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And your argument is calcs over logic
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I didn’t make that argument at all, I just said I don’t like outlier.And your argument is calcs over logic
So you don’t like consistency?I didn’t make that argument at all, I just said I don’t like outlier.
Consistency varies from person to person. Your idea of consistent scaling is far different than mine, don’t assert yours as if its absoluteSo you don’t like consistency?
You have a weird idea of consistency my friend. How does it make sense for a character to be 7A then struggle to perform a 7B feat in the same scene?Consistency varies from person to person. Your idea of consistent scaling is far different than mine, don’t assert yours as if its absolute
Yeah cause we’re looking at what’s most consistent among the calcs to determine a rating for the verseAnd you say calcs over logic? You’re still basing this consistent scaling off of calcs I fail to see your point.
Again, it varies and you can’t simply claim that it is “weird” because it is different. Can you give me an example of these struggles?You have a weird idea of consistency my friend. How does it make sense for a character to be 7A then struggle to perform a 7B feat in the same scene?
Again, you are using calcs and according to you calcs can’t be over logic YET you’re using calcs. Make that make sense.Yeah cause we’re looking at what’s most consistent among the calcs to determine a rating for the verse
I’m talking about MHA (Heroes Rising Bakugo). You’re really out of the loop if you don’t get what I’m talking about.Again, it varies and you can’t simply claim that it is “weird” because it is different. Can you give me an example of these struggles?
I’ll ask again, can you give me examples of these struggles?I’m talking about MHA (Heroes Rising Bakugo). You’re really out of the loop if you don’t get what I’m talking about.
I’m surprised you can’t understand how we’re looking at what’s most consistent among the calcs to determine a ratingAgain, you are using calcs and according to you calcs can’t be over logic YET you’re using calcs. Make that make sense.
This.Sure simplify it all you want but logic and consistency take priority.
I understand this but your statement itself makes no sense given the nature of it. You go to say calcs over consistency is bad YET youre using calcs to determine the consistency. At least rearrange the statementI’m surprised you can’t understand how we’re looking at what’s most consistent among the calcs to determine a rating
Ok it’s actually pointless discussing this with you cause you don’t even know anything about the CRT, why it was even started or about the calcs used for the verse.I’ll ask again, can you give me examples of these struggles?
I never said it was wrong or the scaling should be removed, i just dont like the word. He came at me dont mess with meThis.
There's a narrative going on that calling things "outlier" is a bad argument. Which is, pardon my language, dumb as ****.
This disdain for the word would be valid if it's used haphazardly and without explanation.
But that's not what's happening here. We had an entire thread involving assessment of calculations and information in-universe to the pursuit of a more logical scaling consistent over what the source material tells us.
It just so happens that the garnered information and consensus lead to the results where 7-A calculations are aberrant results compared to other calcs, feats, and established powerscaling.
It doesn't matter whether or not you like the word "outlier", your personal preferences do not invalidate entire discussions that you haven't even read.
I asked you to link it and I fail to see why it’s so hard to just give this example if it actually exist.Ok it’s actually pointless discussing this with you cause you don’t even know anything about the CRT, why it was even started or about the calcs used for the verse.
Let’s say Deku is calced at FTL and City level at one point but majority of his feats put him at supersonic and wall level. He’s then stated in universe to have trouble with bullets. Calcs over consistency would just having him be rated at City level and FTl even though it is contradicted that’s what I mean by calcs over logic is bad. Logically you’d look at what’s presented by the story and what’s most consistent among his feats to judge his rating not just take the highest or lowest value as fact.I understand this but your statement itself makes no sense given the nature of it. You go to say calcs over consistency is bad YET youre using calcs to determine the consistency. At least rearrange the statement
Ive already said I understood what you were implying but the way you structured the statement and then the arguments you gave after it just didnt match.Let’s say Deku is calced at FTL and City level at one point but majority of his feats put him at supersonic and wall level. He’s then stated in universe to have trouble with bullets. Calcs over consistency would just having him be rated at City level and FTl even though it is contradicted that’s what I mean by calcs over logic is bad. Logically you’d look at what’s presented by the story and what’s most consistent among his feats to judge his rating not just take the highest or lowest value as fact.
