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My Hero Academia Speed Upgrade
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So were back Woohoo. Now back to business where were we about the speed upgrade cuz I did have good reasoning for the speed buff via light being real stated multiple times and the databooks calling it a real laser and there’s absolutely no denying the facts I’ve stated. If u read from top of the thread to the bottom I prove my reasons throughly And speed upgrade is imminent ppl are agreeing wit me as well.
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Watching this. I like these light speed mha debates. They make me laugh.
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The Navel Laser has enough force to launch Yuga at high-speeds, which real lasers don't have enough force to be able to, so that's out of the question. It's the same reason Frieza's Death Beams and Homeless Emperor's energy blasts aren't accepted as real lasers. They don't function as real lasers, they're just energy beams made from light.
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Yes. There is not enough support for them to be lightspeed.
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How can ya say there isn’t enough evidence to prove its lightspeed when they tell you multiple times that the laser is literally light....
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Fictional beams don't always travel at lightspeed by default. There has to be some supporting evidence - and characters like Mina being able to easily dodge out of the way of them is strong counter-evidence.
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Like scroll up and look at every link I sent the databooks says it’s pure light. Thirteen who’s quirk is black hole meaning > light she even says my quirk can atomize shit at a atomic level including “light” which she called Aoyamas beam
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It’s not really counter evidence it’s jus a means to prove my point that everyone and everything in the verse is ftl reaction wise, not movement. Also what do you mean some supporting evidence I sent multiple panels and a thorough explanation on why I feel correct. Even then in the manga in recent chapters they talk about how Aoyamas beam is still light even after everything they’ve been thru in the past arcs meaning they are continuously and or retconing any anti evidence ppl have to prove it isn’t light. Or lightspeed
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Lastly toru hagakure came in the clutch for this thread she jus helped prove my point even more by having light manipulating powers and having power associated with light. She off rip tells his shit is light and how she can refract it outwards meaning when she sends it out it’s lightspeed. It’s impossible for The world light to be brought up soo many times to send out supersonic speeds attacks it makes zero sense. Even if you won’t accept the lightspeed feat even tho u should they still have mhs+ feats from the movie and manga via kaminari reacting to lightning in the war.
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I'll just say that we shouldn't massively upgrade the speed of multiple characters just because of a few outliers and/or feats that are highly debatable to be actual speed feats in the first place (like Kaminari "reacting" to "lightning" in the War arc, when we never see him do so and we have no reason to think that the Amplivolt quirk releases electricity at the speed of lightning). Especially when it goes against the general context and narrative wherein said characters are clearly not that fast combined with most of their feats.
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I mean he calls it lightning in the official release and kaminari was seen behind everyone and jetted to the front when realizing the importance of what they were doing and how he felt the need to protect ones he loves he blitzed to the front before anything could touch the heroes. Then amplivolt says that’s good let’s see how many million more colts u can handle. Also it isn’t a outlier if everyone’s speed is boosted is it? No everyone jus scales above that simple. Cuz the fact that all this proof is there is insane
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As far as I know, amplivolt is just electricity manipulation and the villain literally gets his electricity from a taser, meaning that calling it a lightning isn't literal nor we can assume that he's launching or discharging said electricity at the speed of lightning (which varies in speed too).
Kaminari didn't blitz anyone or react to anything either. Kaminari dashed to the front, which means that he has faster travel speed than the pros (unlikely) or the pros aren't really dashing at their full speed unlike Kaminari (most likely unless we're suggesting he's faster than Edgeshot, and we only saw him get past a couple of heroes).
Kaminari doesn't react to the electricity attaxk itself, that's never been shown, and he clearly notices the villain well before the villain ever launches his electricity attack. We only see Kaminari during the attack as already using himself as a conductor of sorts that sucks up all of the discharged electricity.
A single natural lightning bolt contains at least hundreds of millioms of volts, up to billions. Unless it's been explicitly stated that the Amplivolt can raise it to that amount, it doesn't amount to anything either.
It becomes an outlier when a lot of characters in the series are barely bullet timers and mostly flounder around supersonic range until we get to the top tiers, so suddenly giving them a ridiculously immense speed upgrade due to Navel Laser or some other beam attacks, it becomes an outlier (assuming the feats are valid or correctly interpreted/described in the first place).
Kaminari didn't blitz anyone or react to anything either. Kaminari dashed to the front, which means that he has faster travel speed than the pros (unlikely) or the pros aren't really dashing at their full speed unlike Kaminari (most likely unless we're suggesting he's faster than Edgeshot, and we only saw him get past a couple of heroes).
Kaminari doesn't react to the electricity attaxk itself, that's never been shown, and he clearly notices the villain well before the villain ever launches his electricity attack. We only see Kaminari during the attack as already using himself as a conductor of sorts that sucks up all of the discharged electricity.
A single natural lightning bolt contains at least hundreds of millioms of volts, up to billions. Unless it's been explicitly stated that the Amplivolt can raise it to that amount, it doesn't amount to anything either.
It becomes an outlier when a lot of characters in the series are barely bullet timers and mostly flounder around supersonic range until we get to the top tiers, so suddenly giving them a ridiculously immense speed upgrade due to Navel Laser or some other beam attacks, it becomes an outlier (assuming the feats are valid or correctly interpreted/described in the first place).
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Assuming Deku or someone else fought a character stated and proven to be light speed or reacted to a true light beam that’d be a different story.
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Although maybe when the anime comes that feat can be a good one if it expands more on Kaminari’s location and exactly where amplivolt it was fired from
Since I think Tesla gun electricity is Mach 1.6 it could be further supporting evidence for Supersonic+ 1-A
Also depends timeframes
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