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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

Earthyboy said:
I know this is a little off-topic, but It wouldn't really matter because even if it were stronger, its kinetic energy would only imply that it was traveling at barely only a dozen times the speed of sound. Which... isn't really impressive. In fact, that statement would be borderline useless, as our current calculations say that the bullet is at least a few dozens of times faster than sound.

What IS impressive is that it had enough momentum/impact to knock back Deku a couple of meters, while he was flying through the air. The speed required to do that is extradonairy. The fact it's capable of decelerating Deku's body at all suggests that they're incredibly fast, even for bullets.
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you wanna join us in trying to make/find MHS speed calcs
we got uuuuuuuuuuuuh, 1.5 (the all might yeeting himself as a divebomb in vigis is barely accepted so we’ll call it .5 of one)

Maybe 2.5 as Rusty’s version of Six’s movement might just get used to prove that MHS is possible and there
 
Therefir said:
Wasn't it Mach 11? The problem with this feat is that it was off screened and we don't know how Overhaul defeated Rappa.

In the scene they did show, I think Overhaul was just walking there after defeating Rappa.
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Therefir I sent you the joke storm rotation on the last page, I can send it again if you want.
But aside from that, you got any ideas for good speed feats we haven’t calculated
 
Acer__ said:
Oh I more just meant discussing it here, cause it’s the general thread
we all exist here, so it’s the best place to send in ideas for the whole group to look at
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Hmm... Well, I have been busy looking at a few feats, but they're mostly for 5-8% Full Cowl Deku. I'll probably make blogs about them when I'm not busy drawing or maintaining my other hobbies.
 
Therefir said:
Wasn't it Mach 11? The problem with this feat is that it was off screened and we don't know how Overhaul defeated Rappa.
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I messed up the distance and re calced it at Mach 20. But, the anime shows it like this:

Overhaul touches Rappa and destroys his upper half while he’s in mid air

It quickly cuts to the next scene of Rappa back to normal, with Overhaul standing in the same spot he was before, indicating the events happened in a short timeframe
 
Earthyboy said:
I know this is a little off-topic, but It wouldn't really matter because even if it were stronger, its kinetic energy would only imply that it was traveling at barely only a dozen times the speed of sound. Which... isn't really impressive. In fact, that statement would be borderline useless, as our current calculations say that the bullet is at least a few dozens of times faster than sound.

What IS impressive is that it had enough momentum/impact to knock back Deku a couple of meters, while he was flying through the air. The speed required to do that is extradonairy. The fact it's capable of decelerating Deku's body at all suggests that they're incredibly fast, even for bullets.
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What about the scenario in which Deku’s “float” makes him weightless, and we assume he was using it while trying to get close? Wouldn’t that heavily impact how fast the bullet would need to be??
 
Acer__ said:
Nah that was when all the cubes started moving everywhere. cause those directly came from the shattering of what we saw was a (atleast cinematc) representation of his quirk throwing things back.
The ring of SPEED was just the mf moving so quickly he started not being there and then started after imaging
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I went frame by frame. The cubes formed into that ring of energy.
 
Endeavor, hawks, Jiro, Tokoyami and dark shadow seeing AFO after he regenerates:
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The Flect fight is really good until Deku goes 100%, thats when it kinda loses me.

Deku goes “we can’t lose!” and charges at Flect, then in the next frame he’s going… towards the ceiling where Flect isn’t? And then there’s a flash of white and he’s sent flying back?? Then Flect is also sent flying back despite the fact we never see the clash and then he begins bleeding.

I dunno. Just very strange choreography to me. Also the “United States of world smash” is the worst thing in this series to me.
 
AtomicSekiro said:
What about the scenario in which Deku’s “float” makes him weightless, and we assume he was using it while trying to get close? Wouldn’t that heavily impact how fast the bullet would need to be??
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Where was this ever stated? Deku's float doesn't make him "weightless," it just allows him to fly. This just sounds like headcanon to me.

If Deku really was weightless, his punches wouldn't even pack a punch.
 
AtomicSekiro said:
What about the scenario in which Deku’s “float” makes him weightless, and we assume he was using it while trying to get close? Wouldn’t that heavily impact how fast the bullet would need to be??
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Who said his Float makes himself weightless? It Float made himself weightless, the sheer air pressure of Deku’s own punches would send him flying back literal kilometers
 
Earthyboy said:
Where was this ever stated? Deku's float doesn't make him "weightless," it just allows him to fly. This just sounds like headcanon to me.

