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My Hero Academia Revisions: It's A Long One People

I finished applying all the changes to the affected profiles, but I didn't add Durability Negation to Todoroki and Dabi's profiles because unlike Endeavor they don't use attacks similar to Flashfire Fist, at least not that we know.

I added all the Quirks of All For One to Shigaraki's profile, pointing out that he is "capable" of using them, not that he has already used or will use them.
 
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Todoroki was learning Flashfire during the internship, while he hasn't shown it he should be capable of using it. So I expect that to possibly change, maybe we'll see it if Dabi and Shoto really do start fighting. If Machia has been running that slow in universe, then Dabi has had around 40 minutes to cool down.
 
Does anyone else think the AM calc May need to be redone given how long it’s been since it was last calced?
 
No I mean the one from the movie, the low 7B one

Not for any particular reason, I’m just used to AMs calcs usually needing a recall so often
 
Just gave it a quick check, there really isn't anything wrong with it that I can see.

The method used to measure the cube's size seems fine, and how he got the speed is alright as well.
 
No, Bakugo's explosions (Not including OFA) have never shown heat base feats.

Nitroglycerine heat is 5000 degrees Celsius, almost as hot as the surface of the sun. The heat from these explosions only last for a very small time and Bakugo hits everyone with them, the majority of this verse doesn't have heat resistance.
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
@Therefir shouldn’t Mirko be 7C as well? Even after the High Ends stabilised she could harm them and they were also shown taking attacks from Endeavor and continuing to fight.
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What? Mirko herself stated that she couldn't land hits anymore after they barely stabilized, and I said barely because according to the Doctor Hood took ten hours to fully stabilize.

Not to mention that Ryukyu would also be 7-C, even when she got knock out by a 7-C attack from a considerable distance.

Endeavor easily one-shotted every Nomu he fought, the Nomu that was sent flying by the attack was just for show.
 
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Not being able to hit them doesn’t translate to AP that’s speed. That also doesn’t disprove that we blatantly see the High Ends survive blows from Endeavor and keep going (and in the same fight get hurt by Mirko). He can only oneshot them when they’re quirkless and he can get their head which happens to be when they get harmed by Ryukyu (barely) even then.

Heck the only High End Endeavor killed was Woman who had no durability or AP boosting quirks unlike Tentacle or Trunk.
 
>Not being able to hit them doesn’t translate to AP that’s speed.
And how are you going to scale her from the Nomus when she couldn't even land a hit after they had stabilized a bit?

>That also doesn’t disprove that we blatantly see the High Ends survive blows from Endeavor and keep going.
Survive blows? Keep going? The first Nomu that Endeavor attacked ended up with a huge hole in his head after just a single blow, and the second Nomu that Endeavor attacked ended up with her head completely destroyed, how can you call that "surviving" blows?

>Heck the only High End Endeavor killed was Woman.
That was the same Nomu the Doctor implied was the most prepared to fight.

And you haven't responded how it takes a High-End Nomu ten hours to fully stabilize.
 
I don't think Ryukyu should scale to the High-End, she was only able to restrain it due to multiple Pro Heroes helping her. And if Hawks can stab Hood's arm and not scale, than her biting down on a High-End's arm shouldn't mean she scales either. Especially when it doesn't even look like she pierced skin.

I believe Ryukyu should go back to 8-B+.

And Mirko did injure them even after she said she couldn't land any hits.

Endeavor didn't one shot this High-End who he caught off guard, and it wasn't able to defend itself properly, like it did with Mirko. Endeavor doesn't have any reason to hold back against a talking Nomu, especially considering what happen the last time he fast one. He usually goes straight for the kill against Nomu.
 
Therefir said:
And you haven't responded how it takes a High-End Nomu ten hours to fully stabilize.
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That hasn't been stated to make them stronger though, Mirko compared stabilization to them waking up. Implying they were drowsy, which fits with them getting smarter as they began to talk more.
 
Therefir said:
>Not being able to hit them doesn’t translate to AP that’s speed.
And how are you going to scale her from the Nomus when she couldn't even land a hit after they had stabilized a bit?

>That also doesn’t disprove that we blatantly see the High Ends survive blows from Endeavor and keep going.
Survive blows? Keep going? The first Nomu that Endeavor attacked ended up with a huge hole in his head after just a single blow, and the second Nomu that Endeavor attacked ended up with her head completely destroyed, how can you call that "surviving" blows?

>Heck the only High End Endeavor killed was Woman.
That was the same Nomu the Doctor implied was the most prepared to fight.

And you haven't responded how it takes a High-End Nomu ten hours to fully stabilize.
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We literally see her take a finger off one when she’s trying to go for the doctor.

Tentacle literally gets hit by a Jet Burn and survives it then throws Mirko into Endeavor, the one with multiple mouths takes an attack earlier as well.

When did Garaki imply that?

That doesn’t really mean anything in this case. The argument isn’t Mirko scales to High Ends who scale to Hood, it’s Mirko scales to High Ends who scale to Endeavor.
 
