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It’s just for the sake of story. Nothing worth tiering.
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Megami Tensei General Discussion Thread
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Story content leads to feats in all kinds of media.
Shaking a realm that's apparently not even physical sounds like some kind of hax, even if it might not be quantifiable as a feat.
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Okay.
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I do apologize if I exasperate(d) you.
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Nope, I just don’t have any desire to talk about the aura gate beyond this, so you’re free to do what you want.
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Fair enough. I'm sure you know plenty about it, & what I've gone over for it might be redundant anyway.
Best wishes!
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It's so much fun. Shame I went down the Law route. Apparently it's got the least extra content.
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Getting to finally play SMTVV for real this time, has been an experience much better than I expected. One day if I play more I might be able to do a Top Favorites 
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Awesome, nice to see you Executor. I’m glad you enjoy it. Are you on PC?Getting to finally play SMTVV for real this time, has been an experience much better than I expected. One day if I play more I might be able to do a Top Favorites
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It depends on your budget, how you prefer to play, and which systems you own:
SMTV: Vengeance is a great entry point, and it will run well on nearly any PC released in the last five years or so. It's also available on PlayStation 4/5, Xbox, and Switch.
SMT IV is also solid and directly connects to its sequel, IV Apocalypse, if you feel like binging another game after. Both are 3DS exclusive, so you'd need to find physical copies (generally expensive), download the ROMs onto a homebrewed console, or emulate them with Citra or Lime.
SMT Nocturne is a fan favorite and considered a classic. It runs wonderfully on a PS2 emulator, assuming your PC is decent enough, and there's a official remaster which, despite having poor audio quality, should also run fine on most builds and includes the option to swap between each versions' content.
If you want to start from the beginning, you can easily find English-patched ROMs of SMT I's SNES, GBA, and (I believe) PSX releases. You'd have to emulate it, regardless, but even potato PC's can emulate those consoles just fine.
There are many other Megami Tensei series, too, like Digital Devil Saga, Devil Summoner, and Persona; if any of these catch your eye over mainline, feel free to ask about those as well. I can easily find ROMs and emulators for you, if you'd like. Just ask.
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Yeah i dont think im gonna be rocking V or Vengeance anytime soon (unless some form of income is obtained), but if IV/Apocalypse run on something like Citra, i would be down to give it a shot.
Thinking about also getting Persona at some point as well to go along with it. If all goes well, i can try P5 Royal alongside Vengeance to see how both perform.....granted im gonna have to account for computer space as well. I bet Vengeance is a big game
Thinking about also getting Persona at some point as well to go along with it. If all goes well, i can try P5 Royal alongside Vengeance to see how both perform.....granted im gonna have to account for computer space as well. I bet Vengeance is a big game
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Ah, thank you, thank you. I just wanted to ensure that both would be able to run on my computer without having them suffer/computer dying because of it. pretty sure i can also just lower graphical settings
Speaking of SMT
I did see Therewolf Media post some music for a SMT Protags BR (Hero, Aleph, Demi-Fiend, Nanashi, Flynn, and Nahobino) (i think i got em right), which of the five do you think would win?
Speaking of SMT
I did see Therewolf Media post some music for a SMT Protags BR (Hero, Aleph, Demi-Fiend, Nanashi, Flynn, and Nahobino) (i think i got em right), which of the five do you think would win?
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The minimum requirements represent the worst hardware one could own and still run the game at its lowest settings, so as long as your specs are better than those, you will more-than-likely be able to tun them "without your computer dying." Keep in mind neither have demos.
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I don’t care to answer this, but for someone who doesn’t believe Persona has any scaling connection to SMT, you probably won’t like it here.
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Eh, ive moved on from that a while ago, realized it was a fight i was ill equipped to take on so i just left it alone
Thats that
Ive grown to more appreciate the series after my.....incredibly bad take
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Why no scaling connection?
(Not that I mind, since I don't care for Persona protagonists other than Joker winning via summoning Arahabaki AKA That dude who reflects Physical to beat the JJK-or-whatever-dude who has a storm of knives special ability that social media memed upon for a while.)
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the meme involved makoto yuki, not joker.
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Milly is saying that persona does scale to SMT
Also, like, unless you don't know of certain games, once you dive deep enough it's kind of a bit unreasonable to think otherwise. You'd basically be ignoring the Devil Summoner series and SMT IF.....
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My bad. My Persona knowledge is lacking.
