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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18
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I’m neutral about it you can change it if you wantThere's a render of Midoriya's current costume. Shall I change the render?
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Alright, I added the render.
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Fan translations are out.
- Re-Destro's attack at the Hero Commission seem to be too vague. They may have invited Re-Destro himself and they were "working" together with Detnerat to monitor Re-Destro's actions. They're lucky since he could've easily destroyed their HQ in one hit.
- All For One is still possessing Tomura's body. Spinner, Dabi, and Skeptic are obviously also aware. The attacks at seven prisons were to cover Tomura's tracks as the heroes would be too busy dealing with them. This isn't a takeover yet. Should be obvious that there are still a good number of heroes remaining.
- Shoto confirms that Dabi's flames were stronger than Endeavor's and that he couldn't win out in firepower. Shoto resolves that he has to be the one to take care of Dabi. His throat is burnt making him unable to speak (likely temporarily).
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Dang, AFO doesn't mess around, villains won this arc for sure after seeing the fan translations
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They opted for retreating instead of immediate attack which is in hindsight the right thing to do in comparison to attacking with a makeshift army of prisoners. AFO is likely already at a different hidden lair with the remaining PLF.
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Wondering what this arc will exactly be about now that they said chapter 297 was the beginning of a new arc.
Right now might just be time for Mirio to step up and prove that the statement, "he's the closest to number 1" was true. I feel if he fixed his AP issue then he would be set unfortunately his attack power is painfully low right now since he can't even damage Nomus which is pretty necessary for a top tier.
I feel Deku will probably have OFA dreams. Maybe a longer flashback of OFAs brother or a flashback of the 4th user before he wakes up. I'm still wondering where Ochako is + Inko too, maybe next chapter.
Right now the lynchpins for the heroes will probably be Best Jeanist and maybe Edgeshot. Then there's Mirio, Nejire, UA teachers like Vlad, Ectoplasm. Wash and Yoroimusha completely dropped the ball this arc despite being Top 10s.
Right now might just be time for Mirio to step up and prove that the statement, "he's the closest to number 1" was true. I feel if he fixed his AP issue then he would be set unfortunately his attack power is painfully low right now since he can't even damage Nomus which is pretty necessary for a top tier.
I feel Deku will probably have OFA dreams. Maybe a longer flashback of OFAs brother or a flashback of the 4th user before he wakes up. I'm still wondering where Ochako is + Inko too, maybe next chapter.
Right now the lynchpins for the heroes will probably be Best Jeanist and maybe Edgeshot. Then there's Mirio, Nejire, UA teachers like Vlad, Ectoplasm. Wash and Yoroimusha completely dropped the ball this arc despite being Top 10s.
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Which chapter? 93 or 94?
Is 94 out yet? Also I thought Vigilantes was a bimonthly manga.
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Chapter 94. On my shonen jump app it currently says it will be out in a few minutes.
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AFO probably had this whole fiasco planned out for a while now.
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Vigilantes is biweekly not bimonthly
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He is truly no joke
I was kinda annoyed by his presence during the Jaku battle and wanted shiggy to just have this arc as just his arc
But afo just seems a lot smarter and cooler recently
Which is impressive when in one of his first on screen appearances he is losing to All Might on the dregs of OFA after tons of lore hype prior then sent to jail(I always thought it’s likely just a part of his plan but it still)
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Wait a second I realized something
O’clock while explaining his routine with other heroes has Prime All might traveling beside him and he’s keeping pace with him but seemingly still slower
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It's a Flash vs Superman reference lol
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I do believe be should be that fast when going all out. Since he was the past generations resident speedster, he should at least be just as fast as Hawks & Mirko in travel speed.
I just think his weakness is probably that he can't do long distances cause if the whole oxygen thing.
Maybe he should have added something like an oxygen mask & small oxygeb tank to his costume.
I just think his weakness is probably that he can't do long distances cause if the whole oxygen thing.
Maybe he should have added something like an oxygen mask & small oxygeb tank to his costume.
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Yeah I know it is clearly O’clocks costume gives away already but I’m just mentioning it is a debatable feat and I don’t think it creates any inconsistencies when only scaled to running Speed really.
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I wonder when that actually happened though... Since it definitely didn't happen during this event since All Might left after and O'clock isn't in his costume during this battle.
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AFO manhandled Hood but this is far from Prime Hood and was weakened. A good feat nonetheless but isn' for scale from the complete high end Hood.
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Official Chapter is out. Not much difference from the fan translations this time except for some details told differently.
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Personally I dodged out on the fan translation this time around and I was kinda surprised Dabi did that much of a number on Shoto.
Although after going back and re reading a bit it makes sense he has that many burns
Afo’s mass prison break strategy is highkey kinda smart.
