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[Re:Zero] Reinhard van Astrea Revisions

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An update to Reinhard's profile based on some recent revisions and the like. I've been working on this for quite a while now (so many Divine Protections).

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Reinhard's current page

I've used (a) new profile image(s), and rewritten the character summary. The following sections of the P&A are either edited, or completely new:

His stats are mostly untouched, I did make him slower than Cecilus in line with an already-accepted CRT. I improved his stamina justification.
Stamina: Superhuman (Knights are trained to be able to endure serious injuries and keep fighting.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...x_Novel_4,_Imperial_Diplomacy_of_Bloodshed-36"><span>[</span>36<span>]</span></a> After defeating the Blue Lightning, and being impaled through his abdomen,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U..._note-Re:Zero_kara_Oboreru_Isekai_Seikatsu-27"><span>[</span>27<span>]</span></a> Reinhard was able to continue fighting<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U..._note-Re:Zero_kara_Oboreru_Isekai_Seikatsu-27"><span>[</span>27<span>]</span></a> and went on to defeat the Beast of the End and the Admirer with his injuries. Transcendents such as Reinhard and Cecilus can fight and kill not only entire armies, but even an entire country.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...x_Novel_4,_Imperial_Diplomacy_of_Bloodshed-36"><span>[</span>36<span>]</span></a> Reinhard can stay awake for a week without tiring.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Zabazab/sandbox/7?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Reinhard's_Birthday_2019-3"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a> The pain of having both of his arms ruined could not even affect his complexion, and bleeding makes him stronger.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_9,_Chapter_15-20"><span>[</span>20<span>]</span></a> Even with his nearly torn off arms, Reinhard was able to swing his sheathed sword again and again in battle.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_9,_Chapter_23-67"><span>[</span>67<span>]</span></a> He can stalemate the Witch of Envy in an endless battle, between one who will never cease and one who will never perish<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_9,_Chapter_15-20"><span>[</span>20<span>]</span></a>)
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I made very minor edits to the description of the Dragon Sword, to match lore. I've also made edits to Reinhard's intelligence justification, adding that he's not an extraordinary genius in ordinary life, and extended it.
Reinhard's intelligence is said to be normal, but his intuition is said to be incredible, so that even while taking a test he’ll get full marks from answering normally, even if it’s not multiple choice.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Zabazab/sandbox/7?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Reinhard_Q&amp;A_2/2-10"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a> In strategic games like chess he is still the strongest, not because he is smart, but because he knows where to to put his piece.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Zabazab/sandbox/7?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Reinhard's_Birthday_2019-3"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a> Even in contests of luck, he will win because he knows the right answer.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Zabazab/sandbox/7?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Reinhard's_Birthday_2019-3"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a> His natural talent is such that he can quickly learn things he was previously inexperienced in,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Zabazab/sandbox/7?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Reinhard's_Birthday_2018-28"><span>[</span>28<span>]</span></a> and he is mentioned to be perfect in the field of music,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Zabazab/sandbox/7?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Reinhard's_Birthday_2019-3"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a> and even if he wasn't a Divine Protection would make him so. He has the Divine Protection of Arithmetic, which grants him talent in mathematics.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Zabazab/sandbox/7?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-102"><span>[</span>95<span>]</span></a> He can weave through a barrage of water droplets and grains of dirt, with each projectile being deadly,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ndomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_19,_Chapter_1-26"><span>[</span>26<span>]</span></a> even in extreme close-quarters,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ndomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_19,_Chapter_1-26"><span>[</span>26<span>]</span></a> as well as run through a rainstorm while avoiding every raindrop.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Zabazab/sandbox/7?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Felt's_Birthday_2018-57"><span>[</span>57<span>]</span></a> Transcendents like himself can avoid disguised deadly rain by instinctive intuition,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_8,_Chapter_72-38"><span>[</span>38<span>]</span></a> and he is said to be able to evade an undodgeable rain or mist of light.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_8,_Chapter_74-58"><span>[</span>58<span>]</span></a> He is a natural genius who<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ndomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_20,_Chapter_1-62"><span>[</span>62<span>]</span></a> is a master of martial arts, swordsmanship, and countless other styles.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ndomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_20,_Chapter_1-62"><span>[</span>62<span>]</span></a> Reinhard’s sword technique captures every ounce of performance that can be extracted by any weapon he uses, even a throwaway sword at its end of life, sleeping away in a cellar, shines like some treasured sword passed on by legend across generations.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...fandomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_1,_Chapter_5-8"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a>

Reinhard's swordsmanship is unparalleled even when compared to past Sword Saints such as Theresia van Astrea, who stood at the very pinnacle of swordsmanship,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...domdesktop#cite_note-Ex_Novel_2,_Stanza_7-103"><span>[</span>96<span>]</span></a> the sheer might of her overwhelming, natural-born genius utterly crushing the time and effort of anyone else.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...andomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_20,_Chapter_5-6"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a> The Divine Protection of the Sword Saint bestowed her flawless battle instincts, regardless of whether it's a holy sword, enchanted sword, or even the Dragon Sword itself, no steel would not lay bare in her hands,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...andomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_20,_Chapter_5-6"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a> and she was even blessed with intimate knowledge of not only swords, but any weapon whatsoever so long as it was connected to battle.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...n=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_5,_Chapter_73-7"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a> To even the skilled soldiers of the Kingdom, all Theresia saw in their fighting styles were imperfections—<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...n=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_5,_Chapter_73-7"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a> when the soldiers’ mistakes were pointed out to them by her one by one, they would eventually correct themselves. However, from Theresia’s perspective, although the way of fixing those faults may be correct, it was never enough. Without even turning around, she caught Wilhelm's silent surprise attack which came from behind her<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...domdesktop#cite_note-Ex_Novel_2,_Stanza_7-103"><span>[</span>96<span>]</span></a> between 2 fingers. She thought Wilhelm's swordsmanship was lacking<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...andomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_20,_Chapter_5-6"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a> in his youth, despite him already being the most skilled swordsman in the Kingdom. Wilhelm himself thought Theresia's swordsmanship could never be reached<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ndomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_7,_Chapter_5-104"><span>[</span>97<span>]</span></a> in a lifetime or eternity. Merely witnessing Theresia in battle made Wilhelm despair for his own ability as a swordsman,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...domdesktop#cite_note-Ex_Novel_2,_Stanza_7-103"><span>[</span>96<span>]</span></a> to the point that he was confused as to how anyone could worry for her safety even as she fought a thousand soldiers by herself. While she was unarmed, a light dancing step from Theresia completely nullified the ultimate demonstration of Wilhelm's life as a swordsman,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...domdesktop#cite_note-Ex_Novel_2,_Stanza_7-103"><span>[</span>96<span>]</span></a> as if he were merely a little boy.

