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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

Well sorry to barge into the thread for no reason but I'm curious about something. In the show Death Battle do you feel like MHA was well represented in both research and character portrayal.

That's all and thanks for the time.
I only saw AM vs Guy, and frankly, them suggesting Guy needed 8th Gate in the post-game interview when the BIG tier 6 feats hadn't happened yet was way off, but I can see why they would have thought that.
 
I dunno man, it’s based on popularity. And considering Deku’s personality, accolades, and how he’ll be an active Hero with zero powers. I would not be surprised if Deku topped the charts in about a year. I mean he’s the dude who publicly beat the greatest villain of all time and he’s making a comeback despite having zero powers. That shit is gonna get attention. Also considering he became the strongest and greatest hero of all time partially due to his brains and strategy, he would also probably still be the strongest with that suit.
This is true but from my perspective deku lacks what made all might well all might. Deku despite his suit is still getting invite to different schools to do lectures. Deku in a way is similar to bakugo but different as he wouldn't scream at reporter's he would act gullible and shy and continously stammer. And just like momo stated the ranking doesn't even bother anyone anymore as it is just their. Deku would be happy doing what he loves even if he doesn't make it to number 1.

Also, I need your final input on social influencing in my thread. Two mod has already accepted it and If you need more scan I can post it as shoto would also have it via being handsome as the verse doesn't even let us forget that. Here the link.
 
Did people really think Ichigo and Rukia were ending up together? Literally the only time I thought anything other than Ichigo and Orihime was happening was when I had only seen the first episode Orihime was in.
People were in massive denial, Ichigo and Rukia barely interact after we go to Hueco Mundo
 
Went dark to avoid spoilers for the new chapter, I just read it now. Never thought I'd do this again.

Utterly amazing.

Seeing the major characters all grown up and as Pro Heroes is really great. Mirio really rocking that hair, Nejire looking lovely as always, and Amajiki is looking really good. I love the fact his hooded is also styled to look like a mouth. Mirio is No.1 like we knew and Nejire is No.7, with Amajiki still being Fat Gum's sidekick.

Uraraka having dreams of Toga. And I'll just say it now, I think Uraraka's adult design might just be my favorite out of the entire Class 1-A. I really like how Horikoshi draw character faces, you can easily tell they're no longer kids. Some anime/manga design make their "teens" look no different than adults, but MHA was never like that.

Uraraka is ranked No.24 as well, good to see. Tsu is the greatest support as always, being ranked at No.34. Uraraka's dream are obvious just based on the title of the chapter, there's still something more she wants and is ignoring it. Toga always lived her life freely so Uraraka should do the same.

Bakugo driving Kirishima and Izuku around is great, I find it very in character how proud he is about the car. Kirishima is No.12 and Bakugo went down from No.4 to 15, his personality clashes with basically anyone who tries to join him. Nice to see Fat Gum rated as No.11, he was always Top Hero material and I'm glad to see he's got a high spot.

Also, Bakugo finally got his All Might card signed. And of course Izuku is still going to be a teacher. I agree that even if he kept OFA he'd still be a teacher as well, there was no way he wasn't going to help raise the next generation just like All Might did for him.

It's interesting to see Bakugo subtlety try to get Izuku to join his agency. Also, love how nonchalant Izuku is when dealing with Bakugo now. Casually rejects Bakugo's offer as if it was the most natural thing in the world, along with him joyfully teasing him about making all of his potential sidekicks cry and give up.

Bakugo giving some words of wisdom on something Izuku's always struggled with. I wonder if that was a sublet jab at Izuku not noticing Ochako's feelings, despite the fact everyone else in the class already figured it out. He thinks so little of himself that he can't even entertain the idea someone's been crushing on him for years. Considering the special treatment line, I do think Bakugo was trying to give Izuku something to think about. Maybe not on that idea, but just to be more aware.

Nice to see Bakugo casually calling him Deku again as well, guess Izuku finally got through to him that he didn't need to force it.

All of Class 1-A is looking great and Shoto is now the No.2 Hero, which is great to see. Man, I think for the male characters Shoto's design is my favorite. It's not overly different but looks amazing. Like I said before, you can clearly tell that Shoto isn't a kid anymore just by his face. Air Conditioning Hero is exactly the title he'd come up with.

