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Deku and Nine feels like false equivalence. Nine actually has a lightning quirk and we have seen AFO users combine quirks.If Nine “turning lightning into dragons” isn’t simply a stylised shot, then we should add lightning manipulation to Deku’s profile since his Full Cowling lightning tagged and harmed Nine, showing his muscular and skeleton structure, implying it shocked him. Totally not stylisation tho.
I mean Nine not doing something before being brought to the brink of defeat doesnt exactly refute his point either. I mean basically every shounen big clash has a villain doing some asspulls to keep going so nine is basically the same. Him combining lightning and dragons would make sense and you would be the one who would have to disprove without using "stylised" as an option since many things in fiction could be that but they actually happened.(AFO users have shown to combine quirks)Because 99% of his ”argument” is headcanon.
Nine making dragons “isn’t stylised” because he said so, and can’t show a single other instance ever in the entire movie of Nine using lightning to attack by projecting it from his body or forming dragons out of lightning. Yet he’s “correct”.
Likewise, we have never seen Deku use his full cowling lightning to harm someone, ever. But it happens in a single shot in the movie. So now it HAS to be a canon ability he is able to do, instead of, y’know, just being a stylised shot in a movie.
Prove its head canon if Nine on screen had lightning dragons. And it being stylised already was answered with the Deku point as its false equivalence.That’s simply headcanon, so there’s no need for me to respond.
”Things are canon because I, a fan, said they are.”
If one can’t show me Nine firing lightning from his person as an attack, it didn’t happen.
might have to watch that scene, still frames dont exactly give the context in this situation but as of now Id say its just his cells dying or whatever.
Can someone tell me where Nine is shooting lightning from his person out as an attack in these shots? Timmy keeps sending these over and over to prove he is but I can’t see the lightning anywhere. Need help.
This ^ hence why I brought up it being quirk evolution. Being at the brink of death allows your quirk to evolve which tied with his morals allowed him to have his quirk evolve. clearly he did since he’s shown being able to manipulate lightning and create auras something he was never capable of doing at all until the endI mean Nine not doing something before being brought to the brink of defeat doesnt exactly refute his point either. I mean basically every shounen big clash has a villain doing some asspulls to keep going so nine is basically the same. Him combining lightning and dragons would make sense and you would be the one who would have to disprove without using "stylised" as an option since many things in fiction could be that but they actually happened.(AFO users have shown to combine quirks)
Also Deku again feels like false equivalence. I dont remember him actually damaging Nine. Sure, in this case it might be stylised but 1 part of it being that doesnt disprove the other. You dont really know which one is which so its a safer bet so say this one time villain isnt stylised since he has AFO and can actually combine quirks compared to Deku. And he basically did that since the dragons look like lightning.
What’s the new ability tho nine is creating? It’s not like he’s creating an entirely new ability or techniqueAFO can combine quirks to attack but he’s literally never FUSED two quirks together, from what I remember. He uses multiple quirks at once, he doesn’t turn two quirks into one new ability.
He used spring-like limbs and Air Blast and a multiplier to create giant blasts without hurting himself. However, he never did something like use Air Blast and Rivet Stab to create tentacle-like limbs made of air.
Yeah but wouldnt a giant arm be him fusing quirks? I mean they somehow can work together perfectly even AFO making a fist out of that mess so I do think its fusion of some sorts. Not completely out of reach since its MHA.AFO can combine quirks to attack but he’s literally never FUSED two quirks together, from what I remember. He uses multiple quirks at once, he doesn’t turn two quirks into one new ability.
He used spring-like limbs and Air Blast and a multiplier to create giant blasts without hurting himself. However, he never did something like use Air Blast and Rivet Stab to create tentacle-like limbs made of air.
AFO combined his quirks AND FUSED them into a giant arm. The Deku comparison is false equivalence I thinkThat’s still COMBINING quirks, not FUSING them into a new power.
