Meliodas vs Reinhard

[Magmag]

How will he full counter atomic matter manip?

he will use the speedster352 full counter to win supposedly

 

[ssgengar]

So what exactly stops Reinhard from being sealed

 

[Magmag]

So what exactly stops Reinhard from being sealed

he can cut threw it via spatial manip pretty sure

 

[Arkenis]

So what exactly stops Reinhard from being sealed

Atomic matter manip go brrr

 

[DivineAura44]

I don't see how that works if he's getting blitzed. Is it like passive and automatically cuts anything coming towards him?

 

[Arkenis]

I don't see how that works if he's getting blitzed. Is it like passive and automatically cuts anything coming towards him?

he is not getting blitzed. Mel starts in demon mark 2, and can access AM.
And the seal is otherwise just a seal of dark magic. it wont do anything else to Reinhard

 

[Popted2]

Reinhard FRA

 

[DivineAura44]

he is not getting blitzed. Mel starts in demon mark 2, and can access AM.

Bruh I just read the thread. I didn't know he was starting in DM2. This is a stomp

 

[ssgengar]

Atomic matter manip go brrr

How if the seal puts him to sleep?

 

[Arkenis]

How if the seal puts him to sleep?

Reinhard resists sleep manip.

 

[DivineAura44]

So Meliodas has no win cons...

 

[Makai641001]

Hundreds of characters have immortality like that, we aren’t just going to restrict it as if it’s invalid. And saying it’s ”outside Help” is like saying immortalities that rely on concepts is “outside help”.

Not hundreds of characters need another person to be immortal your point is irrelevant

And I addressed the speed blitzing already.

Not really

Meliodas: Analytical Prediction (Predicted Golgius' movements)
Meliodas: Accelerated Development (Replicated King's technique moments after witnessing it)

Reinhard: Instinctive Reaction(Reinhard instinctively understands how to react[15] so as to defend himself from attacks he is seeing for the very first time)
Reinhard: Reactive Power Level (Once he has seen an attack once, he can dodge it at greater speeds[15])
Reinhard: Analytical Prediction (Has a superhuman intuition which informs him of dire[2], imminent threats to his self, and preemptively detects incoming attacks. As the Sword Saint, like Theresia, he can read and sense the trajectories of his opponent's attacks[3] and he knows everything regarding optimal striking angle and optimal striking force)

Reinhard clearly has better analytical prection than Meliodas's. And I don't see where Chandler has any form of RE or Adaption on his page, it just sounds like chandler got stronger not adaoted, pretty sure the OD just got stronger as well but again even if it they were adapting I have no reason to believe it's on Reinhard's level.

Doesn’t involve any blitz From what i read

And please stop assuming that Mel is just going to go into AM off bat when op says he starts in DM2, Reinhard will evolve to his dm2 and once that keeps happening then Meliodas would enter AM.

Meli starts in DM1 but generally power up in AM just like against Brit DK

Resistance Negation: Demons can use black purgatory fire/hellblaze, nullify regeneration of other such as Ban. Purgatory flame can burn the Fairy King's forest which is immune to natural fire and Izraf stated it could harm him although regular fire could not.

This is clearly negation to fire resistance and regeneration. If there's more feats for it then should be in the page

Yeah i don’t even recall arguing for this One

Meli still go AM in character And would blitz the analytical prédiction doesn’t even talk about blitz

He can’t resist a sealing that will just negate his mana won’t be able to keep up at the beginning of the fight

he can cut threw it via spatial manip pretty sure

as i said it nullifies magic/mana due to the negative energy

he is not getting blitzed. Mel starts in demon mark 2, and can access AM.
And the seal is otherwise just a seal of dark magic. it wont do anything else to Reinhard

Meli goes AM in character he doesn’t wait especially against strong opps

Yeah I'm voting for Reinhard, mainly due to Mel having no counter to Atomic matter manip, his immortality is not being stopped here, He has a literal resistance to dark magic aka demons most used magic, he seems to be far more talented and a better sword fighter than Mel.

I already adressed how Meli would resist
As for skills his Analytical prédiction is the only thing you’Ve mentionned Which wouldn’t do shit against a blitz litteraly

As a conclusion:
-You are using a cheesy immortality
-You didn’t even read what i said about the used kanji (Which overlook molecules as singular structures aka atoms and generalise it it’s meaning is different in jap than in English 二原子分子 is what is used for diatomic molecules)
-You argued for Meli not using AM in character (He did against DK brit And even kept the form against everyone He fought during the purgatory arc)
-You are arguing for a space cutting thing that is getting nullified by the negative energy
-Gelda seems to be getting slept by meli’s sealing
-Meli has a high ranking Demon soul Manip anyway according to Mitch Demons destroy souls just like they did with SD
-Chandler didn’t use a power up in his fight he adapted
-Zel did the same while being far weaker than King
- Analysing trajectories etc… is something base Meli could do for kilometres with his spear feat he Also prédict entire patterns of movements to trap invisible ennemies or even to Time FC’s

 

[ssgengar]

Reinhard resists sleep manip.

Would enhanced power null negate debuff resistance? And is the resistance passive?

 

[Makai641001]

Aldo Sealings put you in a « sealed state » it ain’t really a sleep that just prevent you From trying to break out of it unless you’Ve got sufficient negative energy

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Reinhard stomps… shouldn’t be added tbh

 

[Makai641001]

Would enhanced power null negate debuff resistance? And is the resistance passive?

