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You mean the mental scape Mogami took over and warped to his will?
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Mob Psycho 100 upgrade
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We've already established what counts as Mogami's mental world, at this point I just want the Keys to start being made
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Creating a Mental Space of non infinite size in a seemingly infinite space does not grant High 3-A
Mogami just created a city sized world
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This is what I think. It's not even positioned as the ultimate truth, so I don't understand why anyone is outraged by this.
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The stars/cosmos are a representation of the girl’s mind/soul as she wakes up fine literally right after Mob restored that cosmos.
The blank void is just an empty scape that espers like Mogami and Mob are able to fill. It’s how Mogami was able to trap Mob inside that “world” of his and when Mob erases Mogami’s world and purging him from the girl’s body by going into ??? form, the void returns back to an empty white scape instead of a black void like it was previously. After that Mob then once again “fills” that empty white scape with the cosmos (being a representation of that girl’s mind and soul) which in turn restores the girl back to her normal self.
The cosmos being filled in from the void was clearly done by Mob in order to restore the girl as we can see a clear shift in Mob as a shift occurs in the blank void.
The blank void is just an empty scape that espers like Mogami and Mob are able to fill. It’s how Mogami was able to trap Mob inside that “world” of his and when Mob erases Mogami’s world and purging him from the girl’s body by going into ??? form, the void returns back to an empty white scape instead of a black void like it was previously. After that Mob then once again “fills” that empty white scape with the cosmos (being a representation of that girl’s mind and soul) which in turn restores the girl back to her normal self.
The cosmos being filled in from the void was clearly done by Mob in order to restore the girl as we can see a clear shift in Mob as a shift occurs in the blank void.
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Overwriting a mental scape that contains a starry sky does sound like a tier 4 feat (besides you know it all being mental)
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What counts as Mogami’s mental world? Are you saying the guy who could only make a city-sized town world was able to take over the Asagiri’s mental scape that is a cosmos?
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Yes we have established that using the mental landscape to scale 100% is unreliable at best and that him "Creating" this cosmos is likely just him restoring her mind.The stars/cosmos are a representation of the girl’s mind/soul as she wakes up fine literally right after Mob restored that cosmos.
The blank void is just an empty scape that espers like Mogami and Mob are able to fill. It’s how Mogami was able to trap Mob inside that “world” of his and when Mob erases Mogami’s world and purging him from the girl’s body by going into ??? form, the void returns back to an empty white scape instead of a black void like it was previously. After that Mob then once again “fills” that empty white scape with the cosmos (being a representation of that girl’s mind and soul) which in turn restores the girl back to her normal self.
The cosmos being filled in from the void was clearly done by Mob in order to restore the girl as we can see a clear shift in Mob as a shift occurs in the blank void.
If this is the case can we just move on to discussing the keys for the characters who would scale?
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Its still hilarious that everyone is so accepting of a mental world feat because its called a parallel world and has physics lmao
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As far as I’m aware the keys for the characters have already all been discussed and talked about. This was brought up over staff concerns so we have to wait for input on their view of which interpretation is best.
Although if we to treat Mogami’s world as totally legitimate then another feat may need to be calculated which is this one in which Mogami and Mob seemingly engulf two “worlds” in flames right before Mob erases the entire void which could also be another tier bumping feat.
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So Mob is restoring her mind which originally had a cosmos after Mogami overwrote it.
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The evil spirit turns everything into a sea of magma. Mob only destroys it completelyAs far as I’m aware the keys for the characters have already all been discussed and talked about. This was brought up over staff concerns so we have to wait for input on their view of which interpretation is best.
Although if we to treat Mogami’s world as totally legitimate then another feat may need to be calculated which is this one in which Mogami and Mob seemingly engulf two “worlds” in flames right before Mob erases the entire void which could also be another tier bumping feat.
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I get that you don't agree with the scaling rn Die but we've compromised with adding a "Possibly" to the value
Your basically the only person rn keeping this thread from moving on by bringing up the same points again and again
You could make a CRT in the future to change this and persuade people to your side but as of right now your just gonna be outvoted in this situation
It probably wouldn't change anything because High 6-A creation is literally the mass of a moon, and while the mental world is big I don't think it's THAT bigAs far as I’m aware the keys for the characters have already all been discussed and talked about. This was brought up over staff concerns so we have to wait for input on their view of which interpretation is best.
Although if we to treat Mogami’s world as totally legitimate then another feat may need to be calculated which is this one in which Mogami and Mob seemingly engulf two “worlds” in flames right before Mob erases the entire void which could also be another tier bumping feat.
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I don't think it restores it. Rather I think it eliminates the presence of Mogami that kept Asagiri's mind and soul
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Yeah a huge explosion engulfs the two worlds in flames. I’m just wondering if that would yield good results for a calc.
Or if we’re gonna be treating Mob erasing Mogami’s space as a valid feat either.
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Yeah a huge explosion engulfs the two worlds in flames. I’m just wondering if that would yield good results for a calc.
Or if we’re gonna be treating Mob erasing Mogami’s space as a valid feat either.
