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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

Also, unrelated but there’s now a scan of when Deku split the cloud over Japan in his final smash. Visual makes the punch look even more powerful too! Wonder if it can be used to update the calc… 👀

🤔 It's still hard to tell if this yellow line is meant to be the entire height of the storm or if it is the green line, or it may be even higher up the panel for all we know.
 
I wonder if they add a bigger shot in the anime. Like from up above or very far away.
 

Garou vs Deku thread
 
Last Ember - Some strong escapee villain.

Armored Deku - International team up to bring down a global threat.
 
is the manga actually finished or no..? Like I'm Starting to get confused 🙉 thought it finished when deku lost his powers and become an MC worker with a different haircut 😅
 
I had a question. If Shigaraki killed Asui in USJ. Would Deku still try to save him ?
Ignoring the butterfly effect of such an action and just assume it ends up leading to a similar Final War?

Yes he would, Izuku's emotions run hot at the moment of an event but by the Final War he'll be capable of controlling himself. Tomura has killed many people in canon, one more death isn't going to change his mind even if it hits him more personally. I think replacing Asui with Bakugo would give a more curious question.

It'd hard to say what Izuku would've done if Bakugo had actually been killed, as I said his emotions run hot in the moment. I still believe Mirio would talk him down to avoid him making a sloppy mistake, but I can see his mental state being changed enough to make him more vicious than in canon.

He might still reach out for him in the end though, I can see that happening.

The butterfly effect is obvious, with Asui dead I imagine Izuku actually does use 100% against Tomura and breaks his arm when Nomu blocks it. All Might is maybe more pissed off than normal but the fight plays the same. Besides the obvious change, the only difference is that one of Izuku's arm is broken along with his legs.

The issue is that I highly doubt U.A. can keep functioning normally at this point. A death of a student is a massive deal, especially when it happens on school grounds. I imagine Shirakumo's death was easier to get by since it happened during Work Studies and outside of school. It also helped that he was a second year student.

Asui is a first year who hasn't even attended school for one week, and was killed by villains on U.A. propriety. There's no way the school could recover from that, even All Might could get flack since he was suppose to be there as the official schedule does list him to be at the USJ.

I'm sure Nezu will try to hide it but the media will find that schedule and they'll question why All Might wasn't there like he was suppose to be. Either one of the students will leak it naturally or AFO will have Aoyama do it. This is a massive shift from the original story that I cannot really get further into without writing up an entire book.

All I can say is that there is no way the Sports Festival will happen. There was already talks of shutting it down just from the canon USJ attack, while nothing actually happened, having an actual death will instantly chop that event. Also, Izuku and Mineta are left horribly traumatized from watching Asui disintegrate in front of them.

Note: One more thing actually. Inko will without question remove Izuku from the school, I don't see her budging from that this time. She almost did it just because of what happened in the training camp and Kamino. I imagine other parents might considered or will actually remove their kids as well.
 
Good question is what would change if Toga bottled up her instincts for a year longer and chose to join the hero course to become a hero (RIP invisible girl, you don't get into U.A.)
 
I don't see Toga joining the Hero Course or going anywhere near U.A. if she's still suppressing her emotions. She's trying to avoid blood and being a Pro Hero would put a bunch of blood in front of her. The only way I see that happening is if her parents forced her to do it for some reason.

So I'll assume that is the case and she does replace Hagakure.

The biggest reason Toga broke was seeing Saito bloody and bruised from fighting. Assuming this never happened, I imagine she'll snap when Izuku breaks his finger during the ball throw. He looks identical to her first crush and now he's bleeding. Either she loses it and tires to attack him right there or she jumps him later in the day.

Even assuming the former, Aizawa stops her and Bakugo at the same time before they can even reach Izuku. Unless Toga really loses it and can't hold back for a second, I don't think anything happens at this point. Aizawa didn't really give a damn that Bakugo tried to assault Izuku so I doubt he'd question why Toga did it as well.

