We've never seen them fight. But their AP and speed is clear. I'm not sure if we can put it as 2-B (Cat Blancs already been shown to destroy this many timelines, it should be self-explanatory that Plagg can as well.) Cat Blanc profile should be updated as well, we also need a cosmology blog for the verse..
would they Abstract Existence type 1 or 2?
Cat Blanc is in a weird situation as while he definitely would've erased the timeline completely, I'm not sure if it was 2-B since I'm pretty sure the burrow connects to events within the same timeline rather than crossing between universes
In Evolution, Ladybug referred to each one as a space-time continuum. I don't think there are 1001 timelines within Burrow, though.
Agree. While the burrow does imply finite timelines with its limited number of portals, Bunnyx herself can manipulate portals out of the burrow to jump out at different points in time (likely resulting in new timelines due to future interference), and Bunnyx herself came from a timeline in which Chat Blanc didn't happen, suggesting that even without time travel involved, there's an infinite amount of timelines that can form due to multiple decisions being made.
Something interesting, she exists in every universe simultaneously. This idea further confirms that more universes exist, which are in reference to the numerous timelines, and many another worlds within Miraculous Cosmology.
Honestly cartoons for children almost by definition have good feats with toon force and all that shit, but I doubt anyone scales to 2-B/2-A, since even Gimmi's wish doesn't seem to affect Betterfly's world
I'm pretty sure the Wish affects the entire cosmology. It's larger scale destruction then Chat Blanc. I'm not gonna lie, you can get Tikki to 1-A. (dont call me a rider)
What? We know more or less what the wish does, it destroys the entire timeline and recreates it with whatever it was wished for, that's for sure a Low 2-C no doubts but there is not even enough cosmology to reach tier 1 much less 1-A. Gimmi should indeed scale higher than Chat blanc as they are the most powerful ones but as far as we know that's it, Gimmi could potencially destroy the entire multiverse if it was wished for but that's as far as it gets
Tikki predates the idea of mathematics
Without explicit proof that would just mean she is older than the universe/multiverse, means nothing on its own
If she predates mathematics, it implies she's unbound by it and can exist without the idea of dimensionality. I can send in the scans whenever.
If I was older than Newton I would "predate gravity" again that has no meaning on its own
What
None of that proves that kwamis are somehow above dimensionality, to begin with there is nothing talking about mathematical dimensions so nothing suggests that by mathematics they are talking about that instead of just the universal concept of math
Dimensionality as a whole is a branch of Mathematics. It's the Mathematical study of space. Tikki predates this very idea on the conceptual level.
The problem is we're not privy to what schools of thought exist in Miraculous. We can't just hand out 1-A to everyone who "predates math" without first discerning what that entails. The term "math" in one verse could be wildly different from "math" in another. There should be evidence that characters in Miraculous have at least some knowledge on the theoretical concepts that would give tier 1 such as Aleph null.
She created all the abstract concepts and the verse and is everything. She can also exist unbound by them, the Mathematics in Miraculous is the same as in our world.
I don't think this would qualify Tikki for being 1-A in any capacity.
Tikki is the same across universes
Tikki exists in every space-time simultaneously. Marinette and Edgynette's Tikki is, quite literally, the same being existing twice simultaneously.
The power of pretension cannot replicate another Miraculous power because two concepts cannot exists simultaneously in the same universe without one becoming the concept of replication. That’s what you get from Xuppu’s analogy.
Everything here is agreeable. I'm still with Tier 1 Miraculous, predating the very idea of mathematics implies she can exist without it. If the cosmology part is correct, then it eliminates the idea of Tier 1.
Then at most that would be an extreme form of multilocation combined with that of a higher dimensional existence (being a Kwami which existed before the concept of time), which still would place Tikki at Low-2C.
I said that in regards to the fact that even though Tikki's concept predates the creation of other concepts existing (even time) and is herself representing a concept of higher power than something like mathematics, it does not mean that her power puts her at Tier 1. Yes, Tikki would predate a Kwami representing math, yes her concept of creation is vastly above the concept in terms of a conceptual power heirarchy, but this does not grant Tikki any authority over the concept of mathematics due to preceding its creation, even with her status as the first concept. Her power only works in regard to creation, any other effects she exhibits are due to indirect effects caused by her power (EG, Tikki can use her power to merge timelines and manipulate causallity, which would intrude on the Fluff's concept of time, but Tikki herself can't use her powers to grant herself Fluff's ability to travel though time).
Chat Blanc is a result of him knowing who Ladybug was, that's why when she erased her name from the gift prevented that future. Bunnies being there is likely a result of Ladybug sending her to protect the time miraculous, since then she takes care for the timeline past present and future
Wait, I thought they were already doing season 6.Namek Saga let’s go
I’m working in this I swear
That’s already set to air.
Holy Hell.
He already talked about the future villains maybe the The Eclyptinvaders?Namek Saga let’s go
I’m working in this I swear
A HUNDRED YEARS MORTY! WE'RE GONNA BE RUNNING FOR A THOUSAND YEARS! BURRRRP THE LOVE SQUARETAGRAM IS GONNA BECOME A CIRCLE! INFINITE CORNERS JUST LIKE HOW MANY EPISODES WE'RE GONNA GET, MORTY!
Infinite episodes it's how many it's gonna take until Marinette and Adrian get together.
I can't, when I "update" a profile I don't use short cuts, I wouldn't allow myself to have the profiles with so little "scans" and references, I also don't like how there are basically a key per season, a key per miraculous which only appeared in 1 episode and never again, the way the power section is made it's awful.
Are you planning a CRT to fix the profile?
Not now I might try that once I rewatch the series.
I think Season 4 and 5 needs to be updated in general. Monarch has the feat of surviving Plagg's explosion in "Deflagration" (he's immune to cataclysm but not necessarily the blast that followed it given he was knocked down)
