My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

[Earthyboy]

Well, I just read Vigilantes. I don't think there's any new quantifiable feats for All Might unfortunately, even though it's Prime Might.
He just did a lot of things while his pillow was in mid-air in an unknown altitude, reminiscent of the Sky Egg arc.

Not quite, here's the distance he crossed. He managed to travel from Might Tower, (which is in Tokyo) to Osaka in a brief manner of time. Here's the distance between Osaka and Tokyo. It's an extremely huge distance if you didn't notice. That's a least a few hundred kilometers he crossed in like seconds I believe.

That's at least into the far ranges of High Hypersonic+, maybe even MHS+. Hell, it's likely he still isn't going all out here to not destroy any residential areas. So it wouldn't be an outlier either way.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Could Mirio really have escaped even if he kicked down a wall? With Chisaki casually creating and enclosed space with his quirk, I highly doubt Mirio could've escaped even if he could break the walls down.

Mirio doesn't have particularly fast movement speed if he's not using Permeation. Chisaki can probably catch up with Overhaul real quick regardless.

I don't think I can explain this correctly, but basically, Mirio can harm characters with High 8-C durability because the force of his punches would transfer better on targets made of flesh than hard targets like walls. I believe that if Kirishima hardened his abs he would've been able to withstand that punch from Mirio.
I suck at physics so I can't explain it properly, should ask other people's takes on this lol

Movie stuff is too controversial a topic, which is understandbale as they are explicitly described to be canon, although barely referenced in the manga (Nine's life is truly pain). Even though I believe we've all thought about and even discussed what a separate profiles would look like.

Yeah I guess you're right about that but he would've at least tried it if he could or would've busted down the wall when they first got in rather than Deku or Kirishima

Hmmm yeah I'll try to ask around.

 

[Gitagon]

That's a f--kin huge distance All Might crossed and it all happened in real time and he could have arrived much earlier if he didn't take detours fighting villains, saving people, even saving chickens, lol.

At most he took a few minutes to arrive at the fight cause of the detours.

But if he went there directly, he would have probably arrived in time to fight Hood.

Also the fight between Hood, O'clock, Rappa and Mirko is basically a fight between speedsters so it should have taken much less time without the dialogue scenes.

 

[Earthyboy]

That's a f--kin huge distance All Might crossed and it all happened in real time and he could have arrived much earlier if he didn't take detours fighting villains, saving people, even saving chickens, lol.

At most he took a few minutes to arrive at the fight cause of the detours.

But if he went there directly, he would have probably arrived in time to fight Hood.

Also the fight between Hood, O'clock, Rappa and Mirko is basically a fight between speedsters so it should have taken much less time without the dialogue scenes.

Most likely, he could do all of the detours in seconds given his superior speed. We could probably assume a timeframe of 10-30 seconds at the very least.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

What's with the weird powers he has btw like Might eyes?

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Vigilantes 93 is out in the official Japanese shonen jump app. The author just posted it on twitter.

All Might does get some new Superman-like feats: deflecting a bullet with his palm, using super breath to put out a fire in a building and I guess All Might also knows locks or jiu jutsu lol.

All might deflecting the bullet there might be the most clear and obvious Supersonic feat in the series so that’s nice

All Might also (thankfully) seemingly actually arrived to Osaka quite quickly unfortunately it’s completely unquantifiable timeframe wise lol.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

What's with the weird powers he has btw like Might eyes?

Maybe as he got weaker he lost them over time somehow
I mean this is prime all might after all

likely his enhanced senses just went down the drain, this would also explain how Deku and Bakugo could catch All might off guard and surprise him even tho I’m sure he heard what was going on in Osaka which is hundreds of kms away.

 

[Gitagon]

Most likely, he could do all of the detours in seconds given his superior speed. We could probably assume a timeframe of 10-30 seconds at the very least.

The official English version is out and AFO says it bought them 3 seconds which is actually much shorter than I thought.

 

[Gitagon]

What's with the weird powers he has btw like Might eyes?

I just think its enhanced senses, same for Might ears. Maybe OFA boosts vision, hearing, etc like it boosts other physical stats.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

The official English version is out and AFO says it bought them 3 seconds which is actually much shorter than I thought.

I thought the 3 seconds bought was referring to all the villains running rampant and not necessarily how long All Might took
We can only really base the timeframe off of the amount of dialogue(I think) exchanged but given anime/manga can have characters think in paragraphs mid jump or have a few lines of dialogue take tens of minutes to be exchanged that’s a little iffy

 

[Gitagon]

I thought the 3 seconds bought was referring to all the villains running rampant and not necessarily how long All Might took
We can only really base the timeframe off of the amount of dialogue(I think) exchanged but given anime/manga can have characters think in paragraphs mid jump or have a few lines of dialogue take tens of minutes to be exchanged that’s a little iffy

I thought he 3 seconds was for All Might's detours specifically as All Might did arrive just as Hood was teleported away meaning if he came directly without doing anything else, he would have arrived 3 seconds earlier.

