Mobile Suit Gundam Discussion Thread

[Scottycj256]

I'm going with Low 7-B+ for Char's Counterattack to Unicorn/Narrative mobile suits

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

How much value of it again?

 

[Scottycj256]

4.1-4.2 megatons

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

All of the timelines are technically they're own canon, which is why I talk about AUs like UC, AC, PD, AD, CE, AG. They are all separate timelines that are technically canon, and they all converge into Turn A's Dark History

Wait what

 

[Dragonstitch]

yeah Turn A treats every timeline of gundam as a part of it's own timeline.

 

[Scottycj256]

what he said

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

2-C Turn A lmao

I don't really get that tbh. So did turn A turn every show into a single timeline or is the turn A timeline just happen to be all the different shows combined

 

[Scottycj256]

all of the timelines converge into one

that's what the Dark History is before Turn A

 

[Scottycj256]

Turn A was Yoshiyuki Tomino's way of "affirmatively accepting all of the Gundam series"

by just making everything at once ******* canon

 

[Urshani]

if gundam gets like a 2-A spinoff with otherwise normal gundams (just killing multiversal gods, not the pinnacle of all gundams) would Turn A scale above?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Turn A was Yoshiyuki Tomino's way of "affirmatively accepting all of the Gundam series"

by just making everything at once ******* canon

So basically the Turn A timeline is everything single timeline just combining into one timeline for some reason.

Huh...

 

[Scottycj256]

if gundam gets like a 2-A spinoff with otherwise normal gundams (just killing multiversal gods, not the pinnacle of all gundams) would Turn A scale above?

Super Robot Wars

 

[Sero]

Super Robot Wars

I have been summoned.

 

[Scottycj256]

I might be completely off but isnt SRW 2-A with Gundams

 

[Sero]

I might be completely off but isnt SRW 2-A with Gundams

I've only started my journey into SRW (I'm on SRW OG remakes for PS2), But from what i've seen and heard.....probably?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I thought SRW was 2-B

 

[Dragonstitch]

I might be completely off but isnt SRW 2-A with Gundams

they can fight the anti spiral in one of the games. With SRW anti spiral being 2-A. At least from what i can remember.

 

[Dragonstitch]

So I did find something out. the Gundam Delta Kai a suit that is stronger than Mass Production Type ZZ Gundam can only handle firing it's High Mega Cannon at 49% the power of the ZZ gundam's High Mega Cannon. According to it's 1/144 manual.

 

[N_Kardashev]

if gundam gets like a 2-A spinoff with otherwise normal gundams (just killing multiversal gods, not the pinnacle of all gundams) would Turn A scale above?

no, only jesus yamato scales

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Would the Zeta Gundam scale to Low 7-B+. IIRC, it's shown as comparable to the Qubeley.

Also where would the Delta Plus scale? My man was done dirty and disrespected by the Banshee

 

[Scottycj256]

Delta Plus is Low 7-B+ since its a post ZZ mobile suit

 

[Scottycj256]

Also, could I get away with saying OYW-Gryps Conflict mobile suits are like Small Town level-Town level since you said the inverse square law was in Kilotons

 

[Scottycj256]

I'll do that tbh

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Delta Plus is Low 7-B+ since its a post ZZ mobile suit

So would it be superior to ZZ or something. What would it's justification be?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Also I feel that Banagher should have a silver bullet key.

 

[Scottycj256]

The justification is that it was made right after ZZ, in UC 0090. The Federation as we see even in the OYW is constantly R&Ding mobile suits and cutting edge technologies to gain an edge in upcoming battles and sometimes mobile suits that are ahead of the curve are discarded as irrelevant a month later, or even mere weeks later, when they create a new model that far surpasses the original in every way. Thus ZZ is put into mass production and then new mobile suits that are better than ZZ's mass production model are created.

 

[Scottycj256]

And thus every mobile suit made post ZZ is Low 7-B+ scaling directly off of ZZ and Qubuley

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

And thus every mobile suit made post ZZ is Low 7-B+ scaling directly off of ZZ and Qubuley

Fair I suppose.

Also the Banshee shit-stomped Delta. I feel that should be noted

 

[Scottycj256]

Yea, because Banshee is a massively higher degree of Low 7-B+ than Delta Plus is, since the Unicorn Gundam units are just batshit insane compared to everything up to that point. Hell I'd argue the Phenex is inferior to both the Unicorn and Banshee since the Vist Foundation had 3 years worth of R&D to improve both the Unicorn and Banshee compared to Phenex which just sped off with Rita in the cockpit.

 

[Dragonstitch]

One thing I found out they only made 4 ZZ's mass production models before discarding it for newer more powerful mobile suits. the last one that was in use was to an ace pilot before he was given the Gundam Delta Kai.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I'm hoping we get the Zaku explosion calced soon. So that I can make profiles for the Thunderbolt and Atlas Gundam.

I'll probably try my hand at the Narrative Gundam. It should be At least Low 7-B+ for being a prototype to the Nu and should be superior to the ZZ.

The Narrative can also fight the Sinanju Stein, a variant of the Sinanju. So that's something I guess.

 

[Scottycj256]

tbh I wish people would actually put something like "Low 7-B+" onto tier rankings so that we don't have to guess whether its high end or low end

 

[Sero]

Same, but we work with what we got i suppose

 

[Scottycj256]

I'll start the trend that everyone will follow

 

[MagiSinbad]

Yea, because Banshee is a massively higher degree of Low 7-B+ than Delta Plus is, since the Unicorn Gundam units are just batshit insane compared to everything up to that point. Hell I'd argue the Phenex is inferior to both the Unicorn and Banshee since the Vist Foundation had 3 years worth of R&D to improve both the Unicorn and Banshee compared to Phenex which just sped off with Rita in the cockpit.

Im only watched Unicorn, not familiar with the UC (and Gundam franchise as a whole) , but Phenex doesnt seem any inferior to Unicorn and Banshee, i kinda found Phenex is overwhelming compare to it's 2 siblings.
I means, look at that mastery over Psycho Field, flying at the speed of light and such. Not to mention Phenex's destroyer mode is one of the scariest shit i have ever seen in mecha anime (and yes, i have seen Gurren Lagann)
Or perhap this is because Rita's mastery over Phenex's Psycho Field? Or because she's now a spirit, not having mortal flesh limitation like Banagher?

 

[Sero]

Pretty sure crystalized Unicorn probably the strongest of the three

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Pretty sure crystalized Unicorn probably the strongest of the three

I don't think so tbh. It does have the ability to reverse time and stuff. But I do think the Phenex is the strongest in terms of sheer AP.

 

[MagiSinbad]

Pretty sure crystalized Unicorn probably the strongest of the three

I was talking about normal unicorn siblings.
Luminous Unicorn (Crystalized Unicorn) is kinda... an entity? Fukui's interview said it's fused form of Banagher and Unicorn.

 

[MagiSinbad]

I don't think so tbh. It does have the ability to reverse time and stuff. But I do think the Phenex is the strongest in terms of sheer AP.

Novel Unicorn seem has some insane stuffs tho? I means, infinite energy generation; time travel; clairvoyance;ect...

 

[Dragonstitch]

Keep in mind most of the Phenex's feats in narrative were done with power amps from new type ghosts not from it's own power. like when the amp was off we see the Neo Zeong 2 easily overpowered the unicorn mode Phenex.