Shinso looking great as well, no ranking because he doesn't care, and NightHide is a wonderful hero name. Man is looking exactly like Aizawa and talking like him too.

Best Jeanist looking fabulous as always. Mirko... I don't trust myself to say anything non explicit so I'm stopping there. Kamui Woods is No.4 and looking more like a forest. Mount Lady, jumped all the way to No.3 and that's truly amazing. She deserves it after everything she's been through. Her mask is taking after Midnight in design.

Monoma being No.10 is also well deserved, Phantom Thief made it big.

This entire chapter is amazing. See Shoto and the others talk about desires outside of just being a hero is great. Seeing him smile so much is very heartwarming.

And the big moment I think many people have been waiting for. Although, that they have to stop a quick car jacking first. Double Page spread is amazing. Iida's basically a rocket at this point, Jiro is flying with boots (Help with Zero Gravity?), Sero is Spider-Man, and Izuku suiting up.

But moving on, the dream Ochako's been having and Izuku mulling over Bakugo's words. Both connect to each other and the title of the chapter. Of course, Ochako's still bottling her feelings up and Izuku's been missing something obvious for quiet some time.

I think the "confession" Izuku gives is really cute and fits how awkward he becomes around her. And Toga pushing Uraraka forward to live her life freely is great to see. Her getting pushed into Izuku is way too cute and I'm glad to see them finally get together after years of build up.

Despite "fulfilling" their dreams, both of them still wanting something more.

Although, I don't think Izuku ever realized Uraraka was crushing on him for over eight years. Our boy is going to be devastated and embarrassed for the rest of his life if she tells him that. And watch everyone in class sigh in relief seeing them finally get together, since pretty much everyone already knew there was something there.

Can't wait to break down in tears when I see all of this again in Season 8, it's going to be amazing.

Chapter 430 was a great ending for the MHA series. But Chapter 431 is an amazing ending for our main characters.
 
Went dark to avoid spoilers for the new chapter, I just read it now. Never thought I'd do this again.

Utterly amazing.

Seeing the major characters all grown up and as Pro Heroes is really great. Mirio really rocking that hair, Nejire looking lovely as always, and Amajiki is looking really good. I love the fact his hooded is also styled to look like a mouth. Mirio is No.1 like we knew and Nejire is No.7, with Amajiki still being Fat Gum's sidekick.

Uraraka having dreams of Toga. And I'll just say it now, I think Uraraka's adult design might just be my favorite out of the entire Class 1-A. I really like how Horikoshi draw character faces, you can easily tell they're no longer kids. Some anime/manga design make their "teens" look no different than adults, but MHA was never like that.

Uraraka is ranked No.24 as well, good to see. Tsu is the greatest support as always, being ranked at No.34. Uraraka's dream are obvious just based on the title of the chapter, there's still something more she wants and is ignoring it. Toga always lived her life freely so Uraraka should do the same.

Bakugo driving Kirishima and Izuku around is great, I find it very in character how proud he is about the car. Kirishima is No.12 and Bakugo went down from No.4 to 15, his personality clashes with basically anyone who tries to join him. Nice to see Fat Gum rated as No.11, he was always Top Hero material and I'm glad to see he's got a high spot.

Also, Bakugo finally got his All Might card signed. And of course Izuku is still going to be a teacher. I agree that even if he kept OFA he'd still be a teacher as well, there was no way he wasn't going to help raise the next generation just like All Might did for him.

It's interesting to see Bakugo subtlety try to get Izuku to join his agency. Also, love how nonchalant Izuku is when dealing with Bakugo now. Casually rejects Bakugo's offer as if it was the most natural thing in the world, along with him joyfully teasing him about making all of his potential sidekicks cry and give up.

Bakugo giving some words of wisdom on something Izuku's always struggled with. I wonder if that was a sublet jab at Izuku not noticing Ochako's feelings, despite the fact everyone else in the class already figured it out. He thinks so little of himself that he can't even entertain the idea someone's been crushing on him for years. Considering the special treatment line, I do think Bakugo was trying to give Izuku something to think about. Maybe not on that idea, but just to be more aware.