Wilhelm van Astrea said that despite having been able to surpass Theresia in swordsmanship in the past, Reinhard's skill is not even remotely in the realm of achievable, in a different world<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...andomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_20,_Chapter_4-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a> from everyone and everything else. Wilhelm was already the greatest swordsman of the domain<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ndomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_7,_Chapter_5-104"><span>[</span>97<span>]</span></a> at just 14 years old, his skill having already surpassed 15 normal youths combined<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ndomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_7,_Chapter_5-104"><span>[</span>97<span>]</span></a> before he had ever seen live combat. To prove his skills, Wilhelm fought in an arena against 40 of the most elite warriors the kingdom had to offer,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...op#cite_note-Ex_Novel_3,_Their_Later_Tale-105"><span>[</span>98<span>]</span></a> some being his own extraordinary comrades,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...op#cite_note-Ex_Novel_3,_Their_Later_Tale-105"><span>[</span>98<span>]</span></a> and defeated every last one of them with hardly a scratch.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...op#cite_note-Ex_Novel_3,_Their_Later_Tale-105"><span>[</span>98<span>]</span></a> Wilhelm's skills matched evenly against Kurgan's, the strongest warrior from the southern empire, depite Kurgan having a superior build, four weapons, and eight arms.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...l_3,_The_Silver_Flower_Dance_of_Picoutatte-42"><span>[</span>42<span>]</span></a> He countered Kurgan's simultaneous attacks from multiple directions, despite being airborne,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...l_3,_The_Silver_Flower_Dance_of_Picoutatte-42"><span>[</span>42<span>]</span></a> by allowong his bones to be broken in exchange for slicing off one of Kurgan's arms. In their rematch, Wilhelm made use of the cityscape to lay down his offensive, his agility allowing him to evade attacks that would kill him if they snagged just a shred of clothing.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ite_note-Sword_Demon_Battle_Ballad,_Act_8-106"><span>[</span>99<span>]</span></a> With his monstrous skill, Wilhelm struck the same spot of Kurgan's cleavers repeatedly as their blades clashed, finally shattering a weapon.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ite_note-Sword_Demon_Battle_Ballad,_Act_8-106"><span>[</span>99<span>]</span></a>

After the battle for the Watergate City of Priestella, Wilhelm honed his swordsmanship and regained skills comparable to what he was capable of in his prime,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_9,_Chapter_26-65"><span>[</span>65<span>]</span></a> in the age when he had been the Kingdom's sword. Wilhelm has a terrifying way of fighting, possessed of both an exceptionally keen sense of combat and powers of observation, as well as the unwavering determination to risk his life<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_9,_Chapter_26-65"><span>[</span>65<span>]</span></a> based on what he saw with his own eyes. When the floor that he had kicked away rebounded towards him with twice the speed and force, he voided all of its power by stabbing the dead center of its mass with surgical precision,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_9,_Chapter_26-65"><span>[</span>65<span>]</span></a> a feat of genius in the realm of the divine. In a single short battle, using just his observations, he figured out the nature of Yae's steel threads, kicking off of them at the precise angle with the right force to use them as a foothold<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_9,_Chapter_26-65"><span>[</span>65<span>]</span></a> and escape from an unavoidable storm of steel threads in a confined space.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_9,_Chapter_26-65"><span>[</span>65<span>]</span></a> Wilhelm's swordsmanship is so refined that even when faced with fiery explosions in a confined space,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_9,_Chapter_26-65"><span>[</span>65<span>]</span></a> he neutralized them by simply cutting them.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_9,_Chapter_26-65"><span>[</span>65<span>]</span></a>

At the rare pinnacle of Wilhelm's swordsmanship, which he reached only in moments of extreme emotion or pressure, Wilhelm displayed a level of skill that could be described as placing a foot down<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ite_note-Sword_Demon_Battle_Ballad,_Act_8-106"><span>[</span>99<span>]</span></a> on the steps towards the Heavenly Sword, the apex of technique that many warriors strive towards. Wilhelm makes use of everything to elevate his swordsmanship– encroaching, leaping, brandishing, parrying, maintaining posture, transfering bodyweight, guiding vision, applying technique, utilizing obstacles–<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_9,_Chapter_29-107"><span>[</span>100<span>]</span></a> his nature being akin to a beast's uncouth violence; the violence turned to drive, the drive sublimated to technique, and finally arriving at the status of legendary. Wilhelm's transcendental swordsmanship embodies all of the battlefields he has fought upon: his experiences against the strongest opponents<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_9,_Chapter_29-107"><span>[</span>100<span>]</span></a> of his era honing his blade. Theresia's ability to intuitively grasp her opponents most vulnerable point,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...l_3,_The_Silver_Flower_Dance_of_Picoutatte-42"><span>[</span>42<span>]</span></a> and see floating white rays of battle which she need only trace with a blade<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...andomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_20,_Chapter_5-6"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a> to unquestionably kill her opponent had no effect on Wilhelm,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...andomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_20,_Chapter_5-6"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a> as his swordsmanship unconsciously severed those rays.

