage Speed Blast which use Cheetah and Falcon, so don't know about other speed amps in this key.
I'll admit that some of the Zero-One profiles could use more tuning but he also has like 4 different AP amps that he can use (Kong, Shark, Mammoth, any of his Finisher)

The thing that eroded the body quate literally destroyed all the life forms in a planet (to the point that the life forms needed to ascend to immaterial life forms so they could still exist even without a body), so it was pretty damn potent the thing. And the point about her being able to counter with will, metamorphosis magic and/or restoration magic is do to the mechanic of them. Metamorphosis magic for example is ancient magic which whole concept is the control of all organic matter, with it it can be done basically anything related to organic matter and living beings (change dna, create whole new races, change completely a being biology, etc.) and Shea only way to use metamorphosis magic is on herself so in face of something like deconstruction she is likely to try to use it on her body to resist it (the same way as how Tio showed to resist deconstruction with it or Shea who did the same in her next key when she fought Apostles). Restoration magic is ancient magic which whole concept is the control of time, it can do various things but Shea is only able to use it on herself (which is how she got her regen, her precog also come from it), so if she try to use it against the deconstruction the time of her body will be restored to before get poisoned. And her will is quite strong, strong to the point that she develop resistances to haxs with it (be it to spatial hax, gravity hax, soul hax, etc), with pure will is that Hajime in this key developed resistance to deconstruction when facing for the first time Ehit, and Shea in that same fight a bit after that scene was stated to have a will equal to Hajime and showed to resist Divine Edict (which was the thing used against Hajime), so she could likely resist the ceonstruction do to sheer will. Is do to this reasons that I mentioned thatr I belive that the deconstruction isn't going to be useful against Shea.
Isn't that the range of the ability? I'm pretty sure if Vulcan can have that range, he could have done the same thing. And based off the scan for the resistance, it said it eroded her body but she created a counter balance. I'm really confused here since the profile has "Capable of healing minor wounds and fractures and recover from most slow-progressing status effects in a few seconds using restoration magic." She has Reactive Evolution but can only regen in a low-mid rate. What if Vulcan catches her with multiple stings which has different properties? (Although these are things from her Tier 6-5 key)

Another problem I have is that some of these abilities and resistances are shown in another key where her abilities became stronger. I don't think those should apply here.

Also, how does she do against fire and ice?

Is certainly harder to follow some faster do to the body limit as I mentioned before, however independently of the speed Shea still is able to see the future and know what will happen, speed don't affect at all her precog. Also, beside the fact that her party member and Apostles can do afterimages and she face them without problem (Apostles are even able to create copies), her instincts and senses (like her intention sensing or even normal senses) would tell her the real one.
okay, going off her profile, "Can see possible futures though this leaves her exhausted after it activates by itself[10]. This ability also automatically activates when her life is in danger. She can actively see 2 seconds into the future whenever she wants to"

Things I noticed are that the scan says the precog is not absolute, it leaves her exhausted, and she can only see 2 seconds into the future. I don't think that is good enough to beat Vulcan.

That would be assuming that Shea for some reason let him increase the distance without closing it, which she will do. Literally all her party members can fly and rain attacks from a hilariosly higher range than Vulcan, and even then they have problems against Shea.
They don't bring the same moveset as Vulcan tho so that doesn't apply to Vulcan 1:1.

Also forgot to mention his summoning but I'll save it for when it's needed.
 
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The thing that eroded the body quate literally destroyed all the life forms in a planet (to the point that the life forms needed to ascend to immaterial life forms so they could still exist even without a body), so it was pretty damn potent the thing
First, that's basically just range.

Second, do we have a scan of how the poison work exactly? Things doesn't have to completely overpowered resistances and hax, for all we know the poison in question can be basically a giant loophole in the magic system that cannot be conventionally fixed with standard magic of the verse.

That was the slow motion that I was talking (I was even doubting if call it slow motion or freezed perception).

About the rest of things said about the perception amp don't have much to say, they have always be used in combat so they haven't be used to have talks like you mentioned, it have be used to learn and calculate things however (like how Hajime generally use his Riftwalf in combat, with an example being the time when he used it to discover how to survive against a danmaku falling against him as thickly as raindrops with each attack being able to one-shot him and the girls).
The things I mentioned is that they are all done during combat or just as the combat about to start. All of it, Zero-One was able to trained himself inside his head that he's able to jump from a failed comedian to someone that can CQC Fuwa, someone that regularly fight against Humagear, the same Humagear that also learned and copies things it has saw and mastered it, without any transformation because he is built different like that.

And if we're talking about calculating then Zero-One calcs hundreds of millions of scenarios with the help of Zea just~ as he was about to get his connection rip off by the villain and lose his perception amp.

This extended for at least hours into the future in order to find a plan to counteract Ark's own future predictions.

