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I think this is number 8....I think....Anyway this is a pretty hefty one. We have 13 things to go over for this 8th revision.
Boltboutamon and SGDL Conceptual Shenanigans
While this is somewhat detailed in the Malevolent Fist Blog, there is a little bit of new lore about what Bolt's goal entailed.
To quote Ex,
"The Malevolent Fist planned to directly destroy the old concept that the Seven Great Demon Lords embodied and thereby establish itself as the new concept of darkness that existed in the multiverse. "
Boltboutamon directly attacked the Demon World and the SGDL in an attempt to completely erase their concepts. But what is surprising is that he failed and in fact the SGDL survived getting their very concepts attacked.
What this basically means is that while you can attack the Concept can hurt him, however, unless you are strong enough, it will not kill him seeing as the Malevolent Fist who is stronger than the SGDL failed to do so. Twice.
Another thing is that if Boltboutamon is the embodiment of the "New Concept Darkness" then he should have Abstract Existence in line with that.
To summarize,
Boltboutamon: Conceptual Destruction + Abstract Existence
SGDL: Resistance to Conceptual Destruction
Yggdrasil Resistances and Conceptual Stuff
This is simple as brought up in the Homura vs Ygg fight.
Ygg should naturally have a resistance to Mind and Soul Manipulation due to the fact that it's a blatant super computer and not an actual conventional being. Think a pure robot. There is also the fact that Yggdrasil managed to resist the attacks/corruption of the Eaters for a good while before eventually getting corrupted completely. This could also count as Resistance to Information Manipulation.
One thing that was brought to my attention is that Yggdrasil should be considered the Abstract of Life and Death. The comes in line sorta with Executor's new blog and statements from Yggdrasil itself. These quotes come from Yggdrasil stating "Death has no meaning to him" and that he has "Complete Control over Life and Death". There is also the fact that he created Dexmo who was also considered to be Death itself. He also seems to have abstract like qualities. To quote PaChi,
"Yggdrasil is an incorporeal being, so he uses Manifestation Bodies to interact more directly with the physical plane.
A mysterious host computer, "Yggdrasil" that controls all of the "Digital World" on the network. This figure is the incarnate body created by "Yggdrasil".
Note that Yggdrasil can both create a body to use as an avatar as well as take over an existing body, as it was in Digimon Next and Digimon Savers with Barbamon and Masaru.
Its basically the embodiment of Life and Death in the digital world."
Also based on the fact that Death means nothing to him, Ygg qualifies for Type 5.
So to summarize this,
Resistance to Mind Manipulation, Soul Manipulation and possibly Information Manipulation.
Abstract Existence, Conceptual Manipulation (Life and Death) and Type 5 Immortality.
Clockmon's Temporal Lineage
This was recently brought to my attention. In a vast majority of games Clockmon's natural evolution is Knightmon. And Knightmon's natural mega is Crusadermon. Ergo, Crusadermon is to also inherit Clockmon's skills.
To summarize,
Crusadermon gets Clockmon's skills.
Apocalymon Infinite Stamina
So this is also something that is a "maybe". Apocalymon's Darkness Zone is sourced multiple time to expand infinitely. However, for some reason, Apocalymon has limited stamina. Due to Darkness Zone being sourced as an infinitely expanding attack, Apocalymon should have infinite stamina. To maybe help support this, Machinedramon is also apart of him. It is noted that Machinedramon has infinite energy.
Sealing For the Dark Masters
So the Dark Masters (And by extention Apocalymon) should have sealing based on these quotes.
Based upon this, the Dark Masters can seal opponents if need be as shown when they seal the 4 Holy Beasts. How strong the Holy Beasts were at this time is unknown, however they did defeat Apocalymon once...so there is that. It should be noted that each Dark Master sealed one of the Holy Beasts. This process seems to take time, but if the Holy Beasts are indeed Low 2-C seeing as they defeated Apocalymon, then maybe it's faster on weaker foes.
To summarize,
All the Dark Masters should gain Sealing.
Mother Eater Conceptual Destruction
This one is actually quite cut and dry. Suedou was planning to use the power of Mother Eater to eradicate the concept of sadness from the world.
Hacker's Memory Updates
This is simple. So we got some new powerhouses that scale to the CS 2-A's.
First we have Megidramon who could fight end game Keisuke in a fight. It should be noted that they didn't kill him, but calmed him down. And Keisuke had help from Leomon. Of course this feat may immediately be thrown out seeing as Leomon didn't die, thus making the fight invalid. OvO
We have a SkullMeramon who could erect a barrier that was so powerful that not even THE Beelzemon could get through it. And it fought end game Keisuke. However, I am not 100% sold on scaling SkullMeramon to Keisuke and as such thinks a "Possibly 2-A" rating should do. But I'll let you all decide. He should be High 2-A with his special barrier.
