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Like he shouldMineta is an important topic everywhere these days .
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Like he shouldMineta is an important topic everywhere these days .
Most people agree, but yeah the Pro-Heroes and a few U.A. students are definitely on his level.The discussion already moved, but I do believe that Endeavor and characters on his level are around on Kamino Might levels of strength.
Even if it may feel like there was a huge gap between them, instances such as Endeavor matching a charged Air Cannon from AFO that was meant for All Might is already telling, and the PLW arc pretty much was intended to take that supposed gap behind us.
Gud.She was forgotten.
I changed it.
Just like how she was in the Overhaul arcShe was forgotten.
That is very sad.Just like how she was in the Overhaul arc
i think even kamino All might is twice as strong than endeavor, It is an existing gap but not so exaggerated, because All Might is not only weakened, but it is with only OFA remains. And AFO is not only weakened, but he is fighting with only a copy of his original quirk. I think it's consistent that way, All might in kamino is not necessarily massively weaker than in the fight against usj nomu or Wolfram, and someone at the level of USJ nomu left Endeavor seriously injured. One might think that the High Ends being superior to USJ Nomu could bring problems to that logic, but I dont think so. Endeavor defeated Hood with the help of hawks to be faster and with attacks based on heat, not impacts, and mirko faced High Ends that were not stabilized, also, let's be honest, the panel where it is said that the High Ends are superior to the upper tier nomus also says that the upper tier have the strength of 10 people, it is likely that USJ Nomu is almost a High end, I can't imagine the stats of the high ends being much higher than 1.01x to USJ NomuThe discussion already moved, but I do believe that Endeavor and characters on his level are around on Kamino Might levels of strength.
Even if it may feel like there was a huge gap between them, instances such as Endeavor matching a charged Air Cannon from AFO that was meant for All Might is already telling, and the PLW arc pretty much was intended to take that supposed gap behind us.
There is a lot more to Quirks than just raw genetics. There are muliple times in MHA where Quirks are portrayed as things equivalent to a person's consciousness or even soul. This is doubly true in the case of AFO who absorbed not only the Quirks of his victims but also their minds. Hence is why AFO is uncomfortable with the sheer amount of hate his victims give him and possibly feels semblamces of shame. This also happens for OFA where even when the bearers die their conscience remained intact in the Quirks that were assimilated into OFA.hey guys, now that I notice, isn't the USJ nomu supposed to have the dna of 4 different people? That implies the possession of 4 quirks, we know that it has regeneration and absorption shock, but wouldn't it be probable that those two other quirks are one of strength and one of speed?
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Maybe? He said himself he wanted to wear one but that he's not worthy of it yet and got silenced by Katsuki.You reckon Deku will add a cape when he returns to UA and is able to get his outfit fixed up?
But ... Why do we consider that Aizawa knows exactly how strong All might is? In the context it looks more than he simply said that because of the immense pain of someone breaking his arm with ease. Because, at that point, if I'm not mistaken, that's the only feat Aizawa saw from USJ Nomu. Or did All Might ever break his arm so that he would know the "exact feeling." Because to be honest, surely someone like Re-Destro could do the exact same thing to Aizawa if he was blind.Introducing new DNA would not give them multiple Quirks, nor is it proof of multiple Quirks, this is stated by Tsukauchi. They have multiple Quirks because AFO transplanted the Quirks into the Nomu. While Garaki can transplant Quirks, the effort/time it takes isn't good enough for mass production. It was the main reason why High-End production had slowed down so much.
He usually just had AFO transfer the Quirks.
Aizawa stated the USJ Nomu was as strong as All Might, even without Quirks. "Looking at any part of his body should be enough to nullify him... That means... This is his base strength! He's easily as strong as All Might..."
And Aizawa was right, the Nomu was equal to USJ All Might until he went Plus Ultra.
Considering Garaki stated he could've given Shigaraki All Might level strength, but didn't so he wouldn't overburden his brain, I'm positive the USJ Nomu strength is All Might level without any Quirks.
Why would a hit from Shigaraki be stronger than one from Hood?It actually says that those in the Upper-Tier are at least as strong as ten average people. Which means the weakest Upper-Tier Nomu are as strong as ten average people combined, it does not say in general. Hood only greatly injured Endeavor because he used a sharp attack, this is a cut, not a bruise from a punch or standard impact. Someone 2X weaker than Endeavor can inflict identical damage with a sharp weapon. Hood never punches Endeavor, he just throws him around.
We don't see how much damage this does because Endeavor is resisting the throw with his propulsion. Shigaraki did less damage than Hood, but that's because his attack was a punch, not a cut. Give him a sword arm and I wouldn't be surprised if he could do far more damage.
In terms of power, I personally believe Kamino All Might stronger. But in terms of durability, I think the two are very close. Considering Endeavor considers Shigaraki to be equal to All Might, and narratively it makes sense for Shigaraki to be stronger. A punch from Hood would've done less damage than the punch from Shigaraki.
Even with that explanation, that would not change that quirks are purely genetic.There is a lot more to Quirks than just raw genetics. There are muliple times in MHA where Quirks are portrayed as things equivalent to a person's consciousness or even soul. This is doubly true in the case of AFO who absorbed not only the Quirks of his victims but also their minds. Hence is why AFO is uncomfortable with the sheer amount of hate his victims give him and possibly feels semblamces of shame. This also happens for OFA where even when the bearers die their conscience remained intact in the Quirks that were assimilated into OFA.
Hence it is probably why just taking someone's DNA, most of the time at least since there are some exceptions, is not enough to gain their Quirks .
I believe someone in this thread compiled a massive post containing the details of what I said but I do not remember where. Hopefully someone comes out about it or the information is found.
Shigaraki had his Quirks erased during that moment, and Endeavor stated he was as strong as All Might. Aizawa seeing his All Might level strength, even though he erased his Quirks, was reminded of the USJ Nomu. Once again this heavily implies that the USJ Nomu's strength is Quirkless.