Wilhelm's skills in his old age were inferior to when he was in his prime,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...andomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_8,_Chapter_3-74"><span>[</span>74<span>]</span></a> but even so he still possessed 50 years of combat experience as a master swordsman, making him a superhuman even among superhumans.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Zabazab/sandbox/7?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-108"><span>[</span>101<span>]</span></a> He was able to anticipate his opponents attacks by watching the movements of their eyes, feeling their hostility, reading how they breathe as they aim—<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...andomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_8,_Chapter_2-13"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a> countering with perfect timing even if the attacks are invisible. Wilhelm has superhuman, god-like combat capabilities that make it possible to dodge<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...andomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_8,_Chapter_2-13"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a> 30+ invisible arms— which even Julius, who can react to invisible attacks on instinct,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...x_Novel_4,_Imperial_Diplomacy_of_Bloodshed-36"><span>[</span>36<span>]</span></a> was unable to detect— just by reacting to the effect the arms had on the dirt in the air. When the number of arms increased further, Wilhelm still faced Petelgeuse and his Unseen Hand by himself, battling the invisible arms which could freely alter their range, direction, and overwhelm the enemy with numbers; by moving beyond the limits of his vision, swaying, accelerating, flipping, toying with his enemy,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Zabazab/sandbox/7?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-109"><span>[</span>102<span>]</span></a> and drawing ever closer to victory. Those on the level of Wilhelm and Theresia are masters whose skill surpassed the realm of mere humans.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...andomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_20,_Prologue-68"><span>[</span>68<span>]</span></a> Garfiel freaked out after Wilhelm showed him just a fragment of the summit of strength<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Zabazab/sandbox/7?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-110"><span>[</span>103<span>]</span></a> he is aiming for. Wilhelm was on the same level as Theresia's Corpse Soldier, who possessed such supreme skill that she could steal away the function a person's leg<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...andomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_20,_Chapter_4-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a> without doing any unnecessary destruction, only having the barest amount of blood on her sword.

Reinhard's abilities surpass those of the young Cecilus Segmunt, who by watching Al fight just a single time, was able to correctly guess that he possessed an Authority and what that Authority does through sheer intuition,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_8,_Chapter_36-59"><span>[</span>59<span>]</span></a> and his intuition also correctly informed him that killing too many zombies would be a bad idea<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Zabazab/sandbox/7?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-111"><span>[</span>104<span>]</span></a> despite being unaware of their connection to the Stone. He single-handedly defeated every soldier in a Vollachian Fortress with just his bare-hands, all while ensuring he didn't kill anyone.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Zabazab/sandbox/7?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-112"><span>[</span>105<span>]</span></a> To advertise himself to a young Vincent Abellux, Cecilus slaughtered 200 warriors without allowing a single drop of blood to touch himself.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Zabazab/sandbox/7?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-113"><span>[</span>106<span>]</span></a> Cecilus possesses a perfect memory– he never forgets a place or object he has seen before.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_8,_Chapter_57-12"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a> He was also able to weave through invisible sniper-fire by sheer guesswork,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_8,_Chapter_36-59"><span>[</span>59<span>]</span></a> and is said to possess the talent<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_7,_Chapter_104-89"><span>[</span>89<span>]</span></a> to reach Reid Astrea's level of skill. He not only located and killed the mastermind the Great Disaster before anyone knew what was even happening,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Zabazab/sandbox/7?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-114"><span>[</span>107<span>]</span></a> he also then recognized that same enemy at a glance despite their appearance and soul changing,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Zabazab/sandbox/7?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-115"><span>[</span>108<span>]</span></a> with him even noticing that their soul had changed.

That same Cecilus has a brain possessing incredible processing power, he is constantly taking in information from his surroundings in order to grasp the location of everyone and everything nearby,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_8,_Chapter_57-12"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a> and his analysis of physicality and behaviour allows him to accurately predict the location of everyone in the vicinity without focusing on them. His mastery of the Flow Method allows him to actively control each and every one of his senses,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_8,_Chapter_57-12"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a> as well as accelerate his own thoughts in order to process the world in extreme slow-motion;<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_8,_Chapter_57-12"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a> such that in the middle of avoiding a flurry of deadly projectiles, he was able to mull over his feelings regarding the current battle, cause a second Cecilus to be born from his accelerated thoughts,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_8,_Chapter_57-12"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a> conversate with the second Cecilus, and then battle with the second Cecilus to determine which will return to regular time as the true Cecilus.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_8,_Chapter_57-12"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a> His mental processing even allowed him to, upon wielding a sword for the very first time, train with the blade for days upon days within his mind, swinging it hundreds of millions of times, all within a fraction of a second in reality,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_8,_Chapter_57-12"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a> and then utilize the fruits of his efforts immediately in combat.

Reinhard's skills far surpass those of Elsa Granhiert in single-combat, who is a warrior possessing excellent technique, overwhelming combat intuition, and impossibly fine control<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ndomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_15,_Chapter_3-73"><span>[</span>73<span>]</span></a> over her own body. Her skills allow her to keep complete control of a fight, while avoiding large attacks in a cellar<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...fandomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_1,_Chapter_5-8"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a> with very little room to move around. This godlike skill means she could avoid a countless number of ice shards flying all around a room: spinning around, ducking so low she appeared to crawl, stepping off walls to seemingly ignore gravity, and cutting through attacks that were unavoidable,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...fandomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_1,_Chapter_5-8"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a> matching what her opponent had in numbers with her own overwhelming degree of skill. Even when attacked in her blind-spot, with perfect timing, at the perfect angle,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...fandomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_1,_Chapter_5-8"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a> she easily countered and redirected the attack. Elsa can anticipate the course of movement and aims of her opponent, merely by reading the fluctuations in her opponent's gaze and muscles.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Zabazab/sandbox/7?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-116"><span>[</span>109<span>]</span></a> Countering unseen attacks aimed at her back, without even turning around,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...fandomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_1,_Chapter_5-8"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a> is effortless for her. Every technique she encounters even once in battle doesn't work a second time against her, as she foresees it coming<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ndomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_15,_Chapter_3-73"><span>[</span>73<span>]</span></a> and promptly avoids and punishes the repetition. Even if a countless number of attacks are used, so long as she's seen it once before, every last one will fail to reach Elsa.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ndomdesktop#cite_note-Volume_12,_Chapter_3-50"><span>[</span>50<span>]</span></a>