Nice to see Bakugo casually calling him Deku again as well, guess Izuku finally got through to him that he didn't need to force it.

All of Class 1-A is looking great and Shoto is now the No.2 Hero, which is great to see. Man, I think for the male characters Shoto's design is my favorite. It's not overly different but looks amazing. Like I said before, you can clearly tell that Shoto isn't a kid anymore just by his face. Air Conditioning Hero is exactly the title he'd come up with.

Shinso looking great as well, no ranking because he doesn't care, and NightHide is a wonderful hero name. Man is looking exactly like Aizawa and talking like him too.

Best Jeanist looking fabulous as always. Mirko... I don't trust myself to say anything non explicit so I'm stopping there. Kamui Woods is No.4 and looking more like a forest. Mount Lady, jumped all the way to No.3 and that's truly amazing. She deserves it after everything she's been through. Her mask is taking after Midnight in design.

Monoma being No.10 is also well deserved, Phantom Thief made it big.

This entire chapter is amazing. See Shoto and the others talk about desires outside of just being a hero is great. Seeing him smile so much is very heartwarming.

And the big moment I think many people have been waiting for. Although, that they have to stop a quick car jacking first. Double Page spread is amazing. Iida's basically a rocket at this point, Jiro is flying with boots (Help with Zero Gravity?), Sero is Spider-Man, and Izuku suiting up.

But moving on, the dream Ochako's been having and Izuku mulling over Bakugo's words. Both connect to each other and the title of the chapter. Of course, Ochako's still bottling her feelings up and Izuku's been missing something obvious for quiet some time.

I think the "confession" Izuku gives is really cute and fits how awkward he becomes around her. And Toga pushing Uraraka forward to live her life freely is great to see. Her getting pushed into Izuku is way too cute and I'm glad to see them finally get together after years of build up.

Despite "fulfilling" their dreams, both of them still wanting something more.

Although, I don't think Izuku ever realized Uraraka was crushing on him for over eight years. Our boy is going to be devastated and embarrassed for the rest of his life if she tells him that. And watch everyone in class sigh in relief seeing them finally get together, since pretty much everyone already knew there was something there.

Can't wait to break down in tears when I see all of this again in Season 8, it's going to be amazing.

Chapter 430 was a great ending for the MHA series. But Chapter 431 is an amazing ending for our main characters.
TBH... Might be one of the best Shonen endings of all time

It really wrapped up everything in a nice little bow, tho I do hope we get a 5th Movie that takes place with Suited Up Deku
 
If we do, possibly, get a 5th movie or some kind of sequel series, you think they might expand upon the possibility of Toga's Quirk vestige transferring to Ochako?

It's unlikely, but if they do... damn.
 
Not really, going off by DB’s scaling… ☠️
Death Battle scaling had 2 major flaws, first that Asta dodging mirror magic in his sleep, Mirror magic =/= light magic. Second Asta rolled over before Gauche attacked him.

The only credible instance of light speed reaction in Black Clover is when Asta deflected light magic (chapter 199) when he was in Black Asta form.....at this point this would at best put Black Asta on the same level as Star and Stripe or anyone who scales to her

Now to be fair this is pre time skip but we know Deku can blitz Shigaraki (who's faster than Star) 5x over which is something Asta doesn't have a comparable speed feat to.
 
Do you guys think 8 year gap was a little tooo long ? Like I can understand 4-5 year gap and not much has changed in like 2-3 years after UA ends but 8 Years is a very long time for not much to change when you consider they were teenagers last we saw them. Maybe we will get more in novels or stuff.

I recently saw Superman and Lois's ending. It was heart touching seeing Gramps Superman and his peaceful death (unlike most stories where his immortality turns his life into hell)

I was wondering if this is it for My Hero. No sequels, prequels or spinoffs. Will we ever know what happens to Deku and gang after this ? How All Might passes away ? Quirk singularity ? There is so much to explore. I hope someone even if it's not Hori can make use of the world building done by MHA. Even if it's a different genre.

