Mechagodzilla vs. Makoto Yuki

[Jinsye]

One big robot lizard fights an emo looking blue boy

Speed is =

Late-Game Makoto and Mechagoji w/ Uriel's Powers

Who wins?

Mechagodzilla (Monster Strike): 0

Makoto Yuki: 0

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

This seems interesting.

Can Makoto survive Soul Destruction?

 

[Jinsye]

"Resistance to Soul Manipulation"

possibly

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Ok can also survive Absolute Zero temperatures?

 

[ZeedKZ]

He doesn't have resistance to absolute zero

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Ok then, Kiryu can use his durability negation AZ attack and kill Makoto

 

[Jinsye]

He has absorb and reflect Ice

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I see, which could be Makoto's strategy, what could he use to end this fight?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Thought-based instant death/light hax.

 

[Eganergo]

Armageddon.

 

[Ryuga21]

@Apex

Just a question man, Kiryu's soul attack comes from this Uriel? because... her soul manipulation comes from something that isn't her own power and this profile is just her anime version, Godzilla is from the game.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

The power cames from game Uriel

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Anyways, voting Makoto via Armageddon, or Mudo/Hama.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Anyways, voting Makoto via Armageddon, or Mudo/Hama.

Can you explain what it does?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Armageddon is Makoto's strongest attack. Considering this is Late-Game Makoto he is fairly high on the scaling chain.

Mudo is instant death. Hama is light based instant death.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Light based attacks can't kill Kiryu though

Also how Armageddon works? is a na energy attack?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

It's holy light, but regardless, why can it not?

It's magic AOE.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Kiryu can control holy light and cannot be affected by it.

Plus Kiryu has A.T fields to protect himself from any attack. He could also use Statistics Reduction to reduce Makoto's AP.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Alright.

Reducing Makoto's AP doesn't mean much when he can raise it via multiple means, and reduce Kiryu's attack, defense, evasion & accuracy all at once. What's Kiryuu's scaling chain? Makoto is one of the strongest in his chain, and even if he has shields, Makoto can use Megidolaon and bypass it.

 

[Solacis]

Armageddon isn't Holy. It's pure energy that bypasses resistances.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I said Hama was holy, not Armageddon. And when was it an Almighty Attack?

 

[Solacis]

Armageddon has always been Almighty. And yeah, I misread.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Huh, okay. Well, voting Makoto via Armageddon.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Bump.

 

[Species_2512]

What's Makoto's scaling chain?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

It's unfinished, but he's the second strongest in a scaling chain that consists of 3 straight games.

 

[Solacis]

^^^ That's only for Universe Arcana Makoto. Late/End-Game Makoto is equal to SEES.

 

[DarkGrath]

Yeah, for Late-Game (which is 4-A) he scales via being comparable to the Late-Game Phantom Thieves, such as Ren Amamiya. The 4-A feat that they scale from is relatively generic, though I don't think it's baseline. And they scale via practically stomping the character who performed it.

EDIT: Wait, hang on. Mechagodzilla doesn't have any 4-A keys, but he does have a Low 2-C key. Was this meant to be End-Game Makoto?

EDIT 2: Realised I'm an idiot. Late-Game Makoto and End-Game Makoto are the same key, currently. Let me pop up the current scaling chain for him.

 

[DarkGrath]

On a scaling chain where:

> = Win

>> = Decisive win

>>> = Stomp

>>>> = One-Shot

Late/End-Game Makoto > Elizabeth (Persona 3) > Lavenza > Caroline/Justine >> End-Game PTs (Pre-Grail) = I believe above baseline?

So, to oversimplify; able to extremely casually one-shot above baseline Low 2-C's. If I've got my facts straight.

 

[DarkGrath]

This seems interesting.

Can Makoto survive Soul Destruction?

For clarification on this, seemingly yes. He survived an entire month without his soul, though it's not fully explained how.

 

[Solacis]

Cognition basically lets you do anything with enough willpower. I think we can safely assume that Makoto just willed himself to survive the month.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Yeah, because only on the last day did people begin mentioning his "sickness".

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Alright.
Reducing Makoto's AP doesn't mean much when he can raise it via multiple means, and reduce Kiryu's attack, defense, evasion & accuracy all at once. What's Kiryuu's scaling chain? Makoto is one of the strongest in his chain, and even if he has shields, Makoto can use Megidolaon and bypass it.

Kiryu scaling chain is:

> = Win

>> = Decisive win

>>> = Stomp

>>>> = One-Shot

Kiryu > Uriel > Metatron > > Gabriel > Michael > > Eschatology >>> Idea >>> Mu = baseline

So he can one-shot characters above baseline Low 2-C.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Kiryu's ap seems to be higher. Regardless, Makoto can still reduce his AP, defense, and evasion all at once, and raise his, so yeah I'm still voting Makoto.

 

[DarkGrath]

Would Makoto's Soul Manip one-shot him regardless though? Gleaming through Mechagodzilla's profile, he doesn't seem to resist it.

 

[Jinsye]

Well uh

Robot

 

[DarkGrath]

Ah, right. Does someone pilot it though? I can't quite tell from the images and summary.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

No idea, but it's not like AP/Dura/Speed advantage is a long-lasting wincon against SMT / Persona characters.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Ah, right. Does someone pilot it though? I can't quite tell from the images and summary.

Kiryu Is either Automatic mode or piloted by Asuka from Evangelion.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Hold on, does Kiryu have anything that isn't conventional weaponry?