Despite Elsa having her senses cut off by Shamak,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...domdesktop#cite_note-Volume_11,_Chapter_2-117"><span>[</span>110<span>]</span></a> Elsa managed to accurately aim at her target's vitals<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...domdesktop#cite_note-Volume_11,_Chapter_2-117"><span>[</span>110<span>]</span></a> and avoid an attack that blew away the entire room she was in,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...domdesktop#cite_note-Volume_11,_Chapter_2-117"><span>[</span>110<span>]</span></a> by following her intuition. Elsa's intuition also directed her to chase a fleeing carriage rather than follow her orders,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...-Red_Snowfall_on_the_Orcos_Domain,_Part_1-118"><span>[</span>111<span>]</span></a> which led her to locating her true target. She has a commendable sense of timing, exploiting a brief moment of distraction to attack, and her prodigious abilities meant<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...?useskin=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Kasaneru2-33"><span>[</span>33<span>]</span></a> she could halt her own blade mid-swing as soon as she realized it would kill her sister. Elsa's incredible combat instincts allow her to dodge attacks too fast for her to perceive,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...-Red_Snowfall_on_the_Orcos_Domain,_Part_1-118"><span>[</span>111<span>]</span></a> and analyze how to overcome the fighting style of her opponent in the middle of combat.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...-Red_Snowfall_on_the_Orcos_Domain,_Part_1-118"><span>[</span>111<span>]</span></a> Elsa is an expert in stealth, able to easily leave a guarded building undetected by lurking in the gaps in consciousnesses and slipping past the watchful eye at a quick pace, without making a sound, leaving even her shadow behind.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...-Red_Snowfall_on_the_Orcos_Domain,_Part_2-119"><span>[</span>112<span>]</span></a> She can anticipate incoming surprise attacks,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...-Red_Snowfall_on_the_Orcos_Domain,_Part_2-119"><span>[</span>112<span>]</span></a> and weave through multiple coordinated beyond-supersonic whips, where even being grazed meant serious injury, by practically ignoring the concepts of floors, walls, or ceilings,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...-Red_Snowfall_on_the_Orcos_Domain,_Part_2-119"><span>[</span>112<span>]</span></a> all without using her arms.

I've added some new weaknesses for Reinhard, and removed the weakness about his his EMCC affecting allies as well, since it's not as though it's negatively affecting himself.
Weaknesses: Reinhard's Gate cannot release mana, and he lacks any magical affinity, meaning he can never use magic. His Excess Mana Circulation Constitution becomes a detriment if he is surrounded by intense miasma, as his Gate will absorb the corrupted mana, weakening his physical abilities.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...n=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_9,_Chapter_14-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> The Divine Protection of the Sword Saint cannot read the future attacks of an individual who does not believe they are performing an attack. Reinhard can only request whichever Divine Protection he feels he needs in a specific moment (whether it exists or not), he cannot simply manifest any ability whatsoever, and he cannot receive Divine Protections to counter phenomena neither he nor Od Lagna are aware of.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...n=fandomdesktop#cite_note-Arc_9,_Chapter_14-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> Reinhard's Divine Protections will work as long as he does not deactivate them. He can choose to deactivate and even erase them altogether, which would make him vulnerable. He is also vulnerable against Authorities, unique abilities granted by Witch Factors that were held by the Witches of Sin and now the Sin Archbishops of the Witch Cult, as they will never lose to a Divine Protection, though his many Divine Protections will grant him a higher chance of survival and victory in a battle against Authority users.
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I've added an extensive Feat Box, linking numerous scans of Reinhard's own feats, divided among Strength, Speed, Durability, Divine Protections, Skill, and Intuition.