She might still jump him later on though. If the former happened Izuku would be wary about her and wonder why she charged him. If she's able to calm down enough she could either try to get closer to Izuku or avoid him, likely the latter considering she never had the courage to approach Saito at all.

Can't really go much into this without making a book as I've said, this is a massive change after all. The best outcome for Toga here is that she has a breakdown at school ground so the teachers can handle her. They won't toss her out for being unable to control herself and will likely try to help her come to term with her feelings and Quirk.

Her parents would be annoying about it regardless, but the school won't throw her out for it and I imagine they'd just let them do whatever with her.

Although a better outcome is her going up and talking to Izuku. He would initially be freaked out but I highly doubt he'd judge her for that. Heck, considering his curiosity he might let Toga drink his blood so he can see her Quirk.

If he offers his blood I imagine Toga would have her own breakdown crying moment like Izuku did when All Might said he can be a hero. After all Izuku would've just smashed through her greatest fear that she kept bottled up inside of her for so many years like it was nothing.

Sadly, unless Izuku and Toga have a moment before the exam to talk, I extremely doubt she'd be willing to go up to him and ask to drink his blood.
 
Good question is what would change if Toga bottled up her instincts for a year longer and chose to join the hero course to become a hero (RIP invisible girl, you don't get into U.A.)
She becomes the Shinso of Class 1-B and Vlad King teaches her about blood or whatever.
 
The reason I am asking Asui being killed is because that was like a 1 second delay scenario in canon. And since it's so early on where Deku hasn't developed his ideals yet, this might massively change him and his approach towards Villains. I know it will change the story massively, that's the point of a what if.

If his first interaction with a villain is such a horrible one, I can see him developing into a very different hero. In canon up until the first war, Deku really doesn't have any personal vendetta against Shigaraki. Reading about people dying on a newspaper vs watching your classmate 1 meter away getting dusted are totally different thing.

Unlike the Bakugo situation where it happens quickly, this one gives a very early Deku time to think after All Might chases them away.

And this turns the Initial League of villains from a clown squad that got crushed by 15 year olds to straight up National Enemy No.1 with public demanding Tomura's arrest and execution and the police force mobilizing a lot earlier.

Plus a event like this might just shake hero socitey enough to crush the growing villain side like Stain and Overhaul. Hell I wonder how Tomura's meeting with Stain might go after that.

UA hero course will only have a few students remaining. But Izuku leaving UA is pointless. AFO already knows he is the 9th from his punch against the Nomu. The sports festival maybe cooked but Deku will grow a lot stronger and lot quicker.

There is the motivation of Asui's death and All Might coming to the conclusion of AFO being alive and Izuku's life being under threat.

All Might might be able to convince Inko to let him stay, especially since he hasn't lost his power at this time. And Izuku will want to go back espically since Asui was like right next to him and he will blame himself partly. I can see him wanting to grow stronger and be a better hero because of that.

The dorm system will be implemented very early on. I can see some parents taking out their kids and some students leaving on their own. Mineta, Kaminari, Mina, Koda, Jiro maybe, Ochako's parents might remove her even if she wants to stay.

Class B might has some drop outs too which might lead to a class merger with the remaining students.

If there is a mall encounter in this scenario I can see Izuku being a lot less scared and lot more pissed of at Shigaraki.
 
If there is a mall encounter in this scenario I can see Izuku being a lot less scared and lot more pissed of at Shigaraki.
I was gonna bring this up.

The mall encounter has Deku AND Uraraka in the same place, Shiggy might be ******. That levitated debris + Shoot Style combo would go crazy.
 
I was gonna bring this up.

