Mori Dan vs Sailor Moon

[Robo432343]

Mori Dan

17 years after Mujin Park's betrayal, Mori Jin became a name of infamy and terror. Forced into hiding, Mori Jin became Mori Dan to protect both him and his adopted sister, Ahan Dan. After revealing his identity to the world, he would go on to start a war against Mujin Park and his followers...

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Sailor Moon (Manga)

Usagi Tsukino (月野 うさぎ, Tsukino Usagi) is the Sailor Guardian of love and justice: Sailor Moon (セーラームーン, Seeraa Muun). She is the reincarnation of Princess Serenity (プリンセス・セレニティ; Purinsesu Sereniti). Originally from a prosperous civilization on the Moon known as the Moon Kingdom, she was reborn...

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Both 2-C
SBA

Round 1: Speed Equal
Round 2: Speed Unequal

 

[Robo432343]

i'll vote incon
Hades can't interact with Mori Dan's abstract existence type 1 but he still has infinite speed

 

[Memonto_Mori]

Hades is much faster than mori and can transcend immo9 also has an abstract existence in hades Can Mori transcend a conceptual immo8 or can he transcend the passive haxes of hades?

 

[Robo432343]

Hades is much faster than mori and can transcend immo9 also has an abstract existence in hades Can Mori transcend a conceptual immo8 or can he transcend the passive haxes of hades?

Hades cant interact with CM type 1 and information type 2, thats why the passives wont work
Hades abstract existence is too vague here

 

[G33kedzinx]

Hades cant interact with CM type 1 and information type 2, thats why the passives wont work
Hades abstract existence is too vague here

There's no Type 1 concept for mori's abstract existence on his page, and since hades is also abstract on a conceptual level he should be able to interact with him just fine. What even is hades's type of concept manipulation, why did you use him if you didn’t know ?

 

[Robo432343]

There's no Type 1 concept for mori's abstract existence on his page,

i accidentally said CM 1 for Mori

and since hades is also abstract on a conceptual level he should be able to interact with him just fine.

No, Hades still cant interact with information manip 2 and duality

What even is hades's type of concept manipulation, why did you use him if you didn’t know ?

judging by the profiles, it seems Hades CM is type 2 based

 

[DavidTPPM]

How is Mori slower when he already exists across all time and space? Hades can move anywhere in 0 time but Mori exists everywhere and everywhen in 0 time.

 

[Robo432343]

How is Mori slower when he already exists across all time and space? Hades can move anywhere in 0 time but Mori exists everywhere and everywhen in 0 time.

omnipresence is not a speed

 

[DavidTPPM]

omnipresence is not a speed

Yeah but it's still listed as a speed for some reason. Moris speed itself would be immeasurable as he can move anywhere and anywhen in time by extention tho so like.... Yk

 

[Robo432343]

Moris speed itself would be immeasurable as he can move anywhere and anywhen in time by extention tho so like.... Yk

Mori's speed is MFTL but his state of existence is omnipresent

are you saying anyone who is omnipresent has immeasurable speed?

 

[DavidTPPM]

Mori's speed is MFTL but his state of existence is omnipresent

That's not what his page says so at best you would have uhhh, unknown reaction speed? Idk how the wiki treats this.
Either way GoH is due for a huge speed revision, my lazy ass just needs to get the calcs ready and stuff.

are you saying anyone who is omnipresent has immeasurable speed?

No? Because you can only exist in all of space and still be omnipresent. Mori is omnipresent throughout both space and time.

 

[Memonto_Mori]

Hades cant interact with CM type 1 and information type 2, thats why the passives wont work
Hades abstract existence is too vague here

Mori can't overcome conceptual immo8 also the information type 2 of the mori is not strong enough to be considered wincon mori also has no CM1 there is CM2 Hades is still superior incon at worst

 

[DavidTPPM]

Hades has no layers to his mind manip resistance on his profile, does he have any accepted layers? If not he's going to want to give Mori a sloppy toppy the moment he sees him

 

[DavidTPPM]

I also don’t see layers to his EE resistance (wait did my dumbass put EE into the HLET? ) or soul hax.

Also no resistance to paralysis, fear manipulation, sealing, power null, or conceptual manipulation

 

[Hasty12345]

Hades’ page is outdated, please refer to my most recent revision where some of his abilities are removed and/or altered

 

[Robo432343]

ok i changed it to sailor moon

 

[Hypertornado099]

ok i changed it to sailor moon

Sailor Moon is even more outdated

 

[DavidTPPM]

Tbh Mori Dans 2C key isn't the best either. A very large amount of minor abilities are missing and the only layers I had approved are the ones that affect his lower keys. It's alright, definitely one of the best GoH profiles, but the 2C key is definitely due for an update.

Setto was originally going to fix it up but lost interest, and I haven't even touched the sandbox yet
(Moris Dan and Jin profiles are mostly solid but Dans weakest and strongest keys are far from perfect)

 

[Robo432343]

Sailor Moon is even more outdated

It got fixed remember

 

[Hypertornado099]

It got fixed remember

Not yet its still bad and misleading