I've added details about Reinhard's Divine Protections, and added new Divine Protections to Reinhard's existing list. This is the new list:
  • Divine Protection of the Sword Saint: His skill in swordsmanship is supernaturally increased to the limit of his theoretical natural talent, making him a genius in swordsmanship: whether it's a Holy Sword, Enchanted Sword, or the Dragon Sword itself, no steel will not lay bare in his hands. This expertise extends to all forms of combat— be it swords, spears, or axes— so long as it is connected to battle he understands their strengths and weaknesses completely. It gives him the ability to draw the Dragon Sword Reid, and it lets him cut that which cannot be cut. He also receives flawless battle instincts, and can see floating white rays of battle drawn out by the Sword God that he need only trace with his sword to unquestionably kill his opponent.
  • Divine Protection of the Phoenix: Upon death, he is granted a one-time "Continue?" so long as his soul is intact, resurrecting his body and cleansing him of negative effects. He has already used this Divine Protection when he was killed in his fight with the Sin Archbishop Regulus. While this Divine Protection could only be used once and he can't receive the same benefit a second time, he will acquire a new Divine Protection with a similar effect, Divine Protection of the Phoenix – Next, and if that Divine Protection is used, he will acquire Divine Protection of the Phoenix – Next Next, and so on endlessly, as the World won't let him die.
  • Divine Protection of Anti-Magic: He has immunity against magical buffs, magical debuffs, and Curse Arts.
  • Divine Protection of Fire Avoidance: Makes him cut 80% of the damage of Fire Magic.
  • Divine Protection of Fireplay: Makes him resistant to general fire and explosive damage.
  • Divine Protection of Sunburn: Makes him unable to receive any burns whatsoever.
  • Divine Protection of Water Drainage: Allows him to reflect 80% of Water Magic.
  • Divine Protection of Waterplay: Makes him resistant to general water damage.
  • Divine Protection of Water Avoidance: Cuts the damage of Water Magic used against him.
  • Divine Protection of Wind Absorption: Lets him absorb 80% of Wind Magic.
  • Divine Protection of Mud Slippage: Decreases the effect of Earth Magic on him by 80%.
  • Divine Protection of Sandplay: His feet won't sink into sand, and he is unaffected by changes in the terrain. May reduce the effect of earthern attacks.
  • Divine Protection of Darkness Nullification: Causes him to nullify 80% of Yin Magic.
  • Divine Protection of Light Disentanglement: Permits him to split the transfer of 80% of Yang Magic to another target.
  • Divine Protection of Arrow Evasion: All ranged attacks, such as thrown weapons, will change their trajectory to miss him, effectively making it impossible to hit him from afar.
  • Divine Protection of Arrow Striking: All of his ranged attacks will automatically hit their target.
  • Divine Protection of Initiative: His first attack on an opponent always lands, and he can never fall victim to surprise attacks.
  • Divine Protection of First Sight: He will instinctively know how to counter or dodge attacks that he is experiencing for the first time, akin to precognition. This includes surprise attacks, and he will be awakened should he be sleeping. But if he is unable to physically avoid or counter the attack, the Divine Protection will not activate.
  • Divine Protection of the Second Coming: He will intuitively respond to attacks that he experiences twice or more with a vastly greater speed, including surprise attacks, and he will be awakened should he be sleeping. This effectively causes attacks to not land on him, making it an effective ability against formidable opponents.
  • Divine Protection of Swift Running: He is permitted to move at unusually swift speeds.
  • Divine Protection of Detoxification: He is unaffected by all toxic substances such as drugs, poisons, and alcohol.
  • Divine Protection of Panacea: He is immune to all diseases.
  • Divine Protection of the Child of Wind: He is prevented from becoming sick.
  • Divine Protection of Anti-Malignence: He can resist the effects of miasma.
  • Divine Protection of Nightmares: He is exceptionally resistant to mental contamination and attacks on the mind.
  • Divine Protection of Wind Evasion: He is unaffected by the wind and does not encounter any wind resistance while running. The effect also applies to the passengers he may carry or transport. After activation, there is a cool-down period before he can use it again.
  • Divine Protection of Training: He is made to have a keen insight into training not only himself, but also other people.
  • Divine Protection of Instruction: He can assist with a student's performance when teaching.
  • Divine Protection of Handling: He knows how to use and master any item he holds.
  • Divine Protection of the Weapon God: He is able to use any weapon masterfully.
  • Divine Protection of Unarmed Combat: He is very strong with his bare hands.
  • Divine Protection of Judgement: He is able to able to know of any Divine Protections that another individual has.
  • Divine Protection of Doubt: He is able to know if someone is up to no good.
  • Divine Protection of the Lightning Cloud: Lightning can never strike him.
  • Divine Protection of Telepathy: He can communicate telepathically with any visible friends, and he can hear certain thoughts.
  • Divine Protection of Vehicle Riding: He can ride any kind of vehicle.
  • Divine Protection of Animal Riding: He can ride any kind of animal.
  • Divine Protection of Lakes: He can choose to walk upon water as if it were solid ground, or to sink normally.
  • Divine Protection of Clouds: He can walk upon clouds as if they were solid ground.
  • Divine Protection of Fog: His view cannot be hindered by fog.
  • Divine Protection of Air Dashing: He can kick off of and fly through the air.
  • Divine Protection of Ball Balancing: He can take control of any spherical objects he physically interacts with. This even allowed him to take control of a star launched towards him.
  • Divine Protection of Blue Skies: He becomes stronger when under blue skies.
  • Divine Protection of Teary Skies: He becomes stronger when under rainy skies.
  • Divine Protection of New Skies: He becomes stronger when under the morning sky.
  • Divine Protection of Night Skies: He becomes stronger when under the night sky.
  • Divine Protection of Stormy Skies: While unconfirmed, it likely makes him stronger under stormy skies.
  • Divine Protection of Shedding Blood: He becomes stronger as he sheds more blood.
  • Divine Protection of Drafts: He knows where any escape route is.
  • Divine Protection of Earth Spirits: As long as his feet are on the ground, the earth's power pours mana into him. He has a tough guard of earth on his body, can manipulate the earth, and accelarate recovery of his wounds and stamina.
  • Divine Protection of ??? Spirits: He likely possesses the other 5 elemental variations of the Divine Protection of Earth Spirits; Fire, Water, Wind, Yin, and Yang.
  • Unnamed Anti-Nuke Divine Protection: If a tactical nuke was used against him, it wouldn't go off.
  • Divine Protection of Salt Reasoning: He never mistakes salt with sugar.
  • Divine Protection of Fried Food: He excels in making fried food.
  • Divine Protection of Steamed Food: He has supreme skill in making steamed food.
  • Divine Protection of Roasted Food: He has supreme skill in making roasted food.
  • Divine Protection of Boiled Food: He has supreme skill in making boiled food.
  • Divine Protection of Baked Food: He has supreme skill in making baked food.
  • Divine Protection of Fresh Sashimi: He has supreme skill in making fresh sashimi.
  • Divine Protection of Flavour King: He has the ability to make delicious food regardless of the cooking process.
  • Divine Protection of Plating: He excels at serving foods.
  • Divine Protection of Photo-Realism: He excels in painting or drawing to the point that his artwork can be mistaken for photographs.
  • Divine Protection of Arithmetic: He excels in the field of mathematics.
  • Divine Protection of Fashion: He can excel as a clothing designer and quickly sew new clothes or fix damaged clothes if he has a needle and thread.
  • Divine Protection of Laundry: He excels in washing clothes to such an extent that he can make blood-stained clothes look as good as new.
  • Divine Protection of Makeup: He excels in using makeup, and his skills allow him to be an incredible crossdresser who none would suspect as being a man.
  • Divine Protection of Hairdressing: He can be a charismatic hairdresser.
  • Divine Protection of Gardening: He has an easier time with gardening, turning the process into trial and error.
  • Divine Protection of Vegetation: He can restore and revive damaged plant life.
  • Divine Protection of Shoelaces: The effect of this Divine Protection is unknown.
  • Divine Protection of Wearing Layers: The effect of this Divine Protection is unknown.
  • Divine Protection of the Tiger's Den: The effect of this Divine Protection is unknown.
  • Potentially:
    • Divine Protection of Mind-Changing: He can change the mind of the person he targets with the Divine Protection. Due to its potency, this Divine Protection has been renowned as being dangerous to the rule of nations throughout history, and is powerful enough to turn an anti-nobility freedom fighter into the Captain of the Royal Guard. He willingly deactivated and erased this Divine Protection at the age of 4.
    • Divine Protection of Coercion: He can imbue his words with a compulsory force that exerts his commands upon others.
    • Divine Protection of Wind Indication: He can read the wind and see invisible things just like the wind. He can also use it to read the situation of others' emotions, making him able to tell if someone has lied. Those who are skilled at hiding their emotions cannot be accurately read.
    • Divine Protection of the Sun: He gets stronger during the day, and increases the effects of buffs.
    • Divine Protection of Durability: The power of this Divine Protection can be engraved into objects such as armour, vastly increasing its durability so long as the person using the object does not run dry of mana.
    • Divine Protection of the Soul of Language: Enables him to be able to understand the meaning of sounds produced by any living creature to convey meaning, and speak with said living creature in turn. This even allows him to understand the nuance of words, so an unknown term such as "gasoline" would sound like "special oil that burns well". However he speaks in the language of the creature they're talking with, which can make him look shady to others. This Divine Protection is dangerous to the user, as the influx of voices can drive one mad akin to a hellish cradle, and overusing its power causes swelling of the brain.
    • Divine Protection of Gathering Spirits: Spirits are naturally attracted to him, feeling a great sense of adoration. Lesser and Quasi Spirits are effected immediately, while developed Spirits only feel the attraction but aren't overwhelmed by it. It should be noted that Reinhard's natural attractiveness to Spirits already rivals the effect of this Divine Protection.
    • Divine Protection of the Death God: Slashes imbued with the Divine Protection's power leave wounds that are unable to be healed, even by cellular regeneration. The power of the Divine Protection increases the closer he is to the target, and he can even reopen wounds others have if they are close enough and were originally inflicted by him. If the wound expands so does the effect of the Divine Protection, if the wound was a light cut on the finger and the target cut off said finger this new wound becomes the target of the Divine Protection. The effects disappear if the user dies.
    • Divine Protection of Evaluation: He can determine if an item is of good or bad quality, and if the item is in front of him, he can evaluate its condition and quality with perfect accuracy. However, if he is evaluating an item he's never seen before, he can only know if it's of good or bad quality, and gains no knowledge of how it's used or how much it's worth.
    • Divine Protection of Empathy: He can read the feelings of any person he touches, and is capable of making two people understand each other by simply touching them and standing inbetween them.
    • Divine Protection of Bedroom Wiles: He is extremely skilled in bed.
    • Divine Protection of Far-Sight: He can see the precise location of a target and closely observe opponents that fulfill specific conditions, regardless of distance or obstructing objects.
    • Divine Protection of Ambush: He becomes difficult to find or notice, and his presence is concealed from being detected by others. However, sounds and smells are not concealed.
    • Divine Protection of Morale: The more excited or motivated he feels, the more his physical abilities increase in response. However, the Divine Protection is a double-edged sword, since because it is affected by his mood, it also diminishes his abilities if he feels sad or enters a depressive state.
    • Felt's Unnamed Divine Protection: He can use an ability, related to the wind, that seemingly allows him to move faster than he otherwise could, accelerate to top-speed in an instant, and parkour through cityscapes.
    • Divine Protection of Insensitivity: He can't be interfered with by any outside influences, whether it be magical enhancement or impairment.