The mall encounter has Deku AND Uraraka in the same place, Shiggy might be ******. That levitated debris + Shoot Style combo would go crazy.
Shoot style is developed after the Muscular fight. And it's not like Deku couldn't turn Shigaraki into a ballistic dummy test with a finger flick at the time. It's just a minor problem of Shigaraki's hand being on his throat. And being surrounded by civilians
 
Shoot style is developed after the Muscular fight. And it's not like Deku couldn't turn Shigaraki into a ballistic dummy test with a finger flick at the time. It's just a minor problem of Shigaraki's hand being on his throat. And being surrounded by civilians
I know, I just figured that since, in your hypothetical, Deku was training to beat Shigaraki, he would develop a long-range attack method, and I'm pretty sure Shiggy canonically left when Uraraka popped up(what are we, some kind of 8-A villain?)
 
I know, I just figured that since, in your hypothetical, Deku was training to beat Shigaraki, he would develop a long-range attack method, and I'm pretty sure Shiggy canonically left when Uraraka popped up(what are we, some kind of 8-A villain?)
I am pretty sure the flicks are his long range weapon. With the gloves. The kicks where more of a necessary replacement so he doesn't become permanently limp. Hell since he is developing faster, he might never enough suffer permanent damage in the story like he doesn't in the War as his body is stronger.

On that note, which fictional teacher would be the best for Goku. Like really bring out the best fighter in him. I would go with Baki Hanma.
 
"Many years later, as he faced the firing squad, Colonel Aureliano Buendía was to remember that distant afternoon when his father took him to discover ice"
 
On that note, which fictional teacher would be the best for Goku. Like really bring out the best fighter in him. I would go with Baki Hanma.
Since you meant Deku, I'll go ahead and say Meliadoul Amy from Mashle. Deku would get a training regiment that would allow him to cover not only his weaknesses and go against opponents with a wide variety of abilities, he would get massively stronger, and would be able to use both his musculature and skeletal systems at maximum efficiency.
 
Since you meant Deku, I'll go ahead and say Meliadoul Amy from Mashle. Deku would get a training regiment that would allow him to cover not only his weaknesses and go against opponents with a wide variety of abilities, he would get massively stronger, and would be able to use both his musculature and skeletal systems at maximum efficiency.
Ah yes good choice. I chose Baki because he can not only do all that but actually teach Deku how to fight and not just brawl. Knowing Baki he would get Deku to use Black Whip and make a titan out of it.
 
Ah yes good choice. I chose Baki because he can not only do all that but actually teach Deku how to fight and not just brawl. Knowing Baki he would get Deku to use Black Whip and make a titan out of it.
I mean, yeah, Meliadoul also teaches one how to fight? She herself is a fighter, and helped better Mash, who's also a fighter.
 
Ah yes good choice. I chose Baki because he can not only do all that but actually teach Deku how to fight and not just brawl. Knowing Baki he would get Deku to use Black Whip and make a titan out of it.
Is Baki shown to be a good teacher, akin to characters like Doppo? I'm still on Son of Ogre.
 
Is Baki shown to be a good teacher, akin to characters like Doppo? I'm still on Son of Ogre.
Not quite, I haven't read Baki Dou but I don't remember him taking a student. But he doesn't have to. Deku can learn by just watching and Baki can explain his techniques very well.
 
Not quite, I haven't read Baki Dou but I don't remember him taking a student. But he doesn't have to. Deku can learn by just watching and Baki can explain his techniques very well.
I think he can, yeah, but a lot of Baki techniques are heavily centered around the verse mechanics of Baki. Like, Deku can't just turn his bones into jelly to run like a cockroach.
 
I think he can, yeah, but a lot of Baki techniques are heavily centered around the verse mechanics of Baki. Like, Deku can't just turn his bones into jelly to run like a cockroach.
Not quite. Baki isn't actually turning water. It's just visualization. Yuujiro even calls it out

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Not quite. Baki isn't actually turning water. It's just visualization. Yuujiro even calls it out

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Yujiro in the same chapter explains that saying the names takes away their power, because one should not say the names of their attacks, but if you really attack with confidence, the attacks will have the effects of the names.
 
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