Mobile Suit Gundam Discussion Thread

[N_Kardashev]

its also said it could solo the ELS (without pilot factors like stamina)

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I also already have a sandbox for one of the UC Gundam pilots

Banagher Links

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Scottycj256/sandbox6

the 7-A rating for the Gundam is a placeholder until we can get a proper calc of the Zaku explosion

Tbh I prefer if you would slim down that summary

 

[Scottycj256]

done, also how do I get rid of files that I've uploaded? I've ran images of the Unicorn through a transparent background tool and want the originals removed so I can put the new images on

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

done, also how do I get rid of files that I've uploaded? I've ran images of the Unicorn through a transparent background tool and want the originals removed so I can put the new images on

Just replace those images?

 

[Scottycj256]

I can't overwrite the images for some reason, so I just reuploaded them

I'll try to see if an admin can get the original images deleted

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I'll try fix it later on. And I'll try working on slimming down that summary. It looks tedious being that long imo

 

[Scottycj256]

I slimmed down the summary to cut out the details about the ending of Unicorn, so it should be easier to read

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Doesn't the Unicorn have a satellite pulling feat somewhere?

 

[Scottycj256]

I don't recall such thing off the top of my head

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Also what about the High Hypersonic feat? Where is it from?

 

[Scottycj256]

most of the ratings I'm using besides the Island level feat are placeholders until we can get actual calcs for everything, they're all based on Death Battle's calculations. We'll definitely replace them though when we can get our own calcs. the HHS one was where supposedly Amuro could react at Mach 25 speeds due to seeing mobile suits out of his range, though Death Battle never gave their reasoning for that. The Rel+/SoL speeds i have for beam weapons is going off the assumption that they function like particle beams

 

[Scottycj256]

If we could actually get someone from Death Battle's research team to contribute here by recalculating the Zaku explosion using inverse square law and giving the reason for HS+ and HHS, then that'd help tremendously

but thats only a dream

 

[Dragonstitch]

Okay I think I wording things, they did give a reason for the mach 15. the zaku 2's top speed was calced at mach 5 with the gundam scaling to char's zaku which is 3x faster than a normal zaku. though they claimed the magnetic coating gives a 27% speed boost to the gundam. and looking through the episode the HHS comes from Amero supposedly reacting to things to small and fast for military scanners to pick up according to an info card.

 

[Scottycj256]

ah, so UC mobile suit speed would be anywhere between Mach 5 to Mach 15 if we go with DB's calc

pretty sus but it works as a placeholder until we get calcs of our own

 

[Dragonstitch]

If that magnetic coating boost is true it would be mach 19.05. Which is from what I remember basically obsolete by the time zeta takes place. So suits zeta onwards are likely faster than that, considering by 0083: Stardust Memory the GM custom which seems to be stated to have the mobility of a Gundam-type MS, and had the magnetic coating but was considered unremarkable.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Also the Unicorn phenex should be more powerful than the Unicorn and Banshee right?

The Phenex easily stomped the Neo Zeong version of the Sinanju Stein, which should be comparable to the original Sinanju. And the awakened Unicorn even seemed to somewhat struggle against the Original Neo Zeong

 

[Dragonstitch]

It could mean it is stronger but it can also mean the Neo Zeong 2 was weaker as the Neo Zeong 2 was mostly made out of spare parts, and had a less skilled pilot.

 

[Scottycj256]

Yea, Zoltan was nowhere near as experienced as Full Frontal, and Jona was mediocre at best and still stomped Zoltan

Which goes to show how skilled Banagher actually is

Phenex and Narrative would likely struggle super hard against Full Frontal's Neo Zeong

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I mean experience shouldn't change how powerful a mobile suit is. I don't see why the grey neo zeong would be much weaker physically than the original. And physically speaking, the phone dealt much greater damage in a shirt amount of time against the neo zeong than the other unicorns did

 

[Dragonstitch]

another thing to remember is the Neo Zeong 2 lacks the biggest defensive option of the Full Frontal's Neo Zeong had. as well in that fight you can see the Phenex had that aura that shows it was being amped by the new type ghosts. so it was not the Phenex's own power that was making it a stomp.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

How much value ZZ High-Mega Cannon gonna be btw?

 

[Dragonstitch]

How much value ZZ High-Mega Cannon gonna be btw?

if we go with the output being one-fifth the Colony laser like it is stated from the 1/100 manual that would be 14.62 gigatons.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

if we go with the output being one-fifth the Colony laser like it is stated from the 1/100 manual that would be 14.62 gigatons.

 

[Dragonstitch]

also I checked the final fight between the ZZ gundam, and the Qubeley. and it appears the Qubeley survived a hit from the High-Mega Cannon

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

That mean only ZZ and Qubeley that scaled?

Then if i'm right, 2nd Zeon Wars until Unicorn Era MS would be Island level

 

[Dragonstitch]

likely the 2nd Zeon Wars until Unicorn Era MS go to Island level. as by the time of unicorn the federation discontinued the Mass Production Type ZZ Gundam which had a slightly toned down version of the High-Mega Cannon.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Hmm, make sense

I think we should make the calc blog about ZZ High-Mega Cannon and evaluated it to calc members (alongside the Solar Ray Feat)

 

[Scottycj256]

holy what the ****

UC Mobile Suits themselves post Char's Rebellion scale directly to Island level????

 

[Scottycj256]

actually it could be higher than 14 gigatons, considering the Colony Laser was massively superior to the Solar Ray, which is what the High-Mega Cannon is actually scaling off of

 

[Scottycj256]

Assuming that the Colony Laser is baseline High 6-C due to being superior to the Solar Ray, the during and post Char's Rebellion mobile suits would be 20 gigatons

 

[Scottycj256]

likely the 2nd Zeon Wars until Unicorn Era MS go to Island level. as by the time of unicorn the federation discontinued the Mass Production Type ZZ Gundam which had a slightly toned down version of the High-Mega Cannon.

would the Zaku explosion only scale to pre-ZZ mobile suits then

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Assuming that the Colony Laser is baseline High 6-C due to being superior to the Solar Ray, the post Char's Rebellion mobile suits would be 20 gigatons

That's more plausible then

 

[Scottycj256]

I'll need help making a blog post about this

Putting up the feats of the Solar Ray and the conversions i used, as well as scans for ZZ's High-Mega Cannon, feats of Qubuley tanking the High-Mega Cannon, and proof all post-ZZ mobile suits scale to Island level

 

[Dragonstitch]

well the High-Mega Cannon will likely need translated on site as I am going off the translation from the gundam wiki right now. but I can get the scan and the Qubuley fight.

 

[Scottycj256]

both the scan and the fight look usable

 

[Urshani]

gundam finally coming back to this site

although i don't think much people care about verses that aren't "cool man fights"

 

[Scottycj256]

i know a friend who does powerscaling that genuinely doesnt give a shit about anything that isnt 1-A

whenever i hear what he says im just like "laaaaaaaaaaaame"

 

[Urshani]

i know a friend who does powerscaling that genuinely doesnt give a shit about anything that isnt 1-A

what?

 

[Scottycj256]

he calls anything that isnt 1-A or above fodder

 

[Scottycj256]

which is bullshit since he's basically calling a good majority of fiction fodder