But yeah, the talking scenes do muddle things up especially with how manga is.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

I thought he 3 seconds was for All Might's detours specifically as All Might did arrive just as Hood was teleported away meaning if he came directly without doing anything else, he would have arrived 3 seconds earlier.

But yeah, the talking scenes do muddle things up especially with how manga is.

Although a counter for the 3 seconds referring to the villains down there that all might blitz stomped

Is that Kurogiri claimed all might beat them in the “Blink of an eye”(0.1-0.3 seconds)but I am unsure on this media as a whole if it wants to say someone is very fast will say they did something in the blink of an eye

Even if technically it isn’t true

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Izuku implied he can't destroy walls either, he needs his Iron Soles to do so.

Reminds me of 7-C weakling trio being unable to destroy a large wooden door in Thriller Bark.

 

[Gitagon]

I think OFA can be said to give enhanced senses after this plus enhanced breath/increased lung capacity or something. Basically the full Superman combo apart from heat vision, freeze breath & flight.

 

[Metalballrun]

If we're going by Caleb's interpretation, the 3 seconds time frame refers to the All Might montage of doing superman-ish stuff.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

So how fast would that be again?

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Have you guys seen this thread

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Have you guys seen this thread

What are great way to start in the Forum with your first post.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Lmao.

 

[Gitagon]

It's still a lot of stuff done in 3 seconds; especially since he would have to slow down at times like when he had the kids on his back or when he was posing.

However the more impressive feat is still All Might arriving in Osaka from Tokyo in the frame of Mirko telling the cops to call All Might and her stepping back into the fight. Adding the time for Nighteye to receive the call, it becomes even shorter. It probably took him only a few seconds to cover over 100km.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

And that was Prime All Might right?
I got lost

 

[Spinoirr]

Yeah 1 year before his fight with afo

 

[Metalballrun]

Have you guys seen this thread

Commented my thoughts. It's fine if the downgrade is legit but the post itself is lacking.

 

[Earthyboy]

I recalculated Wolfram's cube, again. Anyone who is interested can take a look at it.

 

[CyborgSakumo]

Here's an inconsistency I found with the movie that I want someone to comment on.

Why is 5% Deku able to keep up speed-wise with a weakened AM.

 

[Earthyboy]

Here's an inconsistency I found with the movie that I want someone to comment on.

Why is 5% Deku able to keep up speed-wise with a weakened AM.

If I had to guess, it's probably because All Might was making sure not to destroy the terrain around him thanks to going at 100%. Obviously, this would require him to slow down a little. Plus, I'd assume that he's trying to keep pace with Deku to work together with him.

 

[CyborgSakumo]

If I had to guess, it's probably because All Might was making sure not to destroy the terrain around him thanks to going at 100%. Obviously, this would require him to slow down a little. Plus, I'd assume that he's trying to keep pace with Deku to work together with him.

There was no terrain around him that'd he'd want to avoid breaking the area was a battleground and he was actively attempting to destroy the area, not to mention both characters went on separate paths through the rubble meaning being able to keep in sync wouldn't make sense.

 

[Earthyboy]

There was no terrain around him that'd he'd want to avoid breaking the area was a battleground and he was actively attempting to destroy the area, not to mention both characters went on separate paths through the rubble meaning being able to keep in sync wouldn't make sense.

Then I guess it would be an outlier? Other than that you could just argue that it's plot induced stupidity or PIS.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Here's an inconsistency I found with the movie that I want someone to comment on.

Why is 5% Deku able to keep up speed-wise with a weakened AM.

That one I'd chalk purely up to PIS. Unlike 100%, there is literally zero reason he should be comparable to AM there.

Just call it Hori and the directors wanting them to fight together

 

[CyborgSakumo]

Then I guess it would be an outlier? Other than that you could just argue that it's plot induced stupidity or PIS.

I'm starting to compile a list of battle-related inconsistencies in the movies and I'm really getting ready to make a post to just get rid of them entirely.

For just a few

Deku's 100% being shown roughly equal to Weakened AM's when there have been multiple statements that AM was able to use the full power of OFA right off the bat and Bakugou was shown using the full power of OFA instantly.

Deku having a High 6-C feat

Bakugou having a town level feat.

Deku keeping up with Weakened AM.

There are more, but it's getting to the point where I can't just ignore the inconsistencies and I'm beginning to agree with Damage that movie feats really shouldn't be used vs battle wise.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

What would they scale to if the movie feats were rejected?

 

[CyborgSakumo]

All might's Storm feat.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

What would they scale to if the movie feats were rejected?

There are actually feats in the manga they can scale to like Bakugo's explosion, AM's storm feat, AFO's Air Cannon the list goes on.

 

[Earthyboy]

I'm starting to compile a list of battle-related inconsistencies in the movies and I'm really getting ready to make a post to just get rid of them entirely.