That would be assuming that Shea for some reason let him increase the distance without closing it, which she will do. Literally all her party members can fly and rain attacks from a hilariosly higher range than Vulcan, and even then they have problems against Shea.
And what would she do? She need her future sight to not get slap by Vulcan's precog, and if her two seconds precog DID trigger than Vulcan will notice and changed his tactics to act against her future vision at the very last second. By her having that constant precog and instinctive reaction that will allowed Vulcan to kept growing stronger, and the rate of growth in Z1 Rider has already been stated. Getting their punch dodge is enough for them to completely nullified predictions, and that one is almost the bottom of the barrel
 
Isn't that the range of the ability? I'm pretty sure if Vulcan can have that range, he could have done the same thing. And based off the scan for the resistance, it said it eroded her body but she created a counter balance. I'm really confused here since the profile has "Capable of healing minor wounds and fractures and recover from most slow-progressing status effects in a few seconds using restoration magic." She has Reactive Evolution but can only regen in a low-mid rate. What if Vulcan catches her with multiple stings which has different properties? (Although these are things from her Tier 6-5 key)

Another problem I have is that some of these abilities and resistances are shown in another key where her abilities became stronger. I don't think those should apply here.

Also, how does she do against fire and ice?
Nah, the thing literally destroyed the physical body of all living beings, it wasn't only a range thing but a potency one. Yes, do to her affinity with restoration magic she can't regen beyond a low-mid level, though the speed at which she can do so is actually higher than what that scan state since the scan is from vol 6 while this is a vol 11 Shea (in the meanwhile she not only become better with her abilitites but also got evolution magic which increase the potency of powers with info manip, including other ancient magics).

They are mostly in other keys because in those is that she showed to face said thing herself, technically speaking in this key she already have deconstruction resistance via resisting Divine Edict which can deconstruct things (I'm like, 90% sure that the only reason isn't listed along the other Divine Edict resistances is only because None added the things and forgot about that when I was unable to use my computer).

She do fine against it, Tio main element is fire and Shea receive her attacks without problem, Yue as I said also use a lot of elemental attacks which include ice spell that go to absolute zero levels and Shea face her normally. She also now that I remember have the Air Zone which regulate the temperature around the user, and I believe that control of temperature is done with the heat isolation properties of spatial magic, that probably would protect her.
okay, going off her profile, "Can see possible futures though this leaves her exhausted after it activates by itself[10]. This ability also automatically activates when her life is in danger. She can actively see 2 seconds into the future whenever she wants to"

Things I noticed are that the scan says the precog is not absolute, it leaves her exhausted, and she can only see 2 seconds into the future. I don't think that is good enough to beat Vulcan.
That was her precog at volume 2 when she was introduced in the story and was like 10-A, after that point she trained to use better her power, which include reduce the consumption from it, so she currently can use it consecutively without problem, though as the consumption is relatively speaking still high if she use it too many times for too long periods of time she will eventually run out of mana, is the same with her regeneration via restoration magic (is do to this conditions about her haxs that I submitted her to the tournament and insisted that she isn't broken, because her only haxs are bearable). The 2 seconds active version is to make it have a good consumption-efficiency rate, she can increase it if she want but by having a higher consumption depending on how much in the future she see, also, the 2 seconds version is another different variant of her automatic precog that activate when her life is in danger.
First, that's basically just range.

Second, do we have a scan of how the poison work exactly? Things doesn't have to completely overpowered resistances and hax, for all we know the poison in question can be basically a giant loophole in the magic system that cannot be conventionally fixed with standard magic of the verse.
Isn't only range though.

Can search for scans about the poison. Also, don't know what you mean about a loophole when to resist it was used magic. The poison at the very least ended with a civilization far more advanced than the current Earth.
And what would she do? She need her future sight to not get slap by Vulcan's precog, and if her two seconds precog DID trigger than Vulcan will notice and changed his tactics to act against her future vision at the very last second. By her having that constant precog and instinctive reaction that will allowed Vulcan to kept growing stronger, and the rate of growth in Z1 Rider has already been stated. Getting their punch dodge is enough for them to completely nullified predictions, and that one is almost the bottom of the barrel
She would see that change in the future though, at the end unless he resist precog that see the literal future (not predict with analysis, but see the literal timeaxis) Shea will always know what action he will take and the consequences of it.


Everything said though, while I believe that Shea can fight him and have some chances to defeat him through her LS and martial arts, in the end do to the stats differences and multiple amps Vulcan is more likely to win most of the time, this Shea lack the means to consistently finish him despite that.
 
The poison and skill debate is still incon but its only a fraction of the debate.

Vulcan seems to have the edge in the rest of the things so I'm gonna agree with above and vote Vulcan.
 
Ok, if I counted correctly this is like this

Vulcan: @Veloxt1r0kore @Arkenis @Nicetoderp @IxaSaga2

Shea: @Expectro2000xxx (Although he accepts that Vulcan wins in most scenarios)
No, I vote for Vulcan, think that Shea can win a certain % don't mean I will vote for her unless that % is considerable high, which in this case I said isn't likely the case.
The poison and skill debate is still incon but its only a fraction of the debate.

Vulcan seems to have the edge in the rest of the things so I'm gonna agree with above and vote Vulcan.
Talked with Pegasus in the current crt and already added the missing deconstruction resistance to the profiles to the people able to resist Divine Edict since it can deconstruct things.
I mean with how bonkers the poison are, i feel it should be obvious that the poison can bypass what Shea do
Considering how bonkers Shea methods to resist are, and how bonkers the disintegration/deconstruction is in Arifureta, no it wouldn't bypass it at all.
 
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