Wonder how long Deku will be in this coma I assume long.
I’m really hoping Gran Torino doesn’t walk again as it seems like he will live albeit barely.
Guess Weakened Bakugo has a feat of being able to walk while Base Sato and Mineta are trying to keep him still.
Doesn’t mean much but I wanna point it out
Although after going back and re reading a bit it makes sense he has that many burns
Afo’s mass prison break strategy is highkey kinda smart.
Wonder how long Deku will be in this coma I assume long.
I’m really hoping Gran Torino doesn’t walk again as it seems like he will live albeit barely.
Guess Weakened Bakugo has a feat of being able to walk while Base Sato and Mineta are trying to keep him still.
Doesn’t mean much but I wanna point it out
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There's one glaring issue this chapter which is incredibly annoying because Horikoshi has forced the characters to do something they wouldn't logically do.
AFO left Kurogiri behind and used the ******* Tartarus planes to escape the island. This makes zero sense. This was one of the first intelligent Nomu created and he has been an extremely important asset yet he just... forgot about him. A character who gave them the ability to teleport anywhere they wanted... just forgotten.
I had discussed it earlier on NF that i was worried this was done because Shirakumo's personality will come back and he'll get to be back with Mic and Aizawa. Well guess what, Shirakumo's silhouette can be seen in Kurogiri's mist during the prison break chapter.
You can see the nose shape and goggles. This is some pretty garbage writing. Yeah, it's cool Shirakumo will be back but this was a terrible way to go about it. Literally a zerohead move for a character like AFO and it's so incredibly forced.
AFO left Kurogiri behind and used the ******* Tartarus planes to escape the island. This makes zero sense. This was one of the first intelligent Nomu created and he has been an extremely important asset yet he just... forgot about him. A character who gave them the ability to teleport anywhere they wanted... just forgotten.
I had discussed it earlier on NF that i was worried this was done because Shirakumo's personality will come back and he'll get to be back with Mic and Aizawa. Well guess what, Shirakumo's silhouette can be seen in Kurogiri's mist during the prison break chapter.
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I agree
Shoto got kinda stomped by a dabi who was basically just trying to drag out his suffering pretty much
And basically just decided he’s done messing with Shoto and incaped him
I think Shoto will beat Dabi by outlasting him it’s kimda the only option as a much weaker dabi could vaporize tons of ice in short time frames
So fighting him with ice alone will also get him stomped
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Oh well yikes I actually assumed that Shirakumo was off screen rescued since even if guards tried to defend the door if afo came they’d be helpless.There's one glaring issue this chapter which is incredibly annoying because Horikoshi has forced the characters to do something they wouldn't logically do.
AFO left Kurogiri behind and used the ******* Tartarus planes to escape the island. This makes zero sense. This was one of the first intelligent Nomu created and he has been an extremely important asset yet he just... forgot about him. A character who gave them the ability to teleport anywhere they wanted... just forgotten.
I had discussed it earlier on NF that i was worried this was done because Shirakumo's personality will come back and he'll get to be back with Mic and Aizawa. Well guess what, Shirakumo's silhouette can be seen in Kurogiri's mist during the prison break chapter.
You can see the nose shape and goggles. This is some pretty garbage writing. Yeah, it's cool Shirakumo will be back but this was a terrible way to go about it. Literally a zerohead move for a character like AFO and it's so incredibly forced.
Personally I won’t just jump to conclusions just yet I hope Hori gives an explanation or Shirakumo was off screen saved but was unconscious
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What does re-destro mean by "literally two of me"?
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After the League of villains and Meta Liberation joined forces, Twice made a clone of Re-Destro. The real one stayed at the hideout and the clone did business as usual for Detnerat. So there was literally two of him for a period of time.
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AHHHHHHHHHHH. Thanks for that explanation.
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AFO has Forcible Quirk Activation and used it on Kurogiri while he was unconscious during the Kamino battle. There's no reason as to why he wouldn't use Kurogiri to escape, he even talks about how they had to get a Tartarus guard so the planes system could be used which seems like a complete hassle to do. Using Kurogiri would be thousands of times easier and more logical, heck he could just take the quirk for himself if he wanted.
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Oh yeah forcible quirk activation
Yeah this is inexcusable.Thats a shame
It’s not a arc ruiner for me but it’s quite an annoying thing
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This wasn't forced, it was revealed Kurogiri was Shirakumo before the war arc even started. Most likely, Horikoshi has been planning this since the reveal.There's one glaring issue this chapter which is incredibly annoying because Horikoshi has forced the characters to do something they wouldn't logically do.
