[MCU] Some AP Updates

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[Cardex01]

Casket of Ancient Winters
Currently, the Casket of Ancient Winters scales from this common calc at High 6-B+, however that's only for freezing the atmosphere, while freezing the surface/crust is High 6-A and the entire planet (to the core) is Low 5-B. The Casket has the following statements about its power:

• Has the power to send an entire world/planet into an apocalyptic ice age
• Has the power to cause instant and never-ending winters, and could be used to take over the Nine Realms
  
• According to the script, it would have laid waste to all the Nine Realms. And the novelization states that it would have been used to turn all the realms into frozen ice lands, and had to be locked for the safety of all Nine Realms
  
• And a variant of Loki threatened to use it to reduce Earth to ash and ice

The Nine Realms includes planets like Earth, but also Muspelheim (a Dyson sphere around a star) and Nidavellir (a neutron star). Freezing a star can range from High 6-A to 5-A+ and up to Low 4-C. And well, if the Casket can freeze a star even minimally, I guess it should have enough range and cold to freeze to the planet's core. Regardless, I don't know which would be the best end to choose, but I think it should definitely be higher than the current one it scales

I agree with Qawsedf, the L5-B looks better here.

L&T Characters
From past threads, we considered than the two Celestials in Omnipotence City shouldn't be comparable to the highest feats performed by those from Eternals (like creating stars and being galaxy-sized), which is fine since the two are featless and we don't know how powerful they are. But at the very least the two Celestials should be High 5-A at bare minimum since that's how they're born, if so I think it would be fair to upscale the L&T characters from their current 5-B+ tier to High 5-A

I completely agree, L&T needed an upgrade.

Odin's Creation
Currently, Odin creating constellations is tiered as 4-B, which is incorrect since such feats are either 4-C (if the stars were created/moved one by one) or 4-A (if all the stars were created at the same time). Therefore, his Creation tier should be updated accordingly to either end

Agreeing with Qawsedf again, the idea that this is H4-C makes more sense, but 4-A wouldn't be a problem for me either.

Some Speed Stuff
I think the speed of Dormammu and Alioth should be changed from Subsonic to Unknown, since it doesn't makes any sense that characters we've never seen in their full might on screen and who can affect/consume infinite-sized universes , with the former essentially having a multiverse as his body and the latter having "Stated to have instantly devoured entire branched realities" as a justification for his current Subsonic speed. Also, it seems that when Alioth was upgraded from "At least 2-A, possibly Low 1-C" to just Low 1-C, his durability was forgotten to be updated as well, so it should be changed to just Low 1-C too

That's quite clear, I agree.

Extra: Vibration Manipulation (Can vibrate her weapons and cause a whole mountain to rumble) for Hela, also her Class M LS should have an "at least" before since she upscales from Thor who already has that

This is also very clear.

 

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[BreezeHM]

I agree with Qawsedf's points. Though since you need 1 more vote from an evaluating staff, I'll tag my handy slaves

@Vietthai96 @TheGreatJedi13

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

I'm in agreement with Qawsedf's point
and yeah high 6-A would be more consistent

 

[Ozcantabak]

This can finally be applied

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Okay so, the Casket, depowered Hela, and Awakened Thor should scale to 2.8294 Exatons, which means Thanos' sword, Wanda, and the like should scale to 475% that (13.43965 Exatons). Yes?

 

[Ozcantabak]

Okay so, the Casket, depowered Hela, and Awakened Thor should scale to 2.8294 Exatons, which means Thanos' sword, Wanda, and the like should scale to 475% that (13.43965 Exatons). Yes?

Yes but swords dura would scale tothat not its ap.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Yes but swords dura would scale tothat not its ap.

Right.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Asked for the Casket profile to be opened, I suppose I'll start with editing profiles.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

The Celestial thing probably needs a recalc with omni-directional KE anyway, the current one doesn't seem to account for not all the debris moving at the same speed.