Saying Nine suddenly turned his lightning into dragons is like saying Deku can create tendrils of smoke by using Blackwhip and Smokescreen at the same time.
Yeah but then he would still have to fuse those quirks together into a single arm for them to work, wouldnt it? Like sure he enlarged his arm for the quirks to fit but they would still have to be fused and work together as a single entity for them to work. Or something like that. Combining and fusing could mean similar, maybe the same things in this situation.The giant arm is a quirk; Hypertrophy. It’s called ULTIMATE QUIRK COMBINATION for a reason not NEW QUIRK EX MACHINA.
He’s combined multiple new quirks that retain all their individual powers. Not make an entirely new ability by fusing quirks. That’s like saying Shoto can use his ice and fire to make fire-ice; ice that is as hot as fire. It makes no sense and not how that works.
Dont know what semantics mean. Might have to look it up.No? He’s just combining and using multiple quirks at once, not taking multiple quirks and turning them into a new singular quirk. Stop playing the semantics game. His “ultimate quirk combination” is just his Air Blast + Multipliers + Springlike limbs on a larger scale.
Nine having a “quirk awakening” is a headcanon so I won’t adress it. Either way an awakening only upgrades a quirk logically, not combine two completely different and not related quirks into a single ability.
Literally lightning dragons on screen.Except he didn’t combine lightning or dragons, so that didn’t happen, and there was no quirk awakening. Stop playing the headcanon game. Show me a databook confirming he had an awakening.
Also, his purple lines are his cells dying. That’s pretty obvious. We literally see his cells turn from green to purple and then the purple lines appear on his body.
While the storm calc was rejected, All Might will be 7-A+ along with other characters.hello. Why all might not 7-A? I thought his storm calc is mountain level.
They're blue dragons that come out of his back, they even burn black when heated instead of melting into a liquid. I don't see why the dragons were considered to be made of water at all.Why does Nine have water manipulation? His dragons weren’t confirmed to be made of water, were they?? Nor do they splash on the ground when destroyed. From what I remember anyway. They are also solid enough to ram straight through stone and stuff without losing form.
******* finally.While the storm calc was rejected, All Might will be 7-A+ along with other characters.
Just give it some time, the upgrades will likely go through very soon.
why was it rejected and can you please send me the 7-A+ calc thing?While the storm calc was rejected, All Might will be 7-A+ along with other characters.
Just give it some time, the upgrades will likely go through very soon.
They are literally lightning at start so then either continue or since its quirk combination they get the boost but look regular. He literally tried attacking yet got kicked in the face in the final battle basically overwhelmed. We literally see him using lightning and attempting to attack yet fails since it means Deku and Bakugou at 100% are even faster. You're literally going against what is shown on screen of him using lightning yet still not being fast enough meaning Deku and Bakugou at 100% are even faster.You mean the screenshots where there are only dragons, no lightning, Nine holding lightning between his hands but doesn’t attack with it ever, and Nine seconds away from being kicked in the face by Deku, still not using his lightning to attack and there is no lightning anywhere in the screenshot? Sure.
Nine did not create lightning dragons and I won’t debunk it here AGAIN. You can go here: https://vsbattles.com/threads/did-nine-create-lightning-around-himself.121429/#post-3994516
Yeah, lightning timers who have never timed lightning. Ever. In fact, they got blitzed by lightning multiple times. But sure.
You’d have an easier time trying to convince me the verse is FTL. This is a joke, but you probably believe the verse is FTL anyways.
I'm not going into the detail about the storm, but basically All Might didn't create the storm the way the calculation assumes.why was it rejected and can you please send me the 7-A+ calc thing?
Nine is not a lightning timer, nothing I've seen on this thread or the others make him equal lightning speed.Lightning timers like Nine yet still being overwhelmed by 100% Deku and Bakugou.
So yeah MHA is MHS+ at least.
Literally used lightning and tried using it yet was overwhelmed by Deku and Bakugou.Nine is not a lightning timer, nothing I've seen on this thread or the others make him equal lightning speed.