I've edited the remainder of Reinhard's notable attacks/techniques to include the Flow Method, and edited his swordplay, EMCC, and intuition.
  • The Flow Method: Reinhard possesses an extraordinary Od which produces an explosive synergy of internal and external mana, without any loss in the slightest. This combined with his congenital Excess Mana Circulation Constitution, which inordinately absorbs and circulates ambient mana throughout his body, has allowed Reinhard to naturally utilize the Flow Method from birth: a technique in which warriors manipulate their body's mana, circulating it in order to enhance their own strength, speed, reflexes, toughness, senses, and cognitive ability. That is to say, it's as if Reinhard breathing normally has a hundred times the effect of anyone else taking a deep breath, while still allowing Reinhard the freedom to take a deep breath himself.
  • Swordplay of the Astrea Family:As the world's current greatest swordsman, Reinhard displays transcendant abilities with the sword. Even wielding a rusted, shabby sword at the end of its life, he utilizes such divine technique that the blade shines like a treasured sword spoken of for generations. With a single serious sword-strike, he releases a flash that rumbles the atmosphere, splits space itself in two, slices into the sky, and is capable of vaporizing most opponents— however the blade's demise is all but certain, as few can channel his abilities.
    • Swordplay with the Dragon Sword Reid: Upon drawing the enchanted sword that refuses to be unsheathed before unworthy foes, Reinhard's swordplay reaches its full potential as this legendary steel will not falter even in the hands of the Sword Saint. The sword-flash released by Reinhard upon drawing Reid was described as shattering the earth, splitting the sky, sending cracks through the atmosphere, and causing the world to slide along the arc of his sword— followed by an immediate correction in the world— the shattered earth repairing, the split sky healing, the cracked atmosphere returning to its proper state, the world being destroyed and rebirthed simultaneously by a single swing of swordsmanship. The opponent bathed in this attack is completely obliterated from the world without a trace, the very idea that a battle took place seeming to be no more than a dream.
  • Excess Mana Circulation Constitution: Reinhard was born with a rare, though not unique, physical trait which inordinately absorbs and circulates ambient mana throughout his body. This causes all magic in his presence to completely unravel in composition; having failed to produce any distortions in reality, it is essentially just a formless stream of mana which blindly follows Reinhard, and is absorbed by his defective Gate. This means that Reinhard is not only unable to be harmed by magic, it actually makes him stronger.
  • Superhuman Intuition: Reinhard has an incredible intuition which alerts him of danger and distinguishes all attacks in advance, even if invisible or in large numbers, akin to precognition. He will win games of luck because he "knows the right answer", and it has been said he would get full marks on a test just by following his intuition, even if it isn't multiple-choice. Advanced intuition is a common trait among the transcendent beings of the world, leading them to consistently "guess" the right decision or correct answer in many situations, especially in combat. However this skill is not omniscient, and there are times where he makes mistakes or can't find a solution, particularly if the solution is rather convoluted.
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That's about it. Feel free to ask questions or suggest changes. It's a pretty big page so I imagine I've made some errors.
 
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I'd hope not. The sandbox's byte count is already double that of Reinhard's current page.
 
I agree with most of them, though i have a few questions.
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This scan doesn't talk about Minya though, no? Do we know for sure that it was Minya?
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Regulus himself tells Reinhard how he affected those after Reinhard got hit. Reinhard was told about the situation, so i don't think this counts at all.
  • Deconstruction & Absorption (Matter, Mind, Soul, & Concept; His Divine Protection of Darkness Nullification nullifies 80% of Yin Magic, thus resists this ability from Satella)
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Wasn't the "concept" part "it FELT as if his existence had broken and turned into concepts" rather than for real aka the reason why it wasn't added in the first place?

