• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Monika vs Novel Kars

Status
Not open for further replies.
Ogbunabali said:
She deletes because she realizes that there's no point in keeping the game because everyone will be sad at the end of the day. And it's not an actual fight, and she didn't delete because she was fighting or for power.
Click to expand...
She realizes that there's no point in keeping the game because everyone will be sad at the end of the day and deletes Kars.

Also, yes, it was a fight (a fight is literally any type of conflict between two character), Sayori was going to take over the game, Monika appeared and said "lol no" and deleted everything.
 
Also, keep in mind OP has placed the fight during Act 3, meaning when Kars arrives at the battlefield, the script has already been deleted and the world is a timeless place where nothing can happen against Monika's will.
 
She only used the mindhax technique in order to avoid "breaking the fourth wall" and to let the player play the game normally. And she was under absolutely no pressure during this.

Again, once she dropped the act and truly wanted someone dead she went for EE ASAP. It's dumb to assume she'd mindhax Kars and just patientely wait for him to kill her.
 
Ok never mind that.

Does she or does she not start being non existant?
 
Also, I just realized this entire discussion is pointless anyway because the OP said "the Club President wants to delete this bizzare half naked intruder", meaning the current battle assumption is that Monika just wants him deleted.
 
She doesn't start non-existent. But the point is that her she doesn't need her physical mind to exist and think. So affecting her physical mind won't actually incap her.
 
By the way, I'm not voting Monika because this is a total stomp against Kars due to having no defence against Plot.
 
It doesn't matter if she exists physically. He will still affect her mind.
 
It's the same issue as people arguing you can knock out someone with Godly regen. If the erasure of your mind as a whole doesn't impede you, neither should just damaging or manipulating it.
 
Ok that's not how it works. You either treat her as a physical being that gets affected by physical stuff, that after she gets killed turns non existent. Or treat her as a non existent from the start and make her physical body be something like an avatar or a vessel or something at which point this becomes a stomp, because there's nothing Kars can do.
 
"If the erasure of your mind as a whole doesn't impede you, neither should just damaging or manipulating it."

I'd like a counter to this.

Also it's honestly not "She turns nonexistent once killed" and more like "she can keep living even after being erased, thus making her nonexsitent". But lower levels of damage like mindhax or getting punched really hard shouldn't kill her either.
 
You can't have your cake and eat it too, pick one.

She is either not non existent at all and only becomes one when she is killed, or she is always non existent.
 
Kars trying to affect her mind triggers her turning into non existent, because its taking away her mind, which she can live without. Also, keep in mind Kars will never get to use any of his Stands on her regardless.
 
"Also it's honestly not "She turns nonexistent once killed" and more like "she can keep living even after being erased, thus making her nonexsitent". But lower levels of damage like mindhax or getting punched really hard shouldn't kill her either."

She may have a physical body, but her "true" form is nonexistent. Same goes for her mind.
 
Well it's a stomp then, there's literally nothing Kars can do to a non existent.
 
Well there is always the option of Kars copying Monika's nonexistence and stalemating, but it's rather unlikely.
 
Not sure how NLF Kars's understanding is treated. If we do assume he can understand her, that would happen basically instantly when the fight starts.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

Nemu13
Novel kars little revision? I guess?
Replies
15
Views
2K
Chritin
Chritin
Chritin
Novel Kars & Dio AP CRT
Replies
11
Views
1K
Chritin
Chritin
Mariogoods
Kars (JORGE JOESTAR) VS Sosuke Aizen
Replies
7
Views
4K
Overlord1
DRW001
  • Locked
Beyond's Qualitative Superiority (JORGE JOESTAR)
2
Replies
50
Views
11K
Vyfourthaccount
Vyfourthaccount
JohnCenaNation
  • Article Article
All JoJos (JJBA) vs Kars (JJBA)
5 6 7
Replies
262
Views
21K
Axl233
Axl233
Back
Top