Therefir said:
By the way, since All Might was getting weaker and weaker over time, is it really crazy to think that he was only Town level at Kamino? Maybe Endeavor and Shigaraki should just scale to that 7-C feat, instead of assuming Kamino All Might was as strong as in the first movie.
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What about Muscular though? Feels weird that he would be so much stronger than AFO.
 
>I don't think Ryukyu should scale to the High-End, she was only able to restrain it due to multiple Pro Heroes helping her. Especially when it doesn't even look like she pierced skin.
She literally drew blood from the High-End using her claws.

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But if everyone is so sure that all High-Ends are comparable to Hood then go ahead, upgrade Mirko.
 
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Also musculars qurik was used for hood. But a copy of it so that's probably why hood doesn't scale
 
I legit don't see any blood, the Nomu's skin are black so it's pretty hard to tell. Just look like she's grabbing it and it's skin is deformed by her grip.

Also why are the High-Ends even 8-A if they aren't scaling to Endeavor? The 8-A rating came from Endeavor, so they should scale to him. Hood scales above Endeavor, he overpowered him and was stated to be stronger. These High-Ends just seem to scale, which does make them weaker than Hood.

If they aren't scaling to Endeavor then Ryukyu should be 8-B+ and the High-Ends should upscale from her, which makes them baseline 8-A. As Ryukyu needed multiple pro heroes to help her in just restraining one.

Todoroki should indeed have dura negation via freezing, it should be noted what he did to the USJ Nomu on his profile as well.

Horikoshi needs to be more clear on this entire thing, and should show some more feats. But I have to say this, we didn't fix any of the issue with Shigaraki's AP by making AFO and All Might 7-C, Endeavor is still scaling to them, downscaling but scaling non the less.

Literally no different if they were Low 7-B, the only thing that changed is their rating.

Note: I agree with 7-C and I think it does work for now, but I just have a feeling this isn't going to work in the future.
 
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TheRustyOne said:
I legit don't see any blood, the Nomu's skin are black so it's pretty hard to tell. Just look like she's grabbing it and it's skin is deformed by her grip.

Also why are the High-Ends even 8-A if they aren't scaling to Endeavor? The 8-A rating came from Endeavor, so they should scale to him. Hood scales above Endeavor, he overpowered him and was stated to be stronger. These High-Ends just seem to scale, which does make them weaker than Hood.

If they aren't scaling to Endeavor then Ryukyu should be 8-B+ and the High-Ends should upscale from her, which makes them baseline 8-A. As Ryukyu needed multiple pro heroes to help her in just restraining one.

Todoroki should indeed have dura negation via freezing, it should be noted what he did to the USJ Nomu on his profile as well.

Horikoshi needs to be more clear on this entire thing, and should show some more feats. But I have to say this, we didn't fix any of the issue with Shigaraki's AP by making AFO and All Might 7-C, Endeavor is still scaling to them, downscaling but scaling non the less.

Literally no different if they were Low 7-B, the only thing that changed is their rating.

Note: I agree with 7-C and I think it does work for now, but I just have a feeling this isn't going to work in the future.
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Yeah I understand you although thankfully for now there’s way more feats that makes 7-C endeavor consistent like Canceling Out Air Canon and Taking on to the face
Let’s just hope something in future doesn’t contradict this
 
Lmao if that does happen the Kamino Keys for All might and AFO would need Upgrades since Afo stalemated endeavors Fire
What would really be shocking is if 100% Shiggy got a Mountain+ feat and then Endeavor keeps up with him anyway
 
Wait is it possible to quantify Dabi’s physical Striking strength as when he stomped on hawks face Hawks appeared to have taken damage
Even before attempting to using his fire on his face
Also against Hawks there’s another point where he coats his leg in fire and stomps on Hawks Back although you’d probably say the fire was doing everything there
 
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TheRustyOne said:
If they aren't scaling to Endeavor then Ryukyu should be 8-B+ and the High-Ends should upscale from her, which makes them baseline 8-A. As Ryukyu needed multiple pro heroes to help her in just restraining one.
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Ryukyu is scaling from Nejire who knocked down two giant villains with 83 tons in attack potency, if that's not enough to justify baseline 8-A then she should be downgraded as well.
 
I’m pretty new to MHA (only on chapter 45 rn), so sorry if this is a stupid question, but why do Todoroki, Endeavor and Kirishima have separate durability ratings against fire attacks? Or Kaminari having higher durability against electricity?
 
LordTracer said:
I’m pretty new to MHA (only on chapter 45 rn), so sorry if this is a stupid question, but why do Todoroki, Endeavor and Kirishima have separate durability ratings against fire attacks? Or Kaminari having higher durability against electricity?
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Because elemental manipulators have to be capable of withstanding the AP for their own elemental attacks in the case of Endeavor Dabi Kaminari and Shoto as when they go above what their elemental dura can handle they face the blowback
And overall Elemental Dura is separated from conventional Dura in MHA except for a few cases
Although in the case of Shoto Dabi and endeavor their flames are still capable of conventionally hurting people with standard force

and Kirishima just has heat resistance feats
 
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