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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18
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how many did you hit Maitreya with in the past few hours? I didn't bother to read through the read
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I gave my final comment yesterday.
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Wouldn’t this map provide a proper way to estimate Bakugou’s speed from crossing all those kilometers to the Final Battle?
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We already knew the location and distance. The manga gave us this same map.
Timeframe is unknown making it impossible. No, we cannot say he got there in seconds or something.
Izuku and Tomura had been fighting at Fuji for awhile. We don't know when Bakugo woke up and decided to fly over there.
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NoI've been lurking recently. Is the "VSBATTLES" current meta to use anime over manga, and rely on anime-only sequences or information?
I'm a bit surprised to see it referenced and used this much
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"They're faster than speeding bullets!"
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Probably like many times faster than sound or something like that
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"They are incredibly fast!" Legitimately that's just the kind of person Horikoshi seems to be. If he knew of powerscaling he'd think most of the cast are subsonic, transonic to supersonic mid-tiers and Hypersonic god-tiers. Certainly I don't think he'd ever imagine his characters being anywhere near even rel+ or higher.
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That right here is the most likely answer.
The vast majority of authors refrain from giving direct statements of their characters abilities. Regardless of what happens or said in the series itself. Since power scaling, beyond who'd beat who, or stats in general isn't a priority in most author's mind. They'd stay vague and say the most obvious statements.
Sometimes you can get something, but I assure you it'd be far lower than what we got here.
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Dyspo has surpassed the speed of sound and light
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Mha characters in universe see beyond Mach 1 is impressive and breaking concrete walls is also impressive, all for one telling incomplete Shigaraki he'd die from fall damage and more funny things like this
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Wasn't Android 17 or Gohan or someone i don't remember like using the sound of footsteps to fight or something like that. Most authors just don't think of scaling like we do.
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Look, if you've played a SoulsBorne, gravity is the most powerful enemy
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Unless they're the writer of that instant death series. Then they frequent the wiki and try to come up with the most annoying character ever
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Giga Hyperversal / Boundless game character vs Pit with spikes.
It's always hilarious to watch Kratos fanboys meltdown when I pull out the list of 200 antifeats.
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I'm never going to let it down that Endeavor has higher Power and Speed ratings compared to Hood in the data book, despite him being weaker and slower than Hood.
Ochako's B- rank power, while Momo's power rank is D.
Even if you want to say Quirks, why is Ochako's power rated by her dropping heavy stuff? While Momo's rating is not for her ability to make cannons?
The ranks are either not thought out at all, or were never meant to be compared to anyone else. Making them worthless. I've tried on multiple occasions and many restrictions to make the rankings work. But nothing about them can actually work and are complete useless.
Gang Orca having a B in power while Tiger is A is just as absurd.Let's upgrade everyone who scales to 8% to 5% up to High 7-C.
Ochako's B- rank power, while Momo's power rank is D.
Even if you want to say Quirks, why is Ochako's power rated by her dropping heavy stuff? While Momo's rating is not for her ability to make cannons?
The ranks are either not thought out at all, or were never meant to be compared to anyone else. Making them worthless. I've tried on multiple occasions and many restrictions to make the rankings work. But nothing about them can actually work and are complete useless.
Gang Orca having a B in power while Tiger is A is just as absurd.
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Gang Orca at what point in time, though?
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Ultra Analysis was a bit after the Liberation Army Arc, I think during the Endeavor Agency Arc, so his second key scaling wouldn't exist for a long time.
The pictures used is from his appearance in the Licensing Exam Arc, where he is High 7-C.
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I mean, they both shat on Deku, is there any inconsistency with my lad being stronger than my other lad?
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Tiger scales to Magne, who scales to Chisaki as he took a direct hit from her to the head (With her Weapon + Quirk as well), which would scale to Mirio and 8% Izuku.
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True.
This is the first time ever I've seen someone use an anime-expanded version of a manga scene in powerscaling.
TheRustyOne is truly revolutionary.
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The bloody hell does this mean?
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Duh… that you’re a Mensch, a real man amongst men, a trailblazing visionar—
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These our are canon rules, which have been around way before me. So I don't see the need to call me out as anything.
The anime is considered tertiary canon, meaning it can be used as long as there is no contradiction to the source material and the primary or secondary canon can't be used. Anime original scenes are big no, which includes both feats and new information as well. But timeframes or explanations on how a feat was performed is okay.
Also I have to ask, how much of the anime are we using? Note that using the anime over the manga isn't happening here to my knowledge.
The movies aren't the anime, they're considered primary canon like the manga. Just leaving that there in case anyone ask, yeah I'm going to try to update that again when I can. There is more information about the other movies and other stuff for the 4th movie will likely come out in the future.
The anime is considered tertiary canon, meaning it can be used as long as there is no contradiction to the source material and the primary or secondary canon can't be used. Anime original scenes are big no, which includes both feats and new information as well. But timeframes or explanations on how a feat was performed is okay.
Also I have to ask, how much of the anime are we using? Note that using the anime over the manga isn't happening here to my knowledge.
The movies aren't the anime, they're considered primary canon like the manga. Just leaving that there in case anyone ask, yeah I'm going to try to update that again when I can. There is more information about the other movies and other stuff for the 4th movie will likely come out in the future.
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Hey Rusty.
Yeah I tried using Ultra Analysis to upscale and downscale characters but it makes no sense. For power you can say that Endeavor's fire power exceeds Hood but the speed rating is whack.
I will try to do as much as I can in Movie 4 because I am hyped for it.
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It's all whack. I've tried for a long time, but it's never worked.
Geten and Dabi are only B in power. I can see Dabi's rating being lower as he's hiding his strength.
But even in the Hawks Villain Report, which is a small update that came out during the Final War Arc, it still list Dabi's power as B and his speed at C.
Despite the fact Horikoshi changed some other rankings for the villains, but kept Dabi's the same is hilarious, and tells me everything I need to know about these rankings.
Note: Dark Might is going to need to bring some serious abilities if he wants to be a threat to just Final War Arc Izuku, let alone with everyone else's help. Even just being on Prime All Might's level physically isn't enough by itself, we already saw how Izuku deals with people like that. All For Shiggy can attest to that.
So I imagine things will get very crazy.
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I mean, 10% is High 7-C, I don't see why 8% should be drastically below it. Plus, Mirio is stronger than 8% iirc.
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That scales to everyone my friend. And Mirio is comparable to 8%, even if we say he's stronger overall.
The several times multiplier of Twin Impact means characters all the way from Mineta will have some kind of High 7-C rating. Which is obviously a massive outlier for the verse. And the several times multiplier is from the primary canon, while the data book is only secondary canon, meaning we drop that before we drop the multiplier.
OFA's percentages are not linear, as such we cannot treat them as such regardless. The gap from any percentage to 100% should make that clear by itself.
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Cool, but what if Tiger was stronger because I like him more?
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Glad you've accepted it.
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