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I've already figured it out. And considering that in a certain scene we see that the city forms a box (planes from the bottom, top, sides, front and back), I calculated this as a melting of 6 cities. The result was 6-B+Yeah a huge explosion engulfs the two worlds in flames. I’m just wondering if that would yield good results for a calc.
Or if we’re gonna be treating Mob erasing Mogami’s space as a valid feat either.
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The compromise doesn’t make sense to anyone who thinks about the scenario and what’s actually being proposed. If I’m not making any sense I’m sure the staff would’ve closed this by now and I don’t mind if they do. Either way the rating is gonna be laughed off in verses threads and promptly downgraded in a CRT.
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Eh maybe there were two “worlds” made so to speak which appear to be quite large with curvatures to them. (I know it’s kind of hard to see but there’s another flaming ball just like the one below Mob right above him as well)
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So Mogami’s presence overwrote Asagiri’s mind and soul scape which contained a cosmos
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You're just repeating the same thing and it doesn't make sense. The contributors here have long come to the conclusion that the best option is "possibly High 6-A", but you stubbornly ignore the arguments that are given to you.
In the context, it absolutely does not matter what space is, because we still have a city that has a realistic interaction with everything, tends to collapse and is plausible. One more time. Destruction has the same power as in the real world. The city is the same. Therefore, we can assume the realism of this feat and write "possibly". So I think we should go with this
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I ask basic questions that should be given a simple response and yet get no answer. The arguments are braindead if I'm being 110% honest. You would never find any verse on the wiki where a mental/spiritual feat gets accepted using the justification that it has real-world physics and it's called a parallel world.
It does matter what the space is. You guys are literally arguing the mental scape feats scale to real-life versions of the characters and the cosmos is literally in the mental scape.
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This argument is extremely circular. What else needs to be done here?
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Everyone agrees that we are standing still because of one person. And also we came to the conclusion that space has nothing to do with the feat. It still has "possibly" status. It looks like CloverDragon03 agrees with this, as do some of the members.
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The keys and scaling chain still needs to be decided on
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Please don't let me hold this CRT back from being accepted.
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I need someone to check my last calculation.
But for now we will have the following keys:
High 8-C | 6-C | At least 6-C to High 6-C, possibly High 6-A | At least High 6-C, possibly High 6-A
However, if the 6-B calculation is accepted, it will change the situation a little
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I will reiterate that after seeing the arguments about how the stars should be treated, a possibly High 6-A is fine by me
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They are to be ignored and treated as not a part of Mogami's world despite being in it and are what appears after Mob exorcises Mogami.
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We're just retreading the same arguments here: I think it's been pretty clearly established that a possibly High 6-A rating is the best option due to the ambiguity of the mental world, the fact it's anime-original, and all the different semantics of having an alternate world created would entail for tier ratings.
I'm rather hesitant on the 6-B myself since it affects the linear scaling presented. It's abundantly clear that Mob was unable to handle all of the energy that Toichiro had accumulated, which is why a lot of the energy was channeled into the broccoli. From what the manga and anime illustrate, it seems as though the broccoli was created almost immediately after the explosion took place. When Mob was found by his friends, he was buried in the center of the giant broccoli, so doesn't that mean the broccoli shielded him from the explosion?
I'm rather hesitant on the 6-B myself since it affects the linear scaling presented. It's abundantly clear that Mob was unable to handle all of the energy that Toichiro had accumulated, which is why a lot of the energy was channeled into the broccoli. From what the manga and anime illustrate, it seems as though the broccoli was created almost immediately after the explosion took place. When Mob was found by his friends, he was buried in the center of the giant broccoli, so doesn't that mean the broccoli shielded him from the explosion?
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So a 100% Mob could barely contain 6-B energy yet he should still get a possibly High 6-A rating from a mental feat? This keeps getting better
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Further proof of why the possibly High 6-A isn't very strong evidence and looks more like an outlier. I mean, I'm fine with it being applied now since it's already been decided and I don't want to drag this out even more, but still.
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Never mind ignore this post and please go through with the CRT. I want others the witness this on the profile.
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Possibly ratings exist all the time so this argument makes no sense to be honest
Also the 6-B calc is wrong on many levels. I already rejected it
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Possibly is not an issue. There is no room for High 6-A possibly existing if Mob struggled with containing a 6-B or 6-C explosion.
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That’s the classic Attack Potency =/= Destructive Capacity dilemma my dude
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Struggling with a 6-B or 6-C feat after performing a supposed High 6-A feat in a mental world just makes the latter even more of an outlier than it already is. Mob even at his angriest ??? didn't even perform a High 6-A feat.
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Please stop needlessly repeating the same thing. Said attack in itself would be possibly High 6-A based on the scaling. Not every single attack ever thrown out needs to be at that same level of destruction
Hence, Attack Potency =/= Destructive Capacity
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I didn't mention anything about DC or Attack Potency. I'm talking about feats and Mob apparently struggled with one far below High 6-A. That's on him if the feat he struggled against doesn't yield High 6-A results.
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That’s literally destructive capacity. Your argument is becoming very moot at this point
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