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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread
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Coolboy6
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Excellence616
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By breaking the fourth wall?
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I was mainly joking but yes, She-Hulk was able to break into the "real world" and easily defeat humans who see her along with the entire MCU Multiverse as fiction, but those powers were a error that has already been fixed by K.E.V.I.N. Basically She-Hulk was the second most powerful character in the entire MCU for a few moments
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This unironically is worth adding to her profile
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How would we label the key? I’d maybe go with Episode 9 instead of something like Pre-Fix since she was only that strong in the final episode
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We can wait for She-Hulk to appear in another show or movie that deserves to give her a new key and then make a key for her self from her show with the Low 1-C powers. The only way to stop the spite matches against her is making her the most powerful being in the verse
Technically she always had those powers until they were fixed by K.E.V.I.N, she just used her Breaking the Fourth Wall at "full power" at the end because she thought the plot of her own show didn't make any sense
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That's likely never going to happen, even then we won't probably even see K.E.V.I.N. again. Even if she somehow was upraded to L1C, they're still going to find a way to make spite matches out of her if possible
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Actually it'd be pretty hard to make spite matches against her Low 1-C key if that ends up getting accepted since her P&A section is so basic compared to most other characters in that tier that they'd automatically be stomps
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I don't think She-Hulk should have a specific key for the moment she broke into the real world, instead something like "At least 9-A, Low 1-C via Breaking the Fourth Wall" imo. And that would also give her hax like HDM and HDE since she literally broke inside a 5D world and defeated 5D humans
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Some weird hax for She-Hulk: Time Stop and Retrocognition? (Time can stop while she is talking to the audience, showing a "previously on" of a guy). And I don't know what these would be: can talk to the audience without the people around her noticing, and while she is talking to the audience the world around her is seemingly ignored. And I think She-Hulk's P&A should be split between her normal powers and her 4th Wall powers
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So what would be Kang's stamina? I think this is the last thing missing for his profile (can't remember if there is a missing calc)
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But 616 She Hulk and Deadpool has same powers but still lower than 1-A?
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energy manipulation for gorr stormbreaker used her force energy to unlock eternity can you consider it under my own hood?
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The Destroyer stuff was rejected in a separate CRT
I think that just falls under Portal Creation (which Stormbreaker already has)?
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yes, but is it possible to reflect the stormbreaker's energy without thorforce? thanos failed to do so he literally forced the ax to work
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What? No reflecting occurred
...there's no such thing as the Thorforce in the MCU
Nothing suggests so. Just because he didn't summon the Bifrost doesn't mean he failed to do it. All he needed Stormbreaker for is to kill Thor. Gorr needed the Bifrost that Stormbreaker can summon
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Marvel Studios
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So it was HER fault (I think)...
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odinforce sounds better anyway
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I’m pretty sure she is supposed to be responsible for the overworked vfx artiest
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Bruce stated that Thanos having the Power and Space Stone makes him the strongest creature in the whole universe, can we use that to scale Thanos above Surtur since he witnessed the strength of the latter? Or would it cause scaling issues?
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I don't think this would change Thanos' AP
It seems more like having the P&A of two Infinity Stones on top of his own abilities makes Thanos the most powerful being in the universe.
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Bruce didn't say the most powerful, but the strongest, which is more related to physicals rather than abilities
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"strongest" and "most powerful" are more or less interchangeable. Also, only the Power Stone amps stats and that's only when it's glowing and activated. Thanos wasn't amped by it
IF we do scale 2-Stone Thanos above Surtur, Mark 50 Iron Man would downscale and Scarlet Witch would scale. Then no-stone Thanos scales because he overpowered Mark 85, which is accepted as superior to Mark 50, and endured numerous attacks from an utterly bloodlusted Scarlet Witch
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Bruce doesn't know that though, the most he knows about the Infinity Stones is when Thor stated that they are the greatest power in the universe unparalleled in its destructive capabilities.
Regarding the scale, I think it would be almost the same, just that Thanos instead of considerably upscale from Post-Awakening Thor would upscale from Surtur
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So having two of them would make anyone the most powerful being in the universe. Especially someone who utterly curbstomped and KOed the Hulk all through his own abilities
I don't know about scaling Thanos above someone who one-shot killed Hela, who scales above Post-Awakening Thor. Even Hulk somewhat downscales from Thanos, when that same Hulk could hardly do shit against Surtur and even staggering was partly because Surtur was shocked by the impact
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Not necessarily, again the statement is Bruce saying that Thanos having the Power and the Space Stone make him the strongest creature in the whole universe, which we know isn't true since there are far stronger beings (Arishem, Celestials, Zeus, Egyptian Gods, etc), but that would put Thanos above the beings Bruce is aware of, which includes Surtur
Thanos also easily defeated Post-Awakening Thor, the only reason he didn't kill him was to use him to obtain the Space Stone from Loki. Further evidence of that is when Thanos easily defeated Thor in Endgame, who is stated to be stronger than ever, along with Mark 85 Iron Man and Captain America at the same time
Hulk doesn't even scale to Post-Awakening Thor, and Ebony Maw stated that Thanos was just having fun by fighting Hulk, who he easily defeated without even using the Power Stone
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I'm confused. So are you trying to get base Thanos or Thanos with two Stones to scale above Surtur?
Loki told Thanos to kill away Thor after he was told to make a decision between the Tesseract or Thor. But alright
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Thanos with two stones. Although Mark 50 Iron Man downscales from a Thanos with four stones by withstanding attacks and making him bleed, the Mark 85 upscales from the Mark 50, and Thanos without stones upscales from Mark 85 and Thor,
That was after Thanos defeated Thor offscreen, and during the torture Thanos was using the Power Stone to slowly kill Thor until Loke gave the Tesseract
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It's reasons like this I was more inclined to believe that obtaining two of the universe's most powerful objects that have all sorts of potent hax that Thanos had access to alongside his own already-massively-powerful abilities made Bruce consider him the strongest being in the universe
That's another possibility. But it feels less likely imo. Idk
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Hey guys, what is your review on marvel What If?
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