I know stories end, and I don't mind that but rarely do I have this many questions of what next could have happened because how young the characters are in the ending and how much more of the world there is to explore.

It's not like RDR2 or AOT where everyone is dead. Or Demon Slayer where there is nothing to do after the main story. Aww man I am gonna miss MHA for all it's flaws (and the eldritch entity that is the fanbase), it was still a inspiring story.
 
Do you guys think 8 year gap was a little tooo long ? Like I can understand 4-5 year gap and not much has changed in like 2-3 years after UA ends but 8 Years is a very long time for not much to change when you consider they were teenagers last we saw them. Maybe we will get more in novels or stuff.
Well, I think a lot did change. It's just that the state they were going forward from wasn't especially good. Rebuilding takes a while, and moving to some society with less focus on heroes took longer because of the need for them in that time, and the perceptions that and the war shapes.

Unless you meant like, in terms of development or something, because idk on that.
 
Well, I think a lot did change. It's just that the state they were going forward from wasn't especially good. Rebuilding takes a while, and moving to some society with less focus on heroes took longer because of the need for them in that time, and the perceptions that and the war shapes.

Unless you meant like, in terms of development or something, because idk on that.
I mean characters. 1-A. Aside from Shoto being more open with his feelings no one has changed as much. Also I don't understand the sudden distance between Ochako and Deku.

They have each others contact since Stain arc. Like did they just never see each other Post Graduation ? No catching up on coffee or anything ? Don't give me they are busy excuse because it's not like they had full time jobs after just getting out of College.

No one ever met them during those 8 years. Japan's most legendary hero in equal to Status with All Might and a popular hero / Organization manager are just alone for 5 years. And both do have time on their hand and constantly meet new people around their age. No Villain attacked Deku ? No new best friends ?

Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike the ending or anything, It's just that Horikoshi did not take into account how insanely long 8 years are and how much can happen.
 
There are no problems with the time skip...actually, I mean what you're talking about. You just don't understand the characters, if you can't accept it, well that's your problem.

Izuku himself is pretending he doesn't care, as Bakugo said he doesn't give any thoughts to himself. Uraraka is too busy hiding her feelings while focusing on their jobs. She lacked the courage to actually come out and say anything, she could've easily asked to speak to Izuku alone anytime but was holding off.

She convinced herself that what she has is already enough and that she shouldn't want more. Izuku was convinced he was alright as well, he didn't need anything more.

Funnily enough, it took Bakugo saying something for Izuku to start acting on his own feelings. Honestly, if left alone I don't think Uraraka would've made any progress herself. She only remembered what "Toga" said in her dream after she saw Izuku running towards her.

It's really as simple as that. You're the one not taking into account these people are different from what you have in your head.

You claim nothing changed when that isn't true, you're just not seeing what you wanted to see.
 
I’m honestly satisfied with the plot. Deku and Uraraka getting some kind of resolution was the only thing left the story NEEDED to address. There’s always gonna be more questions when a series comes to an end, but I feel like Horikoshi answered most of them compared to other mangaka. He really followed up and concluded every plot line as best he could.

If this is the last we see of MHA, then I’d be fine with it. I’m good. If we get more, that’d be dope, but I don’t NEED more. One last movie that covers something after the final battle with Shigaraki would be sick and a nice one last hoorah, but otherwise, MHA has been wrapped up in a nice little bow… Unlike JJK…
 
8 Years boy. Do you understand how many hours in 8 years ? Ever heard of Third Party intervention. Meeting new people ?
Oh right, calc group.

You are seeing what you want to see.
Bro saw a direct 1-to-1 summary of the chapter and went "ummm, it's a long time tho? Also you're a bitch and don't understand the series because... you're good at math?"
 
There are no problems with the time skip...actually, I mean what you're talking about. You just don't understand the characters, if you can't accept it, well that's your problem.

Izuku himself is pretending he doesn't care, as Bakugo said he doesn't give any thoughts to himself. Uraraka is too busy hiding her feelings while focusing on their jobs. She lacked the courage to actually come out and say anything, she could've easily asked to speak to Izuku alone anytime but was holding off.

She convinced herself that what she has is already enough and that she shouldn't want more. Izuku was convinced he was alright as well, he didn't need anything more.

