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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

Okay, so I was thinking with the newest chapter, we should have Best Jeanist have "7-B with strongest wires", for restraining Gigantomakhia, Dabi, and a few other villains.
 
Ok seeing as how the pro heroes killed like half the NHE while losing over half of their own numbers how do we scale them? They’re less intelligent sure but with all their abilities I thought they’d do better since it’s near High End who are like 8A

would High 8C+ work?
 
Why High 8-C+? Just scale them to at least High 8-C for being at least comparable the Nomus at Hosu.
 
Nice to see Dabi making more use of his Psuedo Flight and melting the cables was a really good Temperature feat

Not Sure On Nejire’s Durability As that was a clear Flashfire attack from Dabi as when Dabi uses Flashfire his flames are drawn differently Maybe due to her(Seemingly) barely surviving she gets 8-A.

NHE Nomu and mirio need more feats.

Also Shoto looks like he’s getting stomped by Dabi pretty bad but hey, he’s surviving.Heat resistance Feats for Shoto I guess.

Best Jeanist really be showing off those Lifting strength feats vs Machia too the same Person who could swing Mount Lady with One Arm.
 
Jackof_noTrades068 said:
Nice to see Dabi making more use of his Psuedo Flight and melting the cables was a really good Temperature feat

Not Sure On Nejire’s Durability As that was a clear Flashfire attack from Dabi as when Dabi uses Flashfire his flames are drawn differently Maybe due to her(Seemingly) barely surviving she gets 8-A.

NHE Nomu and mirio need more feats.

Also Shoto looks like he’s getting stomped by Dabi pretty bad but hey, he’s surviving.Heat resistance Feats for Shoto I guess.

Best Jeanist really be showing off those Lifting strength feats vs Machia too the same Person who could swing Mount Lady with One Arm.
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On a side note it’s kinda sad how Hard Nejire jobbed there This chapter literally just one shotted.
 
Also burnin should get a profile now that we know what her qurik is kinda

She can use the fire from her hair to make weapons
 
Spinoirr said:
Also burnin should get a profile now that we know what her qurik is kinda

She can use the fire from her hair to make weapons
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She’s too featless rn outside of that one chapter cover where she’s seemingly keeping up with War arc Bakugo and 30% Deku speed wise although I’m not sure how legit that is

Or more likely Burnin was leading them so they slowed down
 
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So this chapter confirms a problem, Machia needs an order to unleash his full power. The problem is that Machia wasn't order to destroy anything when he did that 7-B feat, which means he should be stronger than that when given an order. Which doesn't make sense with are current assumptions, saying he's 7-B max.

However an even bigger problem is that I don't think the 7-B feat is legit, considering the circumstances and how Machia destroys stuff. I'm pretty sure that destruction was from him running through the mountain. He didn't punch it or waved his hand, he ran through it like he did the city and the forest.

Even without that I was iffy on how Machia's moral would be higher while escaping from the police, compared to Shigaraki ordering him to come to him. So Machia has to have put more effort into escaping the mansion then he did when he destroyed that mountain.

What does everyone else think?
 
TheRustyOne said:
So this chapter confirms a problem, Machia needs an order to unleash his full power. The problem is that Machia wasn't order to destroy anything when he did that 7-B feat, which means he should be stronger than that when given an order. Which doesn't make sense with are current assumptions, saying he's 7-B max.

However an even bigger problem is that I don't think the 7-B feat is legit, considering the circumstances and how Machia destroys stuff. I'm pretty sure that destruction was from him running through the mountain. He didn't punch it or waved his hand, he ran through it like he did the city and the forest.

Even without that I was iffy on how Machia's moral would be higher while escaping from the police, compared to Shigaraki ordering him to come to him. So Machia has to have put more effort into escaping the mansion then he did when he destroyed that mountain.

What does everyone else think?
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I was also skeptical on his morale myself although where would Machia rank if the 7-B feat was removed
 
Machia would be 8-A+ if we agree with the feat not being legit, which I believe it isn't. As even without an order Skeptic was afraid for Re-Destro's safety. So he upscales from Re-Destro's feats, and he has two casual 8-A feats of his own.

The anime scene doesn't actually show him destroying the mountain in one hit. The attack we saw was the initial attack he sent against Gran Torino, which is why he's injured. After that I'm positive that he just ran through the mountain, which made that large crater.

So yeah 7-B should be dropped.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Machia would be 8-A+ if we agree with the feat not being legit, which I believe it isn't. As even without an orders Skeptic was afraid for Re-Destro's safety. So he upscales from Re-Destro's feats, and he has multiple casual 8-A feats of his own.

The anime scene doesn't actually show him destroy the mountain in one hit. The attack we saw was the initial attack he sent against Gran Torino, which is why he's injured. After that I'm positive that he just ran through the mountain, which made that large crater.

So yeah 7-B should be dropped.
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Personally I think Machia might deserves an At Least 8-A due to how Casual his 8-A feats are.

Although did Ujiko make a statement about Basing the Nomu off Machia if he did actually state that it could warrant a possibly higher
If he didn’t say that then I’m just recalling poorly and my bad.
 
That's true, since the High-Ends are based off Machia then he might scale to Hood. Hood was still in the testing phase which meant he wasn't perfect, though I'm unsure.

But an At least 8-A rating would be fine if not.

Also Jeanist should have a separate rating with his Carbon Fibers, though it should be noted he doesn't carry that stuff with him for obvious reasons.
 
TheRustyOne said:
That's true, if the High-Ends are based off Machia then he might scale to Hood. Hood was still in the testing phase which meant he wasn't perfect, though I'm unsure.

But an At least 8-A rating would be fine if not.

Also Jeanist should have a separate rating with his Carbon Fibers, though it should be noted he doesn't carry that stuff with him for obvious reasons.
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Maybe the best middle ground for Now is At least 8-A likely 7-C

Or would it be phrased as At Least 8-A likely Up to 7-C
 
The latter. Since we know his strength does vary, I think he should scale to Hood. The doctor seem talk about him in a higher standing than the Nomus. Machia is hyped up to be a walking calamity, with the doctor even stating that when Machia moves only total destruction is inevitable.

So if Hood and Endeavor were over 8x stronger than him, I doubt the doctor would act like that.

Yeah Machia should scale to Hood, there's no way he's weaker.
 
Now if gigantomca lived a hit from 100% deku in the future he would be 7-B again Right?

Also doesn't gigantomca have that town level feat. We should use that and re-calc it useing the official scans
 
Also since this I consider too minor to be worth a crt imma just put this here

Endeavor should actually have 8-A striking strength

Why only 8-A
Because a Propelled Punch from endeavor Fails to One shot and Crush the head of a Hospital High end albeit he does notable damage and breaks its Bones.

But fries it from there to finish it off.

I also don’t think there are any notable cases of him Damaging 7-Cs like Hood with such punches
 
Also gigantomca did do that town level feat but it was calculated with scans instead of official scans, so we should re-calc that feat because he did it in one hit by moving his hand to beat the heroes
 
Endeavor's fist is being propelled by his flames which have 7-C force, why would it be 8-A?

Also what feat are you talking about, the forest feat was done by him running through.
 
Well since no one wanted other characters scaling to Endeavor like that, then yes it is.

Even though that Fat High-End also survived an attack from Endeavor, when it's Quirks were erased, but whatever.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Well since no one wanted other characters scaling to Endeavor like that, then yes it is.

Even though that Fat High-End also survived an attack from Endeavor, when it's Quirks were erased, but whatever.
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7-C striking Strength rating sounds good to me because endeavor really shouldn’t be rated unknown in that area.
 
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