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Megami Tensei General Discussion Thread

This is technically not Megami Tensei, but would anyone be interested in potentially scaling Metaphor: ReFantazio (assuming it doesn't have some weird cosmological tie to MegaTen that makes it part of the verse)? I would really like to work on profiles, but I still have to finish my work on another verse.
 
This is technically not Megami Tensei, but would anyone be interested in potentially scaling Metaphor: ReFantazio (assuming it doesn't have some weird cosmological tie to MegaTen that makes it part of the verse)? I would really like to work on profiles, but I still have to finish my work on another verse.
I could possibly help since I'll be playing it on release.
 
This is technically not Megami Tensei, but would anyone be interested in potentially scaling Metaphor: ReFantazio (assuming it doesn't have some weird cosmological tie to MegaTen that makes it part of the verse)? I would really like to work on profiles, but I still have to finish my work on another verse.
Yeah.
 
I'm playing though the demo, I'm not 100% sure it's not connected to Megami Tensei, since the demo seems to be teasing it quite a bit so far, but we'll have to wait and see for the final release before drawing conclusions
 
This is technically not Megami Tensei, but would anyone be interested in potentially scaling Metaphor: ReFantazio (assuming it doesn't have some weird cosmological tie to MegaTen that makes it part of the verse)? I would really like to work on profiles, but I still have to finish my work on another verse.

could bring any future discussion to this thread if theres anything interesting to discuss
 
MegaTen humans can simply put, fight gods they have no business fighting. We shouldn’t use the point of “they lost to humanity.” Especially is the God in question isn’t tier 0. Let’s not forget PT at the time were vastly stronger then when they stole Yaldabaoth’s role of administrator. Effectively giving them the power of the masses. That’s how Sataneal was summoned in the first place, Sataneal is of the same ilk as Yaldabaoth, an administrator.
btw, could you elaborate on this? I remember the scene but I don't remember that being my takeaway from the scene.
Where is it stated that they stole the role of administrator? Or how does one reach that conclusion?
 
btw, could you elaborate on this? I remember the scene but I don't remember that being my takeaway from the scene.
Where is it stated that they stole the role of administrator? Or how does one reach that conclusion?
Yaldabaoth was an administrator, which gave him an amp from the masses. By the time of Sataneal joker stole the masses’ thoughts and wishes and used them for himself, which gave him the amp to summon an administrator himself, but one based on freedom. This is elaborated in P5R when Levanza discussed with PT about Maruki’s ascent to said role. And even then it was because PT gave it to him.
 
Its probably a retcon or something. The angels Observing their own YHVH into existence is a pretty notable thing in SMT 2's backstory, since it was this false YHVH that breathed life into Aleph and the other artificial messiahs in the first place, except for Zayin who had the real YHVH put Satan's soul inside him. Fake YHVH isn't just a guy who appears during the archangel boss fight like I thought at first.
 

This interview is worth attention.
Sayaka Ohara, the VA of Mem Aleph, mentioned the Great Will.
I asked a guy who knows Japanese to translate the paragraph, and the translation that came out is this:

Although she presents [herself] as the final boss, rathen than being an absolute evil, I was extremely conscious she was a character that carried an unfathomable presence as a “great will”, a life form/living being antithetical to humans.
 

This interview is worth attention.
Sayaka Ohara, the VA of Mem Aleph, mentioned the Great Will.
I asked a guy who knows Japanese to translate the paragraph, and the translation that came out is this:

Although she presents [herself] as the final boss, rathen than being an absolute evil, I was extremely conscious she was a character that carried an unfathomable presence as a “great will”, a life form/living being antithetical to humans.
It says a great will. Not the great will.
 
A voice actor has no power over the script though
But a Voice Actor can know about script details and sometimes, know more than the writer. In Digimon for example, they were actually the earliest source for lore because the scriptwriter had to tell them stuff beforehand, like what is the truth about the story or lore such as the connection between humans and Digimon that fans would find out for the first time in 2018 because they ignored when the voice actors first told it. And there was even a case in which a voice actor had to remind the scriptwriter about how the character really was because the scriptwriter forgot, but the voice actor didn't.

I wouldn't say voice actors has some absolute say over a work or anything like that, but it's not uncommon, especially in Japanese materials, for the voice actors to receive back settings to better understand how to do their work, so if they are actually saying something that was told to them, I think it can be a fair source of information.
 
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