And I told you to type in mha in the search bar and find the CRT right there cause it has everything relevant to this conversation on there.I asked you to link it and I fail to see why it’s so hard to just give this example if it actually exist.
“Its pointless talking to you because I don’t want to send proof of my claim.”
Alright then my badIve already said I understood what you were implying but the way you structured the statement and then the arguments you gave after it just didnt match.
The manga may still have dozens of pages left so...“Just have to be patient, this series isn't going anywhere”
• The Final Act.
• Multiple statements from Horikoshi saying it’s coming to its end.
Lol. Oof.
Inb4 it ends next Chapter with Deku coming out of nowhere and instantly killing Shigaraki and AFO with an RKO that barely scuffles the dirt.The manga may still have dozens of pages left so...
Well to be fair, Horikoshi could pull a Kishimoto and start bullying the moon for feats lolHorikoshi is definitely limited by his setting. It's a modern setting and a superhero story at that. Unlike fictional verses, there aren't mountains just lying there waiting to be destroyed. He also can't exactly destroy a city unless he wants to get into genocide levels of causalities.
And unlike other verses the story is limited to earth. There also won't be random meteors appearing just waiting to be busted.
The only way I see higher feats in the future that don't involve air pressure or changing the weather and affecting clouds, is if we get an entire battle in a deserted place. Like a deserted island or something where the characters can just go ham.
If you put it that way, yeah it suddenly sounds a bit weird.Love how Deku’s speed keys go from:
”Athletic human | Hypersonic with 5%” due to a wonky calc.
Why yes, outliers don’t exist, very good, very consistent. If the difference between 5 and 8% is a “small difference” why is 0% and 5% such an extremely huge gap? Because of one outlier in a movie that’s “totally not an outlier and also you’re wrong and this bullet feat cannot be debunked no matter how much evidence proves it wrong”??
Uh, you do realize 5% Deku would be still Hypersonic scaling from Recipro Burst, right? And Deku can move much faster than his base state using his 5%, I don't really get your point.Love how Deku’s speed keys go from:
”Athletic human | Hypersonic with 5%” due to a wonky calc.
Why yes, outliers don’t exist, very good, very consistent. If the difference between 5 and 8% is a “small difference” why is 0% and 5% such an extremely huge gap? Because of one outlier in a movie that’s “totally not an outlier and also you’re wrong and this bullet feat cannot be debunked no matter how much evidence proves it wrong”??
I don't get this argument. Iida only broke the sound barrier with Recipro Extend in Stain arc. At best that's what 5% Deku at best scales to.Uh, you do realize 5% Deku would be still Hypersonic scaling from Recipro Burst, right? And Deku can move much faster than his base state using his 5%, I don't really get your point.
We have Wall level+, High 8-C with 5% despite Deku explicitly stating there's only a small difference in power. There's no such a thing as 0%. One For All increase is exponential.
Iida literally moved 5 meters while Stain's sword was inches away from cutting Shoto, how can you even deny such a feat. Iida also blitzed base Deku while carrying three people in the Sports Festival.I don't get this argument. Iida only broke the sound barrier with Recipro Extend in Stain arc. At best that's what 5% Deku at best scales to.
Of course with wonky anime pixel scaling you can get hypersonic or whatever but Iida wasn't even supersonic in his ordinary mode back then.
In the anime Deku jumped after Iida, and that's far more official than whatever headcanons you have. In the manga we can see Stain noticing Deku only after Iida had reached him as well.And why would 5% Deku scale to that speed anyway? We don’t know when Deku jumped at Stain to punch him. He was almost entirely offscreen, Stain was hyper focused on Iida at the time and didn’t notice Deku until it was too late.
I can't even take this seriously.I like to think Stain just slowed down his sword, only wanting to injure Todoroki and not kill him or completely take his arm off.