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I'm doing a lot of stuff right now.
So this is going to take some time. Not like months or anything, maybe a week or two at most? Please take it easy on me.
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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18
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So this is going to take some time. Not like months or anything, maybe a week or two at most? Please take it easy on me.
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Possibly Lifting Strength upgrade for 8% Izuku. Class K
Since the steel beam Izuku caught was propelled down by Gentle's constant bouncing, I calculated the amount of force this beam would have as it fell.
Since the steel beam Izuku caught was propelled down by Gentle's constant bouncing, I calculated the amount of force this beam would have as it fell.
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Will need to wait for evaluation.
But I always wanted to calculate this scene using force instead of just the weight of the steel beam. Izuku didn't just pick it up off the ground, he stopped it mid fall. Which Gentle propelled with his constant bouncing. I meant to do it when this episode of Season 4 first came out... but I forgot.
Lifting Strength isn't really an important value for me. Also hate Class K, prefer Class M or Class 100.
But I always wanted to calculate this scene using force instead of just the weight of the steel beam. Izuku didn't just pick it up off the ground, he stopped it mid fall. Which Gentle propelled with his constant bouncing. I meant to do it when this episode of Season 4 first came out... but I forgot.
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If it’s worth mentioning, Deku held up several steel beams in the two heroes movie
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I know but Wolfram is doing his metal manipulation thing, the angel we get makes it very annoying to try and measure them.
Since it's like they're coming from the camera. And Izuku isn't in the shot. I've been trying, it's just very annoying.
I can make an attempt later on using the pattern on the floor.
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I believe I found a valid way to measure them a while ago, I’ll attempt to recalc it and see where I get.
Question, can we scale Todoroki’s ice off of blocking the steel beams or freezing them in place? When they slammed All Might into the ground they created a big shockwave. Could be calc worthy.
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Todoroki freezing something in place isn't anything for AP. His ice was also destroyed by the steel beams when they got hit.
So it'd be wrong to say his giant ice wall is that durable. And his ice durability would vary depending on the size, it also wouldn't scale to any AP.
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Oh I assumed his ice AP could be found by this, maybe not.
His ice did stop several steel beams tho, they collided into each other and he halted their movements.
Maybe not tho
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There was only two scenes of Todoroki's ice interacting with Wolfram. The first one was when he just freezes the beams with a wave of cold, which isn't AP.
Another one was him blocking a bunch of them with a giant ice wall, which also destroyed his wall. He didn't do anything else afterward.
Also checking Izuku's LS feat in the movie. I'm getting Class M results.
Another one was him blocking a bunch of them with a giant ice wall, which also destroyed his wall. He didn't do anything else afterward.
Also checking Izuku's LS feat in the movie. I'm getting Class M results.
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I think I could upload my version on this since I've had it saved for a while. I just need to find the time.
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We shunned you for Class M 5%, but look at where we are now…
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This is furthering my theory that Earthy is ghostwriting for Horikoshi.
Possible Sub-relativistic Nagant bullet scaling? Class M 8%? Something’s going on here…
Possible Sub-relativistic Nagant bullet scaling? Class M 8%? Something’s going on here…
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It weighs 7 Tons because that's how big it was measured. You disagree with these measurements?
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Eh... I'm on the fence about it, because the overall proportions of the beam are very inconsistent throughout the chapter. We don't get many clear shots of just how long it is, along with its width. It's why it's kind of hard to calc.
I mean, of course, if I had the time to properly his calc's measurements and go over it, maybe I could form a more solid opinion, but for now, I'll just focus on my own calc.
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I think it would possibly apply to Reaction Speed
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Please know that there is not a single thing in manga history that is 100% consistent between panels. Everything you look at will be inconsistent. These are drawings. Also the panel being used to measure the steel beam's length though looks accurate to me, as Izuku is quite literally being held up in the air by it.
Seems like a clear showing of the size of the beam.
I guess the size of the other parts of it could be different, but I personally say that length is solid.
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It scales to every top tier, unless we get a statement that these bullets are faster than anything she’s ever fired.
45% Deku can kick her bullets out of the air and react to them and block them, and 100% Deku can straight up blitz them.
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True but it'd be better to limit the pixel scaling to fewer panels, for maximum consistency. The way that he calculated the volume is also a bit weird, as It's better to separate the beam into 3 different parts since it's just three smaller metal beams stuck together. Treating the I-beam itself as some sort of rectangle is bound to yield inflated results.
I mean, he could just treat the I-beam as one big rectangle and calculate it as such, but he'd also have to account for how imperfect it is as a parallelogram.
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Plus ultra Tomura failed to one shot Mirko who’s durability is shitty. But is durable enough to tank high end level attacks with no damage at all? 
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We didn't know how less durable Mirko was, just that she was less durable than her legs. This shows she wasn't as weak as we thought.Plus ultra Tomura failed to one shot Mirko who’s durability is shitty. But is durable enough to tank high end level attacks with no damage at all?
Also Durability doesn't equal AP... Yes I said that and I'm not afraid to say it. Judge me for it.
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That's what he did. He measured it in three different parts.
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I think it would be strange if ShigaAfo/Tenko and Deku could attack at that speed. How could he not kill everyone he was holding before Deku arrived? Or because he couldn't kill Mirko when he was practically in front of him?
Sorry if I don't understand something, but that's the way I interpret it.
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Because they scale to it as well.
That's what he means. Shigaraki scales a good deal above it, they scale a bit below it. He also kind of blitz/outpace them once he got serious and stopped using the growth. Mirko was in the air so she couldn't dodge and Takami could react long enough to notice him and call out to Mirio.
But that was all he could do. Even Nejire from a distance couldn't avoid his attack. The bullets are slower than Shigaraki though. Since he scales to Prime All Might.
Unless Nagant states those bullets were the fastest she's ever fired or something. Or it's revealed she was a lot closer than we think.
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I’m aware, but considering her legs can absorb “most” (a large majority of) the impact and tank it with no visible damage and the remaining energy created wounds all over her body. While unquantifiable she’s still super weak.
I’m aware, I just find it shocking that his durability has increased to that degree and his AP has barely changed at all.
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We don't know if it absorbed a majority of it. It's unknown, we can't really calculate that kind of thing. We just know that she lessened the impact, half maybe? The science behind this is complicated and would have multiple different factors at work here.
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What the hell did I miss
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anyways, Yeah Class K is wild for 8%, and we’ll give 5% a downscale
Anyways, y’all wanna see me wank the wolfram cube calc to High 6-C? (It’s not meant to be serious, it’s just to show how dangerous wanking can be)
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The US Military does have photon laser weaponry already
I think it’s reasonable they have it now?
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Give us the KE Rusty
Also now that I’m reading back through, Nagant’s bullet speed is going from Her position to Shigaraki in mere moments, Even 5 seconds is >Mach 100
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Nah, cause the distance is calculated. So it would be calc stacking, as her bullet speed would come from a calced distance, giving a calced speed.
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