Edit: Some intelligence section parts shouldn't be added in my opinion as i don't think they are related to skill. Like "Cecilus possesses a perfect memory– he never forgets a place or object he has seen before." even if someone is as skilled as Cecilus, or as smart as him, they wouldn't get things like this unless they show it as they are seem to be more than just skill related ability.
 
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MrTayman616 said:
This scan doesn't talk about Minya though, no? Do we know for sure that it was Minya?
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Yeah it was Minya. From volume 12, chapter 3.

MrTayman616 said:
Regulus himself tells Reinhard how he affected those after Reinhard got hit. Reinhard was told about the situation, so i don't think this counts at all.
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That's not the order of events. As described in the last scan, Reinhard jumped away from Regulus and then froze because he sensed danger from the empty air behind him, and then Regulus explains that he's already applied Lion's Heart to the air.

MrTayman616 said:
Wasn't the "concept" part was that "it was as if his existence had broken and turned into concepts" rather than for real aka why it wasn't added?
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It's from the following thing I wrote up a while ago. If folks agree with concept stuff I'll keep it on Reinhard's thing, and if they don't agree I'll remove it from Reinhard's thing.
(Anything the Witch's shadows swallow dissolve like an object in water, contaminating their very concept with shadow. Within her shadow, everything is dissolved, being broken down into concepts, and blended with everything else she has swallowed. People who are swallowed are erased by means of becoming part of a single heterogeneous whole)
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Phsccarvalho said:
Put the list of changes in the crt.
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I actually really don't want to since it's like 50 thousand bytes of difference. If I'm bullied enough, I might do it.

A lot of it would be added justifications to resistances, added Dragon Sword abilities, a new Feat Box (which I am very happy with), and way more of his divine protections listed.
 
Zabazab said:
I actually really don't want to since it's like 50 thousand bytes of difference. If I'm bullied enough, I might do it.

A lot of it would be added justifications to resistances, added Dragon Sword abilities, a new Feat Box (which I am very happy with), and way more of his divine protections listed.
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Actually you do.
 
Zabazab said:
That's not the order of events. As described in the last scan, Reinhard jumped away from Regulus and then froze because he sensed danger from the empty air behind him, and then Regulus explains that he's already applied Lion's Heart to the air.
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Regulus states "You have a monstrous ability to evade, dodging even dirt and waterdroplets, but you’re too naive. If you truly intend to challenge me, you muststay ever vigilant. Even my breath requires caution. Sighs are no exception.” at vol.19 chapter 1. where Reinhard loses his leg.

Next scan happens later.

He gains more understanding of his ability as they fight + via Regulus's explanations and showcase of his ability. So i don't think this counts as a layer.
Zabazab said:
Yeah it was Minya. From volume 12, chapter 3.
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Do we know if Minya hit her successfully? This scan doesn't show anything like that. (I really forget the details of the fighting scenes lol)
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It's from the following thing I wrote up a while ago. If folks agree with concept stuff I'll keep it on Reinhard's thing, and if they don't agree I'll remove it from Reinhard's thing.
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My opinion is removal, as it doesn't say it literally but "as if".
 
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Actually you do.
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I didn't say I don't have to I said I don't want to. Gimme a bit and I'll bullet it down. It's essentially just going to be every bit of the page, but written in the OP.

MrTayman616 said:
Regulus states "You have a monstrous ability to evade, dodging even dirt and waterdroplets, but you’re too naive. If you truly intend to challenge me, you muststay ever vigilant. Even my breath requires caution. Sighs are no exception.” at vol.19 chapter 1. where Reinhard loses his leg.
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It's the fact that he was unable to sense danger from Regulus' sigh, but could later sense the danger from the air behind him. Which I would consider as gaining the ability to sense the locked air.

MrTayman616 said:
Do we know if Minya hit her successfully? This scan doesn't show anything like that. (I really forget the details of the fighting scenes lol)
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Yes that's what resulted in Elsa being shattered.

MrTayman616 said:
My opinion is removal, as it doesn't say it literally but "as if".
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Noted!
 
Zabazab said:
It's the fact that he was unable to sense danger from Regulus' sigh, but could later sense the danger from the air behind him. Which I would consider as gaining the ability to sense the locked air.
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He didn't know Regulus's ability was affecting them before. So he just gained more awareness of his ability and knows what to be careful of as Regulus explained more and more.

This happened via knowing the opponent's ability more and more rather than his own ability growing. At the very least, nothing implies it to be the case imo.
Zabazab said:
Yes that's what resulted in Elsa being shattered.
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MrTayman616 said:
He didn't know Regulus's ability was affecting them before. So he just gained more awareness of his ability and knows what to be careful of as Regulus explained more and more.

This happened via knowing the opponent's ability more and more rather than his own ability growing. At the very least, nothing implies it to be the case imo.
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I don't believe gaining awareness of the fact that air can be affected by Lion's Heart would then allow his sixth sense to automatically detect when air has been imbued with Greed's Authority. He didn't see or learn that Regulus had actually touched that air, his sixth sense simply alerted him that it was dangerous.

Phsccarvalho said:
So do this, it's a wiki discussion rule, you have to do this.
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I said to gimme a bit, it's not so little that I can do it in five minutes. It's done now.
 
Zabazab said:
I said to gimme a bit, it's not so little that I can do it in five minutes. It's done now.
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You don't need to include everything, just what you added, changed or removed. (unless someone literally changed everything on the page completely)

For example, you didn't need to cite the thing below, since you didn't add anything to the justification, change it or remove anything from it.
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Zabazab said:
I don't believe gaining awareness of the fact that air can be affected by Lion's Heart would then allow his sixth sense to automatically detect when air has been imbued with Greed's Authority. He didn't see or learn that Regulus had actually touched that air, his sixth sense simply alerted him that it was dangerous.
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He doesn't have to know if Regulus touched that air or not, as he knows what can happen. He gained more knowledge about his ability thus his instincts would work better in this case. I don't see anything that implies his instincts grow that much in the fight or anything. Also makes more sense imo.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
You don't need to include everything
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I know. 'Twas a minor error of inclusion since it's so closely related to empowerment.