AFO left Kurogiri behind and used the ******* Tartarus planes to escape the island. This makes zero sense. This was one of the first intelligent Nomu created and he has been an extremely important asset yet he just... forgot about him. A character who gave them the ability to teleport anywhere they wanted... just forgotten.
I had discussed it earlier on NF that i was worried this was done because Shirakumo's personality will come back and he'll get to be back with Mic and Aizawa. Well guess what, Shirakumo's silhouette can be seen in Kurogiri's mist during the prison break chapter.
You can see the nose shape and goggles. This is some pretty garbage writing. Yeah, it's cool Shirakumo will be back but this was a terrible way to go about it. Literally a zerohead move for a character like AFO and it's so incredibly forced.
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By combos, I meant like Flashfreeze Heatwave. It could counter air pressure from 100% Deku and it was made from regular ice and fire. It would be been stronger if it was made from Flashfire and Flashfreeze.
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Did I miss something? Why would he need Kurogiri to escape in the first place? He can fly, he has his own weaker Warp quirk too + he was only freeing the prisoners to create more chaos not to run around with them since it seems he attacked all the other prisons by himself. He didn't even bring the Nomus but just highjacked the planes and pilots.
As for Kurogiri, where even is he? It's not like his status was confirmed this chapter.
Basically, AFO didn't even need him to accomplish all he did + you might be disappointed but the moment Aizawa spoke to Kurogiri & he showed that he still had some memories from Shirakumo, it's a given Shirakumo will make a comeback sometime in the future.
I also doubt AFO can take Warpgate, it isn't a normal quirk but a mixture of many different quirks. It would be way too complex. AFO already has a problem with memory space when it comes to 4th gen and 5th gen quirks. Warpgate is probably comparable to current OFA in terms of sheer complexity.
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That doesn't mean that the actions AFO made weren't forced... Why is it that AFO has completely ignored the existence that he has a teleporter Nomu on the Tartarus island?
This is some of what I said on SB:
"Also thinking about it, since Aizawa and Mic went to visit Kurogiri on multiple occasions after the chapter we saw(255), that could be the reason as to why Shirakumo's silhouette is seen in the image I posted earlier. Shirakumo's personality is starting to come out more so that's why Kurogiri looks that way in the prison break chapter.
I can already see it, Horikoshi has purposely left Kurogiri behind because he has had plans for Shirakumo to come back since he wants him to return to Aizawa and Mic. I just can't think of why he would draw Kurogiri that way and not have his name at least mentioned once."
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You just answered your own question as to why AFO left him. If Kurogiri gets his old personality back, it'd be dangerous to keep him around. If I was as big as a villain as AFO, obviously I wouldn't take such a huge risk.
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You must have beacause AFO ignoring Kurogiri's existence is completely nonsensical.
Because the planes on Tartarus are inconvenient to use as you have to keep a guard alive and make multiple trips and using teleportation is a thousand times easier and more efficient, is that not obvious?
We see AFO in one of the planes. His flight isn't shown to be particularly great anyways.
The goop teleporter is ***** compared to Kurogiri and no, AFO isn't the one who attacked the other prisons. It was Tartarus inmates and High-Ends.
He has been abandoned in Tartarus. If he hadn't been abandoned we would have seen him already.
That doesn't matter. Ignoring the fact that using teleportation would make things a thousand times easier and more efficient, it is just completely nonsensical that AFO forgot about Kurogiri and was forced to inconvenience himself using a Tartarus guard for the planes.
I'm not disappointed in that. In fact I knew it was coming and I sorta answered to it in my reply to Earthyboy.
What is disappointing is that AFO is forced to make a stupid decision he wouldn't logically make.
Fair enough but this point also becomes irrelevant since AFO still has Forcible Quirk Activation.
No, that doesn't answer my question. Not at all. That doesn't answer why we didn't even see a single scene of AFO looking for or mentioning Kurogiri at the very least.
You're also saying that with the hindsight of the reader, AFO himself doesn't know that, and we can't assume he does because we didn't see a scene of him going to Kurogiri to see that. Do you see the issue here?
Currently Kurogiri is unconscious so AFO could have just used Forcible Quirk Activation. But let's say Shirakumo's personality was back and he caused problems later down the line, that's not exactly hard to deal with, AFO could just give him additional quirks to make him braindead and then use Forcible Quirk Activation on him until they retrieve the Doctor to fix his programming.
That would be along AFO's line of thinking but no, Kurogiri has just been completely forgotten by AFO so Horikoshi can do this whole Shirakumo returns story line. That is the reason why it is forced.
AFO has been forced to do something he would not do if it wasn't for a separate subplot that Horikoshi wants to continue. That is bad writing no matter how you look at it. Especially considering how useful of an asset Kurogiri is to the villains.
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