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Miss Kobayashi’s Dragon Maid: Shouldn't the massively hypersonic+ speed of Tohru and the rest of her race be merely their flight speed?
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Manga version AFAIK.
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The manga version is probably the best choice for now, it's also consistent with the previous travel speed calc.
Unless we discover more feats that supports either.
If it can't be decided, is it fine to make it "MHS+, possibly Sub Rel"?
Unless we discover more feats that supports either.
If it can't be decided, is it fine to make it "MHS+, possibly Sub Rel"?
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Migue accepted the anime version, while DragonGamer accepted the manga.
DMUA gave his eval already but didn't clarify which version, DemonGodMitchAubin has yet to respond, I contacted him as well.
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I was originally gonna just use the manga scan with the anime time-frame since both the manga and anime versions happen in the same exact manner, only way the anime differs is Tohru and Elma's kiss (Which really doesn't contradict anything as it happens after the deadpan stare the two give each other which is present in the manga BTW, so it could be concluded that the kiss is additional info) and the better looking visuals for the beam and it panning out further to show how far the beam went (Which you could say is also another piece of additional info on the manga feat that only adds on and doesn't contradict).
But if the majority decide with your proposal, I have no issues with it either.
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Basically...
Kanna's feat is travel speed only.
But...
We have found that Tohru and Elma's beam clash yields higher results for combat speed and reactions.
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You just need to include a scan of someone dodging a beam and you should be fine.
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Kanna dodged Tohru's mouth beam (And before that Tohru kicked away Kanna's beam, I think?), but not sure about that part since they stated they were "playing" but that would be a noteworthy feat.
But I think Tohru and Ilulu's fight scene might have a couple instances? There's obviously Elma and Tohru too (Who are obviously on par with each other and most likely shot mouth beams at each other before the space beam feat happened), and maybe even a few future fights that I haven't watched yet.
Will have to ask Berkanstelll and Metalballrun for some more scans regarding anyone dodging either Tohru or Elma's beams in combat (I'm sure there might be plenty of instances).
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I've asked the relevant members the questions needed. Once I get the response, I'll get to it.
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All you need is to have someone dodge a beam and write it like "Avoided an energy blast from X, which moves this fast". Then people scale to that person (assuming they aren't radically more powerful).
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Well, Tohru vs Kanna happens (Chapter 9 and S1 E2, where Tohru kicks away Kanna's Kamehameha-esque beam and fires a mouth beam at Kanna, which Kanna reacts to and moves away from), but they state to only be horsing around and not being serious yet they then end up cramping around from fatigue from their horsing-around which implies some sort of seriousness being put into their attacks.
That being said, I'm not the best Kobayashi Dragon Maid expert and I haven't made that much progress aside from the anime, so I've already asked Berkanstelll, Arrogant and MetalBall to provide some further supporting scans, just to be safe.
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Finally found it. Thanks to Arrogant_Schmuck. Here. Chapter 73.
Fafnir can easily react to and even outright block Tohru's mouth beam, berating her for it even. Fafnir was also blocking a bunch of blasts from Tohru before this in the same chapter.
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So turn out the MHS+ is going to be stay as straight up speed instead travel speed, but with more justified feat
Yeah, that should be good
Yeah, that should be good
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Well they need to keep it. Plenty of people on the wiki have high combat speed but can be outrun by a sedan going at its top speed (Captain America for example).
Having high flight speed means they can more effectively fight.
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Anyway, now that the calcs are done. We can work on justifications for the profiles and add scans accordingly
Kanna: Her flight speed remains and she gets scans for reacting to Tohru's beams.
Fafnir: Outright reacts to and blocks Tohru's beam and is stated many times to be far more powerful than her.
Kanna: Her flight speed remains and she gets scans for reacting to Tohru's beams.
Fafnir: Outright reacts to and blocks Tohru's beam and is stated many times to be far more powerful than her.
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Just repeating what I found on Fafnir's profile.
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Yeah that's fine.
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