The last two are VenomMyotismon and GranDracmon. These are two of the Super Bosses of the game and fight end game Keisuke along with an ally of his choosing. However, I feel that only GranDracmon should get the additional High 2-A rating while VenomMyotismon should only get the "At least 2-A" rating. Also GranDracmon should get some type of Reality Warping seeing as he can control to appearance and structure of the Abyss Server. His resurrection should be updated to high speed Resurrection seeing as the instant he is defeated and Keisuke leaves his domain, he returns ready to fight once again.
To Summarize,
Megidramon gets an "At least 2-A" rating.
SkullMeramon gets an "At least 3-C, possibly 2-A" rating with "High 2-A via his special barrier"
VenomMyotismon gets an "At least 2-A" rating.
GranDracmon gets an "At least 2-A, likely High 2-A" rating as well as Reality Warping and high speed Resurrection.
Regarding Cyber Sleuth Piercing Moves
Originally we rated moves from CS that stated "DEF-Penetrating Attack" or "INT-Penetrating attack" as Bypassing Physical/Magical Defenses. However, I believe a better classification is that they pierce through defenses and not actually completely bypass them.
Digimon Type 1 Immortality
Digimon cannot die from old age (They don't age) nor natural causes.
Digimon Savers Another Missio
So this is also apparently a thing. In S:AN the Savers cast are literally given the powers of the SGDL. As such they should gain the abilities of the Demon Lord that they were gifted.
Yatagaramon/Crowmon BFR
Crowmon/Yatagaramon can BFR opponents to the Dark Area as you can see via these scans.
https://imgur.com/a/S0tQf
DemiMeramon Rege
DemiMera is able to regenerate as long as a single flame is left. Not only that it then multiplies as part of it's regen. As such this would grant DemiMeramon and evolutions up BlueMeramon Mid-High Regen + Duplication as well as Immortality Type 3.
Scans: https://imgur.com/a/pL2db
Barbamon Revival
Barbamon can revive others from Nonexistence.
Scans: https://imgur.com/a/KBX7R
That's all I believe.
Boltboutamon and SGDL Conceptual Shenanigans
While this is somewhat detailed in the Malevolent Fist Blog, there is a little bit of new lore about what Bolt's goal entailed.
To quote Ex,
"The Malevolent Fist planned to directly destroy the old concept that the Seven Great Demon Lords embodied and thereby establish itself as the new concept of darkness that existed in the multiverse. "
Boltboutamon directly attacked the Demon World and the SGDL in an attempt to completely erase their concepts. But what is surprising is that he failed and in fact the SGDL survived getting their very concepts attacked.
What this basically means is that while you can attack the Concept can hurt him, however, unless you are strong enough, it will not kill him seeing as the Malevolent Fist who is stronger than the SGDL failed to do so. Twice.
Another thing is that if Boltboutamon is the embodiment of the "New Concept Darkness" then he should have Abstract Existence in line with that.
To summarize,
Boltboutamon: Conceptual Destruction + Abstract Existence
SGDL: Resistance to Conceptual Destruction
Yggdrasil Resistances and Conceptual Stuff
This is simple as brought up in the Homura vs Ygg fight.
Ygg should naturally have a resistance to Mind and Soul Manipulation due to the fact that it's a blatant super computer and not an actual conventional being. Think a pure robot. There is also the fact that Yggdrasil managed to resist the attacks/corruption of the Eaters for a good while before eventually getting corrupted completely. This could also count as Resistance to Information Manipulation.
One thing that was brought to my attention is that Yggdrasil should be considered the Abstract of Life and Death. The comes in line sorta with Executor's new blog and statements from Yggdrasil itself. These quotes come from Yggdrasil stating "Death has no meaning to him" and that he has "Complete Control over Life and Death". There is also the fact that he created Dexmo who was also considered to be Death itself. He also seems to have abstract like qualities. To quote PaChi,
"Yggdrasil is an incorporeal being, so he uses Manifestation Bodies to interact more directly with the physical plane.
A mysterious host computer, "Yggdrasil" that controls all of the "Digital World" on the network. This figure is the incarnate body created by "Yggdrasil".
Note that Yggdrasil can both create a body to use as an avatar as well as take over an existing body, as it was in Digimon Next and Digimon Savers with Barbamon and Masaru.
Its basically the embodiment of Life and Death in the digital world."
Also based on the fact that Death means nothing to him, Ygg qualifies for Type 5.
So to summarize this,
Resistance to Mind Manipulation, Soul Manipulation and possibly Information Manipulation.
Abstract Existence, Conceptual Manipulation (Life and Death) and Type 5 Immortality.