It ain’t sleep manip anyway it’s a state that negate magic et prevent people From trying to break out Meli had to overpower it using his own negative energy Gelda was in sealed Mode too

 

[Makai641001]

Reinhard stomps… shouldn’t be added tbh

Shouldn’t be started tbh we asked so much time to refrain using NNT characters they are getting continental and FTL ratings and new hax currently but Some ppl don’t want to stop doing these

 

[ssgengar]

It ain’t sleep manip anyway it’s a state that negate magic et prevent people From trying to break out Meli had to overpower it using his own negative energy Gelda was in sealed Mode too

This is a good point, do you know if Reinhard’s resistances are passive or not though? Not even just regarding sleep but other debuffs as well

 

[Makai641001]

This is a good point, do you know if Reinhard’s resistances are passive or not though? Not even just regarding sleep but other debuffs as well

Idrk i’m just Here because i was asked to come i don’t know the character

 

[Magmag]

well yes, speedster continues to use a loophole to bypass his ban via proxy and live his life by texting 100+ people begging them to vote "meliodas FRA" after makai states their copy and pasted points that are used in every meli argument.

 

[Makai641001]

well yes, speedster continues to use a loophole to bypass his ban via proxy and live his life by texting 100+ people begging them to vote "meliodas FRA" after makai states their copy and pasted points that are used in every meli argument.

No disrespect he wants his fav verse to be protected and it wouldn’t be a problem if y’all didn’t spam these

 

[Makai641001]

well yes, speedster continues to use a loophole to bypass his ban via proxy and live his life by texting 100+ people begging them to vote "meliodas FRA" after makai states their copy and pasted points that are used in every meli argument.

Also
MELIODAS FRA

 

[Magmag]

No disrespect he wants his fav verse to be protected

no, respectfully speaking speedster is a weirdo, and it is explained by him getting banned from versus threads.

and it wouldn’t be a problem if y’all didn’t spam these

ur acting as if the OP aint a sds fan...

 

[Magmag]

Also
MELIODAS FRA

good thing my wifi is buggy, reinhard claps, u also admitted u dont even know the other character...

 

[Makai641001]

no, respectfully speaking speedster is a weirdo, and it is explained by him getting banned from versus threads.

ur acting as if the OP aint a sds fan...

I was refering to the SDS fan…
Don’t be antagonistic toward speedster that’s mean even though he has patience problems

 

[Magmag]

I was refering to the SDS fan…

i mean u said "y'all" which refers to an outside party. in this case the correct word would be "we" since ur talking about ur own.

Don’t be antagonistic toward speedster

huh?

that’s mean even though he has patience problems

if he has such problems he should not be including himself in versus battles at all, it'll just add on to his problems.

 

[DivineAura44]

no, respectfully speaking speedster is a weirdo, and it is explained by him getting banned from versus threads.

You can't say that respectfully, especially about a person you don't know smh.

 

[Magmag]

You can't say that respectfully, especially about a person you don't know smh.

im talking about being a weirdo in the sense of being obsessed with bypassing his proxy.

 

[DivineAura44]

im talking about being a weirdo in the sense of being obsessed with bypassing his proxy.

That doesn't necessarily make him a weirdo.

 

[DivineAura44]

i mean u said "y'all" which refers to an outside party. in this case the correct word would be "we" since ur talking about ur own.

I don't remember Makai calling themselves a sds fan.

 

[Makai641001]

I

i mean u said "y'all" which refers to an outside party. in this case the correct word would be "we" since ur talking about ur own.

huh?

if he has such problems he should not be including himself in versus battles at all, it'll just add on to his problems.

I’m French I might use words I don’t fully understand or that are inapropriate in a certain situation

He can do whatever he wants to do idc

 

[Arkenis]

Stop the personal attacks against Speedster, no need for it here.

If this is considered stomp then should just be closed.

 

[Popted2]

Speedster is not a weirdo

he is just very ver very very very very VERY ANNOYING

If this is considered stomp then should just be closed.

yes i agree

 

[Makai641001]

Stop the personal attacks against Speedster, no need for it here.

If this is considered stomp then should just be closed.

Anyways chaos slams using his huge schlong

 

[Arkenis]

Anyways chaos slams using his huge schlong

who is chaos

 

[DivineAura44]

Anyways chaos slams using his huge schlong

 

[Magmag]

That doesn't necessarily make him a weirdo.

ok we can go the vocabulary route if we may...

Weirdo: a person whose dress or behavior seems strange or eccentric.

suffering from patience problems yet willingly bypassing loopholes to continue to put yourself in obsessive situations fits the definition of having strange behavior, thus being a weirdo in this sense.

I don't remember Makai calling themselves a sds fan.

and fan in the sense of arguing for meli to win via speedster asking.

I’m French I might use words I don’t fully understand or that are inapropriate in a certain situation

mhm. well shout out to the french, .

He can do whatever he wants to do idc

i mean yeah, but u said he has his problems but continues to do it so he might need some help rather than discarding it as "whatever he wants to do"

Stop the personal attacks against Speedster, no need for it here.

yep, no personal attacks here.

If this is considered stomp then should just be closed.

yep.

 

[Arkenis]

meliodas vs juubito coming up

 

[DivineAura44]

suffering from patience problems yet willingly bypassing loopholes to continue to put yourself in obsessive situations fits the definition of having strange behavior, thus being a weirdo in this sense.

and fan in the sense of arguing for meli to win via speedster asking.

1. You are heavily overexaggerating what Speedster does.
2. That doesn't at all make them a fan.

 

[DivineAura44]

meliodas vs juubito coming up

Meliodas vs Garou when?