MrTayman616 said:
He doesn't have to know if Regulus touched that air or not, as he knows what can happen. He gained more knowledge about his ability thus his instincts would work better in this case. I don't see anything that implies his instincts grow that much in the fight or anything. Also makes more sense imo.
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But the process of [Cannot detect that invisible attack is an invisible attack] —> [Can now detect an invisible attack as an invisible attack] took place, that's clear growth. His sixth sense which could not detect Regulus' attack, could now do so. The sigh also wasn't even the first time Reinhard experience frozen air, first was in the church, then the sigh, and finally the envelope of air.
 
Zabazab said:
But the process of [Cannot detect that invisible attack is an invisible attack] —> [Can now detect an invisible attack as an invisible attack] took place, that's clear growth. His sixth sense which could not detect Regulus' attack, could now do so.
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That's via getting more knowledgable about Regulus's ability rather than his own ability growing to that level. He knew what could happen after experiencing it first hand.
Zabazab said:
The sigh also wasn't even the first time Reinhard experience frozen air, first was in the church, then the sigh, and finally the envelope of air.
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We don't know Reinhard's reaction for the first one. But we don't even know Reinhard thought that ability to be anything like that at all. Reinhard simply stood there and took an hit. Not just that but Regulus wasn't explaining anything to him at that point either. So it makes it meaningless for this argument regardless.

Unlike the sigh where he explains him, which is why he gets more knowledgeable about his ability. And finally his sixth sense warns him as he already knows the ability and experienced it first hand.

This doesn't imply growth but simply Reinhard knowing more and more about his ability while fighting him.
 
MrTayman616 said:
This doesn't imply growth but simply Reinhard knowing more and more about his ability while fighting him.
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But how would mere knowledge that air can be subjected to Lion's Heart then allow him to automatically sense if air has been subjected to Lion's Heart?

No matter how you slice it, Reinhard can now sense something normally imperceptible that he was unable to sense before. He detected no danger from the sigh, he didn't even understand why his leg exploded at first. Then he can detect when and which air masses are dangerous without seeing or even knowing Regulus has touched them.

I can't fathom any explanation that makes sense other than "Reinhard's sixth sense improved (maybe in direct response?) to be able to sense air affected by Lion's Heart."
 
Zabazab said:
But how would mere knowledge that air can be subjected to Lion's Heart then allow him to automatically sense if air has been subjected to Lion's Heart?

No matter how you slice it, Reinhard can now sense something normally imperceptible that he was unable to sense before. He detected no danger from the sigh, he didn't even understand why his leg exploded at first. Then he can detect when and which air masses are dangerous without seeing or even knowing Regulus has touched them.

I can't fathom any explanation that makes sense other than "Reinhard's sixth sense improved (maybe in direct response?) to be able to sense air affected by Lion's Heart."
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Why wouldn't it? Knowing the method would allow you to sense the danger better.

Now he's aware such things can be dangerous and his senses warn him cuz of that. This is completely based on his opponent explanining to him the situation and him doing better against it via these informations and experiences.
 
MrTayman616 said:
Edit: Some intelligence section parts shouldn't be added in my opinion as i don't think they are related to skill. Like "Cecilus possesses a perfect memory– he never forgets a place or object he has seen before." even if someone is as skilled as Cecilus, or as smart as him, they wouldn't get things like this unless they show it as they are seem to be more than just skill related ability.
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I 100% agree with this
 
MrTayman616 said:
Why wouldn't it? Knowing the method would allow you to sense the danger better.

Now he's aware such things can be dangerous and his senses warn him cuz of that. This is completely based on his opponent explanining to him the situation and him doing better against it via these informations and experiences.
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I can't prove a negative, I'd appreciate if you proved the positive. You need to explain why learning something can happen would then allow you to automatically sense if that thing has happened. That's the crux of the matter. Even if your interpretation was true, that'd still be an improved ESP that can sense something previously undetectable.
 
Zabazab said:
I can't prove a negative, I'd appreciate if you proved the positive.
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Quite situational imo. (Like saying "You're the one claiming it's his abilities growing etc.".)
Zabazab said:
You need to explain why learning something can happen would then allow you to automatically sense if that thing has happened. That's the crux of the matter.
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Reinhard sensed something was off. But he's currently aware things like that can happen, so it is clear that his intuition would work better.

His intuition is already good, and now he knows what to be careful of as Regulus explained him. I don't see any type of thing that even implies that his abilities grown.
Zabazab said:
Even if your interpretation was true, that'd still be an improved ESP that can sense something previously undetectable.
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No, it wouldn't be. As that's not a case of his abilities growing but acting based on having knowledge of the ability.

Edit: Also some staff ig :d
 
Btw. Conceptual deconstruction should be removed like i said before.

Not only it says "it was as if his existence had been broken apart, turned into objects", It's literally a claim by how Subaru feels about it. Unreliable for a statement and even if it was reliable, it wouldn't matter as it is not literal but just talking about how it felt rather than how it works.

No way it is an evidence enough to give conceptual deconstruction.
 
MrTayman616 said:
No way it is an evidence enough to give conceptual deconstruction.
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Raw from Volume 25, in case you wanted to see it (the official LN translation doesn't even mention concepts, but rather déjà vu).
──莫(ばく)大(だい)な黒い影に呑まれ、スバルの意識は闇の中をゆっくりと揺蕩う。

手が、足が、血が肉が、自分という存在が解体され、概念化される感覚。

何か、途(と)轍(てつ)もなく巨大な感情に呑み込まれ、自分が塗り潰されていく。

『──愛してる』

そう、誰かが何もない、真っ暗な闇の中で囁いてくるのが聞こえた。 —Volume 25, Chapter 10, "Hero", Section 6
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I think it would be fine to remove the conceptual deconstruction given it isn't a definitive statement but I would be shocked if it isn’t intended to be taken literally given every other top tier has conceptual manipulation.
 
Aight that's it I think.
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Zabazab said:
Aight that's it I think.
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I will close this then.
 
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