Anime Jesus Fight: Makoto Yuki vs. Kirito

[Jinsye]

I just made a Makoto fight but this is too good to pass up.

Both are 4-A, speed is equalized.

Who wins?

Makoto Yuki: 0

Kirito: 0

 

[DarkGrath]

did someone see DMUA's comment

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Well, we know straight up Freeze GG isn't gonna work.

 

[Solacis]

Speaking of DMUA quotes...

Kirito gets yeeted by any good 4-A: Part infinity

 

[DarkGrath]

Jokes aside, what are the most reliable win-cons for both of them?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Mudo/Hama for Makoto, I can say.

 

[DarkGrath]

Well, that's simple enough. What else, for Makoto and Kirito? And what's the AP comparison?

I remember Makoto gets 4-A via scaling to the PT's, who very casually stomped someone who created a dimension filled with stars. I don't know if that's a baseline feat or beyond baseline; off the top of my head.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I believe a dimension filled with stars on it's own is above baseline iirc, but if not, then stomping someone who did is above baseline.

 

[Jinsye]

Makoto's AP is 140 petaFOE and Kirito is uh

looks

9 petaFOE

Okay nevermind this match is bust

 

[Jinsye]

Actually, Makoto doesn't resist transmutation which Kirito has

so i guess this match isn't bust.

 

[Solacis]

Holy shit we have numbers for Persona AP

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

It's above baseline, yes?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Actually, Makoto doesn't resist transmutation which Kirito has
so i guess this match isn't bust.

How fast is it?

 

[Planck69]

I believe a dimension filled with stars on it's own is above baseline iirc, but if not, then stomping someone who did is above baseline.

A pocket dimension with a starry back-drop is 140 Petafoe IIRC. Kirito scales to 313 Petafoe at full power (I think, the calc linked on his profile is a bit of a mess).

 

[DarkGrath]

Well, the actual 140 petafoe feat was done by Shadow Okumura, who the PT's stomped, who Makoto is comparable to. So Makoto would actually be pretty decently above 140 petafoe.

Also, is Kirito's AP 313 petafoe, or 9 petafoe? Two conflicting messages here.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

4-A's baseline according to the Attack Potency page is 20 TeraFoe.

 

[Solacis]

@Dark Difference between high and low ends.

 

[DarkGrath]

Ahh, right. And which one was accepted?

also, my name is Darku-chan, not Dark

 

[DMUA]

 

[Jinsye]

How fast is it?

Word based I believe

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Thoughts are faster, so Makoto Mudo's him.

 

[Thatsafloridathing]

I'll vote for Makoto, Mudo is thought-based.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Isn't it a stomp if he can't do anything?

 

[Thatsafloridathing]

If Kirito has a wincon, it isn't a stomp.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

But if he can't get it off in time or at all, then it's a stomp.

 

[Jinsye]

Eh, who draws first matches aren't stomps iirc

• cough cough Joker*

But like if two dudes have a gun and the other just shoots it faster it's not a stomp

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Alright, Makoto FRA. 2-0-0?

 

[DMUA]

Actually transmutation requires Kirito to run up and stab them with his sword

Then they slowly turn into a tree as he monologues about what he just did

 

[Jinsye]

still a wincon by all technicalities

Either that or that law manip is also a wincon by all technicalities

 

[DarkGrath]

Hm. I think I'll go for Anime Jesus FRA.

wait...

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Can you explain the Law Manip? Because Megidolaon might be able to bypass it.

 

[DMUA]

Incarnation, which bends laws and stuff through willpower to do stuff

Pretty sure you could still just obliterate

Also, name a circumstance where Kirito has a long enough lifespan to actually move and attack with said transmutation

 

[Ionliosite]

Yeah, Makoto stomps, Kirito's so-called wincon simply can't possibly happen on this escenario, and barely even uses that anyways.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Stomp, gotta find someone else. Anyone know any fairly haxxed 4-A's?

 

[HST_Master]

I've got an idea but I dunno how well it'll go.