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Throw me and Superstar to Incon
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Monkey D. Luffy vs Gon Freecss
- Thread starter CiscoTheSoto
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when exactly has Luffy done that against an attack way above his own?
Also, Gon can block Luffy's 2x amp with his amps as they also apply to dura.
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look dont get mad but like,i can see why.
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Same fr
I need to rewatch Yorknew Arc cause I really didn't care for it back then and skipped some of the episodes I think
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are you not snook
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the only thing i forgot where the names...thats it..
GodlyCharmander
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Scissors and Paper are Gon's only wincons here, his arsenal is only helpful dealing with the force of nature called Monkey D. Luffy.
Most of Luffy's attacks wouldn't be able to damage Gon because of his focused stat amp that can go up to 420 tons. (Obviously, Luffy can hit where Gon isn't coating himself in Nen, but he'd have to luck out since he has no focken idea)
Luffy would have to outlast Gon's aura consumption for about 30 minutes or so, then he one shots aura-less Gon.
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Gon can only use Aura for thirty minutes?????
WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SO
Luffy outlasts like a DEMON
WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SO
Luffy outlasts like a DEMON
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oh no, what have you done, you awaken him
CALM DOWN I ACTUALLY DID READ THIS A WHILE AGO AND FORGOT TO MENTION IT.
GodlyCharmander
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If he constantly uses it for protection, yes.
Obviously. That's Luffy's literal only wincon other than OOC BFR, lmfao.
But he needs to not die in those 30 minutes.
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Ans he wont run away unless he knows this...which he wont...
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Rubber boy FRA
GodlyCharmander
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I also vote incon now.
Comparable skills, Gon can no-sell Luffy's attack with amps, but Luffy outlasts his amp's duration, Gon has a sword and energy 5x stronger than Luffy, but hitting this is unknown (Gon would come up with a plan in the midst of battle to lure Luffy in), it's invisible, but Luffy has the range,
it's a back and forth of advantages and disadvantages, it's pretty damn 50/50 for me, inconclusive.
Comparable skills, Gon can no-sell Luffy's attack with amps, but Luffy outlasts his amp's duration, Gon has a sword and energy 5x stronger than Luffy, but hitting this is unknown (Gon would come up with a plan in the midst of battle to lure Luffy in), it's invisible, but Luffy has the range,
it's a back and forth of advantages and disadvantages, it's pretty damn 50/50 for me, inconclusive.
Jibz
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The whole point of that was them waiting for eachother to make a move, with Gon charging so the fodder wouldnt know what move he’d use. Gon had no knowledge on his opponent, or their capability and you expect him to just whip out scissor off the bat?
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Add on that Luffy's double handed moves are 4x stronger than Gon
Also is Gon immune to getting dizzy? Cause Luffy might spin him around
No it isn't bro
Jibz
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30 minutes at supersonic speed would mean alot of fighting in that time space, so it kinda is
GodlyCharmander
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4x 10% Aura (to a limb) Gon, that is.
40% Aura Gon is about as equal.
Gon using Ren is 100%, but it's distributed to his body, so about as strong as ~20% Aura. (And it lasts even kess)
Not at all, but Gon doesn't need his physical senses to fight thanks to Nen's physical sensing.
Also Spatial Awareness if he uses his limited En, which I think it's still not added to the profile.
GodlyCharmander
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Both interpretations of the shows don't support that. Knuckle vs Gon lasted one or two chapters and it was 20 minutes.
Kaido vs Luffy, lmfao, it was 10 minutes just in round 1
Jibz
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If anything both arguments would support my stance? That in a short timeframe alot of fighting can happen. Also using manga as a basis when grasping the fighting in a timeframe makes 0 sense and we should use real life logic as itd be the most consistent.
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These dudes can fight for hours and it doesn't feel like days to them.
Gotcha
Damn
Dizziness doesn't really shut off senses, it just messes up whatever senses you have.
Makes you unbalanced, nausea, vertigo, things like that
Same issue with above, but it'll help bring him back to earth
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We can't use real life to counter manga when we're working with manga events
Jibz
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Yeah because manga logic is manga logic. If we view questions through this lense thigns get inconsistent, heavily. Which is why u view it from an impartial lense. Because different series can show fighting and its relation to time in drastically different ways
Jibz
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So we just ignore all the glaring inconsistensies using such a lense would bring? Using common logic faster = more fighting in a certain time space then being less faster. To ignore that in favour of manga logic, would bring glaring holes.
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That's just the author having no idea how fast their characters are?
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The values we pull from the manga are headcanon ratings created by calcs which are also headcanon.
In the sense of the fight, 30 minutes isn't a very long time.
GodlyCharmander
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Gon: 3 (Kenboxx, Nierre, Cisco)
Luffy: 5 (Dareaperman, Popted, Velox, Snook, Lugh)
Incon: 6 (Chanli, KingTempest, GodlyCharmander, TheUltimate, XDragnoir, Speedster)
Grace has been avoided.
Also Nice 5-5-5 we have going on here.
I have no focken idea: 1 (Jibz)
Luffy: 5 (Dareaperman, Popted, Velox, Snook, Lugh)
Incon: 6 (Chanli, KingTempest, GodlyCharmander, TheUltimate, XDragnoir, Speedster)
Grace has been avoided.
Also Nice 5-5-5 we have going on here.
I have no focken idea: 1 (Jibz)
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Jibz
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neutral not incon, leaning on Luffy ngl
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we need 3 people to give 1 vote for Gon, Luffy, and Incon each!
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Like, you're saying they will exchange blows at the speed normal humans do then? Like, wtf?
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Changing my vote to Incon
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No but they don't take it as if they're the flash and that every second is like 20 minutes to them
Jibz
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I feel like you answered my question, by not answering it. This isnt “irl” logic, its genuine common sense, and using manga logic over it could lead to inconsistensy. So why use manga logic over common sense?
GodlyCharmander
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Neutral is "Well, any of them could win", no?
that's incon-
speedster352
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Changing my vote to incon
GodlyCharmander
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Updated.
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Lmao
speedster352
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Please just vote incon
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