For just a few

Deku's 100% being shown roughly equal to Weakened AM's when there have been multiple statements that AM was able to use the full power of OFA right off the bat.

Deku having a High 6-C feat

Bakugou having a town level feat.

Deku keeping up with Weakened AM.

There are more, but it's getting to the point where I can't just ignore the inconsistencies and I'm beginning to agree with Damage that movie feats really shouldn't be used vs battle wise.

The first one is obvious. 100% Deku is extremely comparable in power to Weakened AM's power. Their stats have been compared throughout the series multiple times, so of course, he's going to be roughly equal or at least within the range of Weakened AM's power.

Bakugo's Town level feat could just be listed as an outlier altogether. It can also be argued as PIS since the students were required to support AM and Deku somewhat.

Deku keeping up with Weakened AM can also be argued as PIS since the writers probably wanted him to work together with AM, for some radical reason.

There are some outliers in the movies, yes, but when you look at the main series a good majority of the feats in the movies are highly consistent with the ones in the manga. An example would be High 8-C 5% Deku, Supersonic 5%, and the Double Detroit Smash.

You can't really ax off scaling from the movies just because there are a few outliers. That's basically saying we can't use the consistent feats from the movies because they're in the same group as the outliers of the movies. That's an association fallacy.

 

[CyborgSakumo]

The first one is obvious. 100% Deku is extremely comparable in power to Weakened AM's power. Their stats have been compared throughout the series multiple times, so of course, he's going to be roughly equal or at least within the range of Weakened AM's power.

Bakugo's Town level feat could just be listed as an outlier altogether. It can also be argued as PIS since the students were required to support AM and Deku somewhat.

Deku keeping up with Weakened AM can also be argued as PIS since the writers probably wanted him to work together with AM, for some radical reason.

There are some outliers in the movies, yes, but when you look at the main series a good majority of the feats in the movies are highly consistent with the ones in the manga. An example would be High 8-C 5% Deku, Supersonic 5%, and the Double Detroit Smash.

You can't really ax off scaling from the movies just because there are a few outliers. That's basically saying we can't use the consistent feats from the movies because they're in the same group as the outliers of the movies. That's an association fallacy.

When had deku been compared to weakened AM's power, it's just been comparison's to AM's power.

It's not one or two inconsistencies the movies are beginning to be consistently inconsistent especially during the final battles.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I'm starting to compile a list of battle-related inconsistencies in the movies and I'm really getting ready to make a post to just get rid of them entirely.

For just a few

Deku's 100% being shown roughly equal to Weakened AM's when there have been multiple statements that AM was able to use the full power of OFA right off the bat and Bakugou was shown using the full power of OFA instantly.

Deku having a High 6-C feat

Bakugou having a town level feat.

Deku keeping up with Weakened AM.

There are more, but it's getting to the point where I can't just ignore the inconsistencies and I'm beginning to agree with Damage that movie feats really shouldn't be used vs battle wise.

Add hypersonic 5% to your list while you're at it.

 

[Earthyboy]

It's not one or two inconsistencies the movies are beginning to be consistently inconsistent especially during the final battles.

Most of the inconsistencies in the movies are PIS and are plot-related. If we look at this logically, there are feats in the movie which are highly consistent with the canon. Yeah, there are a few inconsistencies in the movies but that doesn't mean we get rid of consistent scaling.

 

[CyborgSakumo]

Most of the inconsistencies in the movies are PIS and are plot-related. If we look at this logically, there are feats in the movie which are highly consistent with the canon. Yeah, there are a few inconsistencies in the movies but that doesn't mean we get rid of consistent scaling.

Yes, there are feats in the movie that are consistent, but there are also a good amount that are not consistent, and it's not even just PIS. There was no Plot induced reason to give Deku a high 6-C feat, the same goes with hypersonic 5% feats. The movies can be good for supporting feats if there consistent with the manga but unless the feat is supported by other consistent showings I'm against accepting them on their own.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Yes, there are feats in the movie that are consistent, but there are also a good amount that are not consistent, and it's not even just PIS. There was no Plot induced reason to give Deku a high 6-C feat, the same goes with hypersonic 5% feats. The movies can be good for supporting feats if there consistent with the manga but unless the feat is supported by other consistent showings I'm against accepting them on their own.

The entire High 6-C feat is fueled by plot, what? It's Deku and Bakugo striking out together, two OFA's, to clear the sky and save an island at max power Full Cowl 100%. How is that not grounds for a PIS scenario?

Where is hypersonic 5% coming from anyway

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

The entire High 6-C feat is fueled by plot, what? It's Deku and Bakugo striking out together, two OFA's, to clear the sky and save an island at max power Full Cowl 100%. How is that not grounds for a PIS scenario?

Where is hypersonic 5% coming from anyway

When he heated up the metal and himself by running