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Is this the first time we see AFO give an actual reaction to pain?
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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18
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He's never really been injured to this extent before onscreen. His body is apparently not listening to him and his defence collapsed so he actually took real damage against Endeavor.
Even against All Might in Kamino he was simply one punch KOd and wasn't actually conscious to feel the pain.
Even against All Might in Kamino he was simply one punch KOd and wasn't actually conscious to feel the pain.
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May I ask what they are, I’ve seen people very mad
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AFO needs Forcefield Creation
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Also I think Endeavor needs a better justification for his durability negation, as he can literally vaporize characters who are more durable than him, such as All For One
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@TheRustyOne why does endeavor say they had already confirmed AFO didn’t have super regeneration? I thought super Regen was only mid Regen not mid-high
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Because All For One hasn't been regenerating in this battle or in his battle at Kamino.
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I more meant the wording seems to say someone with shigaraki’s body and super Regen could come back from that prominence burn. I could just be misreading it
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Yeah, because Prominence Burn can't turn Shigaraki actual ash. Turned his entire body black, almost killed him, but his brain was still going. Though AFO implied the attack would've ctually killed Shigaraki had he not stopped Endeavor with Rivet Stab.
While AFO's body was instantly flaking away in the wind. What point are you trying to make?
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i just said I was probably misreading it. Which I was
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Yo Therefir how do you feel about upscaling Base Deku to baseline 8-B+ (50 tons), since he took a 47 ton shockwave while heavily injured
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Shigaraki did come back from Prominence Burn. His body was still intact after PB with only his skin gone and he healed back up in seconds. Also super regen is passive so anyone fighting someone with it will notice as long as they inflict damage and see it getting healed up almost instantaneously.
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I agree with TheRusty here, being heavily injured doesn't necessarily have to lower his durability like, in Dragon Ball for instance.
And aside from his busted arms, Deku has only received an elbow to the stomach from Shigaraki, an Air Cannon, and a slap in the face when Shigaraki tried to steal OFA from him.
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From what I’ve noticed, if a message adds another page and you don’t click over to the other page to read the messages, it stops sending you notifications until you jump to the latest page
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I mean didn’t we see examples of it in MHA? A normal Shigaraki was capable of stomping Endeavor in combat, yet when he was heavily injured and weakened, he was defeated by Nejire and Todoroki
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Btw, should Shigaraki get Resistance to Heat, since he took a Prominence Burn and remained in one piece, while AFO was disintegrated
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Why are those things mutually exclusive?
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Both Nejire and Shoto are 7-A+ though, and his stamina is not infinite.
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Shoto scales to like 550 MT tho, which is below Shigaraki’s peak (639 MT)? At the end of the day Shigaraki got roughly 90 MT weaker, but I get wym
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You're ignoring that Tomura was hit by two attacks simultaneously.
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Shigaraki scales above Nine right? (He’s garaki’s perfect one while nine was still a failure)
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Forgot abt it
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Technically if Shigaraki gets fully Nomuified he will have infinite staminaImagine Shigiraki with infinite stamina
Oh yeah I forgot, so 748 MT then
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Does anyone have the supposed sandbox for potential High 6-C top tiers?
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Here is mine.
This is just for scaling and the High 6-C stuff. Things like new keys or power and abilities are not something I've touched on yet.
This is just for scaling and the High 6-C stuff. Things like new keys or power and abilities are not something I've touched on yet.
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Does it not bother anyone else that Large Island level is like... far, far out of reach of most character's actual feats in the series?
EDIT: Noticed an issue with the air-clap calc. I'll make a Calc Group thread to address it at some point.
EDIT: Noticed an issue with the air-clap calc. I'll make a Calc Group thread to address it at some point.
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Considering we have more High 6-C feats than 7-A feats, I don't see what the issue is.
Izuku and Bakugo's feat (172.29 Gigatons), Star and Stripes' clap (134.01 Gigatons), and the giant intercontinental missiles (1106.75 Gigatons and 110.67 Gigatons for the individual missiles). The last one hasn't been evaluated yet, but the results are consistent here.
Unless the calcs have issues, which is something completely different that would change everything.
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In all seriousness, I'm mostly focusing on fixing the reasonings and scaling on the profiles. I really don't care for High 6-C itself.
Honestly I much prefer the old Low 7-B to 7-B ratings. Just based on appeal and nothing else.
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There’s 3 Large Island feats, which is actually fairly consistent for top tiers lol (which is 1 more than 7-A feats)
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This is also personal preference, but I like 7-A+ and High 7-A way more as a tier than High 6-C.
However, ignoring cloud parting feats is not something we can continue to do, and as long as it's accurate I don't really care what tier they end up at.
However, ignoring cloud parting feats is not something we can continue to do, and as long as it's accurate I don't really care what tier they end up at.
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Hey Therefir, can I DM you directly regarding the Star and Stripe clap calc? So I don't need to make a thread. (Assuming you agree with me)
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Of course.
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Visually speaking I prefer 6-C, High 6-C is an ugly value but 7-A and High 7-A also don’t hit right
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@TheRustyOne I do want to know where you think nine should scale?
Cause he's stronger than one OFA user and it took two to take him down (So like double the calc amount?), I just don't think it makes to much sense if we scale nine to the storm feat when he took one of those punches on his tornado like it was a Saturday afternoon
For Shigaraki's power, we clearly need to add the strength of everyone there together, so Endeavor + 45% + Gran Torino etc etc
Cause he's stronger than one OFA user and it took two to take him down (So like double the calc amount?), I just don't think it makes to much sense if we scale nine to the storm feat when he took one of those punches on his tornado like it was a Saturday afternoon
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