If Deku really was weightless, his punches wouldn't even pack a punch.
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It doesn’t allow him to fly. It allows him to FLOAT. Its compared to Uraraka’s zero gravity, which he even used to train himself before he even had the Quirk, so they seem pretty identical in nature.

His punches would back a punch since, y’know, objects going fast still hurt even if they have no weight. But against Shigaraki, he explicitly had to counter each attack he threw with his legs with Air Force to not be blown away.

It makes more sense that he’s, affectively, weightless when floating.
 
Mazdoesstuff said:
Who said his Float makes himself weightless? It Float made himself weightless, the sheer air pressure of Deku’s own punches would send him flying back literal kilometers
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“the sheer air pressure of Deku’s own punches would send him flying back literal kilometers”

Is that not why Bakugo stated he had to use Air Force to counteract the force of his own attacks against Shigaraki?
 
Also, is there even a difference between:

An object with weight magically suspended in the air.

vs

An object that is weightless magically suspended in the air

And what is that difference? Wouldn’t the end result be the same??

”Weight” is basically Gravity’s affect on your body. Float nullifies gravity’s affect on Deku. So… he’d be weightless, by sheer logic.
 
@TheRustyOne Instead of having a useless "Storm Expansion" section on this calc, which only gave High 7-A, why not replace it using a Storm Spinning calculation?

You already calculated the speed of the spin here at 24112.875 m/s.

Since the storm is spinning, we don't need to use the nerfed Kinetic Energy formula.

Energy = 0.5*9.9104382e+12*(24112.875)^2 = 688.60 Gigatons of TNT (Large Island level+)

This time this is legit.
 
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I don't have a problem with it if that is the correct formula for spinning... Actually I think it is.

Also the speed you have there is the speed I cut in half to find Izuku and Bakugo's individual speed, though I don't know if I really needed to do that.

The actual speed of the storm spinning is double that.

Results = 6.48314645e21 Joules, 1.54 Teratons of TNT (Small Country level)

Low 6-B God Tiers and High 6-C+ Top Tiers?
 
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Therefir said:
That gives me an idea.

Energy = 0.5*9.9104382e+12*(79708.9052927)^2 = 7524.62 Gigatons of TNT, Country level

Zamn.
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Therefir please just say it’s ok, weve gotta upgrade everything
but also yeah damn, what have I created by doing a joke calculation
 
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AtomicSekiro said:
It doesn’t allow him to fly. It allows him to FLOAT.
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Okay... floating doesn't mean he's weightless though. It just means you're suspended and airborne. The reason it's compared to Uraraka's Zero Gravity is that both quirks allow him to fly.

AtomicSekiro said:
But against Shigaraki, he explicitly had to counter each attack he threw with his legs with Air Force to not be blown away.
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Yes, because they recoiled onto him. When you generate shockwaves in the air, logically speaking, you shouldn't be surprised if you're being pushed back. That is just how the force works. It's Newton's. Thrid Law. If you punch a wall, why do you think breaks your hand? Because that force rebounds onto you. The same can be said for shock waves and air pressure. It doesn't have anything to do with him being weightless, you're just pulling this out of your ass.

AtomicSekiro said:
”Weight” is basically Gravity’s affect on your body. Float nullifies gravity’s affect on Deku. So… he’d be weightless, by sheer logic.
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Where is this stated???

Are you just assuming he's weightless because there's no other explanation for him floating in the air?

With no proof?

Or evidence?

Or even a dictionary definition proving you right?

What is this? A circus or something?
 
They're in AFO's power and ability section, but yes I do need to still put them in his noticeable technique sections.

These are still a work in progress after all.

AFO with Rewind is going to wait until I see exactly how he rewinded himself. I speculate it was likely through the modified Quirk Erasing bullets. Since we haven't seen him grow a horn yet, though who knows what will be shown next chapter.
 
Mazdoesstuff said:
Where does High 6-C+ come from?
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Mirko and whoever scales to her would be downscaling to baseline High 6-C+, just like how they were going to downscale to 6-C+ when they were High 6-C.

Since she can survive those attacks, but would be heavily damaged and likely incapable of moving.
 
Also I always wondered: if the USJ Nomu could take 300 attacks from All Might, shouldn’t he just be 300x All Might’s AP for his dura?

For example, it’d be:

Low 6-B normally, up to High 6-B with Shock Absorption
 
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