Clockmon's Temporal Lineage
This was recently brought to my attention. In a vast majority of games Clockmon's natural evolution is Knightmon. And Knightmon's natural mega is Crusadermon. Ergo, Crusadermon is to also inherit Clockmon's skills.
To summarize,
Crusadermon gets Clockmon's skills.
Apocalymon Infinite Stamina
So this is also something that is a "maybe". Apocalymon's Darkness Zone is sourced multiple time to expand infinitely. However, for some reason, Apocalymon has limited stamina. Due to Darkness Zone being sourced as an infinitely expanding attack, Apocalymon should have infinite stamina. To maybe help support this, Machinedramon is also apart of him. It is noted that Machinedramon has infinite energy.
Sealing For the Dark Masters
So the Dark Masters (And by extention Apocalymon) should have sealing based on these quotes.
| In the four corners of the world, four sets of light and darkness stood at odds. Those on the side of the Light had large, beastlike shapes, while those on the side of Darkness varied. There was one shaped like a large dragon, another like a mechanical dinosaur, another the size of a human adult, while yet another was as small as a child. Although their shapes were different, all of them were Digimon. News that the children had left File Island reached the dark Digimon that was shaped like a human adult. He cursed. That wretched Devimon failed! Yet he could not make a move. Currently, he needed all of his concentration to seal the Digimon of the Light that was coiled in front of him, its shining dragon―like form trapped as it squirmed unsuccessfully under his power. It would take some time before its seal was completed. |
| After chaining his hostage Sora to the wall, Nanomon used his repaired hand to hit the keyboard keys at a speed that be caught by the eye. He had changed the network system and programs skillfully, without any of his enemies noticing. Etemon, Vamdemon, and the Dark Masters behind them (HAVE THEY ALREADY FINISHED SEALING THE FOUR HOLY BEASTS, I WONDER) seemed to think that by changing the order of the world, it would make it easier to control, but as he had mentioned earlier, Nanomon did not agree. |
To summarize,
All the Dark Masters should gain Sealing.
Mother Eater Conceptual Destruction
This one is actually quite cut and dry. Suedou was planning to use the power of Mother Eater to eradicate the concept of sadness from the world.
Hacker's Memory Updates
This is simple. So we got some new powerhouses that scale to the CS 2-A's.
First we have Megidramon who could fight end game Keisuke in a fight. It should be noted that they didn't kill him, but calmed him down. And Keisuke had help from Leomon. Of course this feat may immediately be thrown out seeing as Leomon didn't die, thus making the fight invalid. OvO
We have a SkullMeramon who could erect a barrier that was so powerful that not even THE Beelzemon could get through it. And it fought end game Keisuke. However, I am not 100% sold on scaling SkullMeramon to Keisuke and as such thinks a "Possibly 2-A" rating should do. But I'll let you all decide. He should be High 2-A with his special barrier.
The last two are VenomMyotismon and GranDracmon. These are two of the Super Bosses of the game and fight end game Keisuke along with an ally of his choosing. However, I feel that only GranDracmon should get the additional High 2-A rating while VenomMyotismon should only get the "At least 2-A" rating. Also GranDracmon should get some type of Reality Warping seeing as he can control to appearance and structure of the Abyss Server. His resurrection should be updated to high speed Resurrection seeing as the instant he is defeated and Keisuke leaves his domain, he returns ready to fight once again.
To Summarize,
Megidramon gets an "At least 2-A" rating.
SkullMeramon gets an "At least 3-C, possibly 2-A" rating with "High 2-A via his special barrier"
VenomMyotismon gets an "At least 2-A" rating.
GranDracmon gets an "At least 2-A, likely High 2-A" rating as well as Reality Warping and high speed Resurrection.
Regarding Cyber Sleuth Piercing Moves
Originally we rated moves from CS that stated "DEF-Penetrating Attack" or "INT-Penetrating attack" as Bypassing Physical/Magical Defenses. However, I believe a better classification is that they pierce through defenses and not actually completely bypass them.
Digimon Type 1 Immortality
Digimon cannot die from old age (They don't age) nor natural causes.
Digimon Savers Another Missio
So this is also apparently a thing. In S:AN the Savers cast are literally given the powers of the SGDL. As such they should gain the abilities of the Demon Lord that they were gifted.
Yatagaramon/Crowmon BFR
Crowmon/Yatagaramon can BFR opponents to the Dark Area as you can see via these scans.
https://imgur.com/a/S0tQf
DemiMeramon Rege
DemiMera is able to regenerate as long as a single flame is left. Not only that it then multiplies as part of it's regen. As such this would grant DemiMeramon and evolutions up BlueMeramon Mid-High Regen + Duplication as well as Immortality Type 3.
Scans: https://imgur.com/a/pL2db
Barbamon Revival
Barbamon can revive others from Nonexistence.
Scans: https://imgur.com/a/KBX7R
That's all I believe.
