Mobile Suit Gundam Discussion Thread

[Scottycj256]

anyways, i translated it using Yandex and Google

i also translated it using DeepL, so I'm going to use the DeepL translation

 

[Urshani]

he calls anything that isnt 1-A or above fodder

fodder in power? but in writing?

 

[Scottycj256]

fodder in terms of power

 

[Scottycj256]

when in actuality its like 3-A/High 3-A/Low 2-C upwards that's high tier

 

[Scottycj256]

i derailed the conversation again so uhh... I wonder what the Axis Shock would be considered

 

[Scottycj256]

Amuro basically draws upon every single soul on Earth to empower the Nu Gundam and allow him to push Axis out of Earth's orbit

 

[Scottycj256]

i wonder if we could directly apply an AP calc to the Axis Shock

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Hold up, why the upgrade to 6-C again?

Also I gotta point out that the Unicorn Gundam and the sinanju were both threatened by re entry. So take that as you will

 

[Scottycj256]

I just looked on the Gundam Wiki, apparently Gryps II, the Colony Laser in Unicorn, has an output of 92 million gigawatts

 

[Scottycj256]

Hold up, why the upgrade to 6-C again?

Also I gotta point out that the Unicorn Gundam and the sinanju were both threatened by re entry. So take that as you will

6-C because the Qubuley was able to tank a blast from ZZ's High-Mega Cannon, which was stated to have a power output 1/5 of a Colony Laser's output

there was also a mass production model of ZZ that was rendered obsolete by the events of Unicorn

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

6-C because the Qubuley was able to tank a blast from ZZ's High-Mega Cannon, which was stated to have a power output 1/5 of a Colony Laser's output

Seem fine I suppose. Scan?

 

[Scottycj256]

are gigawatt hours considered the same thing as normal gigawatts

 

[Scottycj256]

Seem fine I suppose. Scan?

the scan and supporting feat are on my message wall

 

[Scottycj256]

the DeepL, Google Translate, and Yandex Translate translations all translate into "High Mega Cannon has 1/5 the power of a Colony Laser"

 

[Scottycj256]

also i still need to figure out how 92 million gigawatts converts into gigawatt hours

 

[Scottycj256]

all conversion tools online never allow me to convert from gigawatts or joules per second to the units i need in order to pull off conversions, like gigawatt hours or normal joules

its so ******* irritating

 

[Scottycj256]

i ******* knew i had something wrong with my calculations

 

[Scottycj256]

i recalced the colony laser's output, using Gryps II this time.

I straight calced the output in gigawatts to joules per second, and then converted it to tons of TNT, and i got 21 megatons of TNT

City level

 

[Scottycj256]

so uhhh, yea. All of the mobile suits post ZZ get downgraded to Low 7-B, due to the High Mega Cannon scaling to 1/5 of 21 megatons

 

[Dragonstitch]

honestly if the colony laser is that level then the gundam surviving the Zaku explosion might be an outlier if it is a lot higher then that.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

honestly if the colony laser is that level then the gundam surviving the Zaku explosion might be an outlier if it is a lot higher then that.

Not really, the Gundam never tanked the full yield of the 7-A explosion. So really, his duration should be much lower due to inverse square law. I remember someone doing an inverse square law of that feat and it yielded somewhere in the low end kilotons range

 

[Scottycj256]

honestly if the colony laser is that level then the gundam surviving the Zaku explosion might be an outlier if it is a lot higher then that.

Zaku explosion is most definitely lower than that, considering Death Battle's calc didnt use inverse square law

 

[Scottycj256]

besides, Late UC reaches Tier 6 anyways

https://topstrongest.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MAD_SOULER/Victory_Gundam:_A_big_explosion

 

[Scottycj256]

also uhhhh, I forgot other Verses' general discussion threads discuss news on their verse so uhhh

 

[Scottycj256]

i hope Witch from Mercury is good

Its probably gonna be a SEED esque series with a female magical girl macguffin but i hope its good anyways

 

[Dragonstitch]

yeah I hope it is good as well. though if it is like seed then let's hope the suits have a good design to them.

 

[Scottycj256]

We should do a list of most cynical Gundam series to most idealistic

I'll go first, and see if other people can fill in the blanks

1. Victory Gundam
2. Zeta Gundam
3. Hathaway's Flash
4. Iron Blooded Orphans
5. Gundam SEED
6. Gundam Unicorn
7. Gundam 00
8. Reconguista in G
9. Turn A Gundam
10. Mobile Fighter G Gundam

 

[Scottycj256]

In my opinion, IBO and Hathaway are both tied for third

But I'd be more inclined to say Hathaway is more cynical than IBO considering they don't really hide it underneath a veil of "oh I'm fighting for my friends and we keep moving forward until we find the place we belong". Instead Hathaway acknowledges how ****** the Universal Century is and how right Char was to force the people off the Earth to let it heal and let humanity transcend it's limits in space

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Can someone tell me the full value for Low 7-B+? Because if it's close enough, I think it can upscale to 7-B

 

[Scottycj256]

4.2 megatons

 

[Scottycj256]

It's not gonna be City level any time soon lol...

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I'd say it could, or the very least the destroy mode could upscale tbh. Considering: Destroy mode > Unicorn > Nu > ZZ

 

[Scottycj256]

problem is we don't have a multiplier for how much the Destroy mode amps the Gundam

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

problem is we don't have a multiplier for how much the Destroy mode amps the Gundam

You don't need multipliers for upscaling

 

[N_Kardashev]

isnt everything up to Turn A canon to each other, then again there are numerous fan theories on how to make CE and AD fit into the Dark History database

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

isnt everything up to Turn A canon to each other, then again there are numerous fan theories on how to make CE and AD fit into the Dark History database

I remember the whole Turn A thing got retconned. Which makes sense considering I don't see how all previous series could tie into Turn A or even each other.

Btw, where does the Unicorn's Class 50 LS come from?

 

[Urshani]

Turn A strongest Gundam

 

[Scottycj256]

isnt everything up to Turn A canon to each other, then again there are numerous fan theories on how to make CE and AD fit into the Dark History database

All of the timelines are technically they're own canon, which is why I talk about AUs like UC, AC, PD, AD, CE, AG. They are all separate timelines that are technically canon, and they all converge into Turn A's Dark History

 

[Scottycj256]

Turn A Gundam is technically the final Gundam chronologically

Like, period

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

So are we going with the city level or what? I'm fine with the recent calc but if there is an update with a better value then i'm happy with it