Funnily enough, it took Bakugo saying something for Izuku to start acting on his own feelings. Honestly, if left alone I don't think Uraraka would've made any progress herself. She only remembered what "Toga" said in her dream after she saw Izuku running towards her.

It's really as simple as that. You're the one not taking into account these people are different from what you have in your head.

You claim nothing changed when that isn't true, you're just not seeing what you wanted to see.
Another thing I liked is how Bakugo's anger was fully justified this chapter. Negative thoughts on cars aside, that shit looked expensive.
 
Death Battle scaling had 2 major flaws, first that Asta dodging mirror magic in his sleep, Mirror magic =/= light magic. Second Asta rolled over before Gauche attacked him.

The only credible instance of light speed reaction in Black Clover is when Asta deflected light magic (chapter 199) when he was in Black Asta form.....at this point this would at best put Black Asta on the same level as Star and Stripe or anyone who scales to her

Now to be fair this is pre time skip but we know Deku can blitz Shigaraki (who's faster than Star) 5x over which is something Asta doesn't have a comparable speed feat to.
Honestly, chain-scaling get Current Asta WAYYY faster than 5x SoL, so…

Also, unrelated but there’s now a scan of when Deku split the cloud over Japan in his final smash. Visual makes the punch look even more powerful too! Wonder if it can be used to update the calc… 👀
 
My thoughts on OP speed scaling has nothing to do with how BC characters scale with speed
I’m just saying using that logic on only BC makes no sense when that can easily be applied to several other verses…


Hell, Iida would only be transonic-supersonic… ☠️
 
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Something I think nobody has pointed out is that Iida has a line where he says the criteria for the Hero Rankings keeps becoming more complex and fragmented, meaning it shouldn't be taken at face value anymore

This is lowkey Horikoshi being like "The Hero Rankings don't actually mean anything for the quality of a Hero guys"
 
I’m just saying using that logic on only BC makes no sense when that can easily be applied to several other verses…


Hell, Iida would only be transonic-supersonic… ☠️
It is far more complicated in BC’s case. Read their recent downgrade thread for the full context.
 
Something I think nobody has pointed out is that Iida has a line where he says the criteria for the Hero Rankings keeps becoming more complex and fragmented, meaning it shouldn't be taken at face value anymore

This is lowkey Horikoshi being like "The Hero Rankings don't actually mean anything for the quality of a Hero guys"
Nonsense Wash is top 10 of the verse🫡🔥🔥🗣🗣
 
Hero ranking is more so celebrity ranking more than Power now. Popularity and public perception is more defining than cases solved or power. Which is why the strongest UA student of the war who took down isn't even in top 10 while the guy who could only twerk at Shigaraki is the No.1.

I had a question, sine it was the sheer oppressive power of All Might that ended Organized crime, do you think now it's back in Japan. The Yakuza and stuff. Socitey reforms don't really stop white collar crime syndicates.
 
Hero ranking is more so celebrity ranking more than Power now. Popularity and public perception is more defining than cases solved or power. Which is why the strongest UA student of the war who took down isn't even in top 10 while the guy who could only twerk at Shigaraki is the No.1.
True, but ngl, I do think Mirio's power might have skyrocketed at least a bit.
I had a question, sine it was the sheer oppressive power of All Might that ended Organized crime, do you think now it's back in Japan. The Yakuza and stuff. Socitey reforms don't really stop white collar crime syndicates.
I don't think so. The old boss of Shie Hassaikai woke up from his coma and went "Our ability to do crime ended and I hate you, my beloved son" or something to Overhual, and I think that was hinting at a general tendency.

Hell, the only other known crime family in the WORLD was Dark Might's iirc.
 
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True, but ngl, I do think Mirio's power might have skyrocketed at least a bit.

I don't think so. The old boss of Shie Hassaikai woke up from his coma and went "Crime ended and I hate you, my beloved son" or something to Overhual, and I think that was hinting at that.
"Crime ended"
Just after a nation tearing war that caused wide spread poverty, hard access for authority who are busy dealing with big criminals, government reforms and desperate population. Yeah, no. Japan would such a breeding ground for criminals post war that The Penguin would move there to sell drugs because Gotham would be tame in comparison.

