Mcu what if…? Crt rough draft

[Qawsedf234]

The storm calcs are legitimately High 6-B, its just that there wasn't any evidence that Thor scales to the full power of the storms.

 

[Dalesean027]

The storm calcs are legitimately High 6-B, its just that there wasn't any evidence that Thor scales to the full power of the storms.

Should he not still get that listed on his profile though?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Should he not still get that listed on his profile though?

Yeah they would be listed still. Its just that scaling it to his base AP is questionable at the moment.

 

[Dalesean027]

Yeah they would be listed still. Its just that scaling it to his base AP is questionable at the moment.

Okay good and that's fair also are we still upscaling the characters to 6-C

Would Thor look like this for example 6-C(blah blah)and high 6-B with storms(calc's linked or whatever)

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Okay good and that's fair also are we still upscaling the characters to 6-C

Would Thor look like this for example 6-C(blah blah)and high 6-B with storms(calc's linked or whatever)

Probably

 

[Dalesean027]

Probably

Alright cool I'm down with that

 

[Hellbeast]

Here's my view on timeline scaling

• The Infinity Stones cross scaling is fine imo, since they're one of the big timeline split reasons and are treated as the same across any universe barring minor differences
• I agree with Main TL -> Alt TL scaling, but not for the reverse

So as an example

• I think using Infinity Ultron to justify a 3-A to Low 2-C Main TL IG's is understandable

Low 2-C Thanos is cinema

• I'm against stuff like scaling Vision to 6-C or scaling Main TL CM to What If CM's showings like the core smash

Agreed; not sure if that means we can scale Marvel to her canon counterpart or if we should just stick to the objective feats (the latter, imo, is better)

 

[Qawsedf234]

I say use the objective feats, but if they require a tier for a needed key on a profile, like Ultron or Doctor Strange Supreme, back scaling is fine.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

The High 6-B calcs were rejected due to canon numbers or conflicting information

Also High 6-B were outliers iirc

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Also what are the High 6-B storms?

 

[Dalesean027]

Agreed; not sure if that means we can scale Marvel to her canon counterpart or if we should just stick to the objective feats (the latter, imo, is better)

Vision wouldn't be scaled to 6-C anyways and tbh What If captain marvel has some pretty good feats some better and some right in the range of her main counterpart but all worth keeping in in terms of MCU calc's

 

[Qawsedf234]

Also what are the High 6-B storms?

I think its his storm that covered Wakanda

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I think its his storm that covered Wakanda

What

Wasn't that Low 7-B to 7-B

 

[Qawsedf234]

Wasn't that Low 7-B to 7-B

I was thinking of the older methods. They were all like 7-B to 6-C

 

[Revan_Laha]

What If Cap Marvel and Main Timeline Captain Marvel are the same. They should scale to each other

 

[Revan_Laha]

Captain Marvel being Low 6-B with that core smash feat makes sense

 

[Hellbeast]

I'd also note Supreme Leader Ultron claims he can "destroy galaxies with a thought" which should indicate up to Galactic powers

 

[chosen]

I'd also note Supreme Leader Ultron claims he can "destroy galaxies with a thought" which should indicate up to Galactic powers

Ultron will be 4d though so eh

 

[Hellbeast]

Wait will he?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Low 2-C. It's in the sandbox

 

[Hellbeast]

Low 2-C. It's in the sandbox

Based off the universe shattering punches right?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Based off the universe shattering punches right?

That, and him scaling above the Watcher being able to fix the timeline

 

[chosen]

Wait will he?

Yeah via making universes into messy soup via physical attacks consistent with watcher being able to fix timeline collapsing

 

[Hellbeast]

That, and him scaling above the Watcher being able to fix the timeline

I think the Retcons could just be Space Time Manipulation but Watcher is decent

 

[chosen]

I think the Retcons could just be Space Time Manipulation but Watcher is decent

I mean would scale to physical strength as he just punches so his physical ap should scale

 

[Hellbeast]

I mean would scale to physical strength as he just punches so his physical ap should scale

Only if it destroys; if it just shifts time it would be unquantifiable

 

[chosen]

Only if it destroys; if it just shifts time it would be unquantifiable

WoG states that he turned them into one messy soup

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I was told it was Low 2-C since he doing it with his bare fists

 

[Revan_Laha]

We have that "Universe soup" statement too

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Can Captain Marvel's feat of cracking Ultron's armour be added as a supporting feat? Pretty sure that's 6-C coz vibranium body.

 

[chosen]

Can Captain Marvel's feat of cracking Ultron's armour be added as a supporting feat? Pretty sure that's 6-C coz vibranium body.

Ultron vibranium armour is you know
Able to tank planetary attacks

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Nvm then

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

• WM 1 = IM 2 but it scrapped with IM 4, Repulsor = IM 4/6 Repulsor
• WM 2/Iron Patriot scales to Extremis guys
• WM 3/Civil War scales above IP and possibly to IM 44/Civil War via comparable showings vs Giant Man
• WM 4 is stated to be in line with Tony’s best suits that aren’t Nanotechnology, restrained Thanos’ good arm by itself, survived Space Stone squish, tanked Cull etc so it scales to HB 2/IM 49
• WM 5/Cosmic Iron Patriot > WM 6/EG suit > WM 4

Here's Anonymous' scaling for War Machine btw.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Can Captain Marvel's feat of cracking Ultron's armour be added as a supporting feat? Pretty sure that's 6-C coz vibranium body.

Ultron is Low 2-C

It's a clear cut outlier

 

[Qawsedf234]

Ultron is Low 2-C

Only when tapping into the stones.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

So he is 6-C still unassisted? Or not?

 

[sanicspood]

Here’s some new hax thanos with the infinity guantlet could get

Life and death hax with the soul stone

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/829767100724805702/882733201410387998/image0.jpg

Dimensional travel and wormhole creation with the space stone

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/829767100724805702/882734637888204810/image0.jpg

Telepathy, telekinesis, gaining high intellect, dream hax and mind control on a universal scale with the mind stone

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/829767100724805702/882739037989916692/image0.jpg

Here’s the source for all of this https://www.sideshow.com/blog/marvels-infinity-stones-explained

what y’all think?

 

[DrakerX]

Finally some good hax for the Soul Stone. This means that the Snap should be Life Manipulation combined with Deconstruction.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Time Stone. Reality Stone, Power Stone

From the same source

 

[Qawsedf234]

So he is 6-C still unassisted

Yeah. 8ts just that he can freely tap into the stones unlike other users.