Perhaps shamefully, my first experience with Persona was actually over a decade ago via a fanmade, abridged-series like comic for...
(After Googling what game Yuu Narukami & Teddie are from, I found it was for Persona 4.)
Ah. Thank you very much!
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Eh, well at least you understand now.
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Mainline game rankings:
1. Strange Journey
2. Vengeance
3. Nocturne
4. Shin Megami Tensei 1
5. Shin Megami Tensei 2
6. Shin Megami Tensei 4
7. Apocalypse
8. Shin Megami Tensei If...
Nocturne and Vengeance can swap around. I would put the original release of SMT 5 below SMT 4 because after Vengeance it just seems mediocre to me now. I am also unable to play NINE unfortunately.
1. Strange Journey
2. Vengeance
3. Nocturne
4. Shin Megami Tensei 1
5. Shin Megami Tensei 2
6. Shin Megami Tensei 4
7. Apocalypse
8. Shin Megami Tensei If...
Nocturne and Vengeance can swap around. I would put the original release of SMT 5 below SMT 4 because after Vengeance it just seems mediocre to me now. I am also unable to play NINE unfortunately.
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RIGHT?
like vengeance is such an amazing improvement. I have no idea if the original release is good in the first place considering how massive of an improvement this was.
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Switch, just enjoying my time while trying to get everything done before going into the main story quests... Just what I love to do in RPGs
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Also, this should have already completely debunked the idea that the great will and YHVH are separate beings, yet I have no idea why people on reddit STILL want to pretend it's not the case.
To them, primal satan from now is send by the axiom (the great will to them), and that's why he is stronger than matter lucifer, who is stronger than yhvh (again, who to them, is the same as the 4A one)
Instead of taking the easy route, and just realizing they were wrong, and easily come to the conclusion that lucifer only transcended a manifestation head, and is still below primal satan and the great will.
ALSO, this game makes me doubt it was a manifestation head and not some different ruler altogether. We know there have been other rulers, so it could have been some other nahobino not mentioned by name.
To them, primal satan from now is send by the axiom (the great will to them), and that's why he is stronger than matter lucifer, who is stronger than yhvh (again, who to them, is the same as the 4A one)
Instead of taking the easy route, and just realizing they were wrong, and easily come to the conclusion that lucifer only transcended a manifestation head, and is still below primal satan and the great will.
ALSO, this game makes me doubt it was a manifestation head and not some different ruler altogether. We know there have been other rulers, so it could have been some other nahobino not mentioned by name.
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Please spoiler-tag spoilers.
What Reddit says or believes ultimately has no impact or consequence on our scaling. If someone wants to believe what they read in a Reddit post or a comment, that's their right– and their loss, if the evidence behind their beliefs is flimsy or misinterpreted.
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Glad to hear it. How do you rate the game so far?
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I don't give notes on games I play, but I can say I'm having fun with basically everything.
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Which doesn't even make sense, because if SMT IV A YHVH is dead, Primal satan should be dead as well
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Probably not much lore from this, but hey! The models look nice.
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Wasn't some old lore about the Demon World also exclusive to very old board games? Could be nice if a new one used that again...
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If they made cards that make it clear the Great Will and Axiom are separate, the casual fanbase would have a meltdown.
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They did.
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"iT's nOt CaNoN1!1!!"
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Yo, SMTVV law route final boss is EASILY top 5 in terms of design and theme. We simply put are not getting a better chaos rep than that. Overall the game was peak even though I have yet to beat Demi-fiend and Satan
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I'd like to see more pre-apocalyptic games, or at least ones which explore the initial fallout of a demon invasion. Devil Survivor is one of my favorite MegaTen games because of how it explores an imminent Demon invasion.
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Yeah I just liked how SMT 1 was structured. At first the world seems normal, then political tensions arise, a few demons start being summoned and eventually everything goes to hell.
Even in the post-apocalyptic demonic world, it gets worse when big players start getting involved like Aniel and Echidna, and then you start seeing major religious deities such as the Four Heavenly Kings and Vishnu. The biblical flood happens again and the Archangel Michael himself throws down against Lord Asura in a climatic battle with the last remnants of humanity split between Order and Chaos.
I love the transition from minor spirits and creatures from myths and folk tales to more and more renowned and worshipped/demonised religious figures.
Having a seemingly ordinary world with a supernatural underbelly gradually evolve into a mythological apocalypse scratches an itch of mine.
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