Even a Genie can't grant you a better opportunity to start a Crime syndicate.

Which does make me think, how does crime even work in MHA ? Crimes like chain/purse snatching, mugging stores, kidnapping, any crimes targeting who you see on the street alone basically is Russian Roulette with your life especially with Emitter and transformation quirks. You don't know if the lady you are going rob can just bend her wrist 360 degrees or has super sharp whip hair that can cut you in half.

Imagine trying to kidnap a 12 year old and he turns your insides into mixed fruit juice, or rob a store and the cashier shoots Plasma beams from his eyes that track you down.

Hell if you think about it, weak dictatorships in the first -second quirk age would get fu**ed and strong people might take over whole countries.
 
"Crime ended"
Just after a nation tearing war that caused wide spread poverty, hard access for authority who are busy dealing with big criminals, government reforms and desperate population. Yeah, no. Japan would such a breeding ground for criminals post war that The Penguin would move there to sell drugs because Gotham would be tame in comparison.
Yeah, I fleshed out the hyperbolic portions of the statement more in my edit, lol.

Frankly, we already had that Kamile guy from the Gollini family, that's enough mob-based criminals that look like penguins.
Which does make me think, how does crime even work in MHA ? Crimes like chain/purse snatching, mugging stores, kidnapping, any crimes targeting who you see on the street alone basically is Russian Roulette with your life especially with Emitter and transformation quirks. You don't know if the lady you are going rob can just bend her wrist 360 degrees or has super sharp whip hair that can cut you in half.
Imagine trying to kidnap a 12 year old and he turns your insides into mixed fruit juice, or rob a store and the cashier shoots Plasma beams from his eyes that track you down.
TRUE.
Hell if you think about it, weak dictatorships in the first -second quirk age would get fu**ed and strong people might take over whole countries.
A lot of dictators use sneaky means irl too. Plus, if they have guns, they can kill anyone weaker than a hero.

Wait, I thought Shoto and Bakugo beat Dictator?
 
A lot of dictators use sneaky means irl too. Plus, if they have guns, they can kill anyone weaker than a hero.
To some point yes. But it just takes a Squad of rebels with decently good quirks to kill a Dictator.

And it only takes one extremely powerful guy to conquer a nation. Like imagine high population countries like China and India, the amount of people are so high that the chances of Continent leveling quirks is in 1000's. Just a few of them to be warlords.

I have an idea. A MHA sequel with Quirk Doomsday theory front and center. So hear me out.

600 Years After the Paranormal Liberation war. Quirks have grown extremely strong. Too the point that modern military gear is ineffective against the above average quirk users, the peak of the superhuman world far surpass any hero or villain in history.

And thus democratic governments started to become irrelevant. There were heroes who did their best to stop the take over. But for each hero, there were 10 warlords who wanted to be the next Alexander. Their battles grew in scale, entire cities destroyed trying to just stop 1.

But the most important change that happened is that evolution, caught up to quirks. Through human blood getting into the food chain via mosquitos, repeated exposure awakened quirks among most multicellular beings in the world (we know animals can have quirks as Nezu does). While smaller animals didn't see that many changes with their lower cell counts. Bigger mammals, reptiles and fishes evolved drastically.

While Animals do not have complicated or diverse quirks like humans do, due to mostly spawning from one male in the region and inbreeding, they have quirks pressured by natural selection to be optimized at killing or surviving. Animals with such might and ferocity that it made the Triassic ages look tame. This changes meant that there was utterly nothing stopping animals from trying to hunt humans. Thus civilians using their own quirks for combat against beasts.

The world degraded into a Modern-Neolithic society. Warlords with extremely strong quirks were the new government and the people had to live under them for protection from beasts. Or Small separatist colonies who were in groups with some capable fighters to keep beasts away but small enough to not warrant the attention of Warlords.

This is where our story starts.
 
Also, unrelated but there’s now a scan of when Deku split the cloud over Japan in his final smash. Visual makes the punch look even more powerful too! Wonder if it can be used to update the calc… 👀

Any of you mods seen this yet?
 
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