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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread

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SpiderMan is pretty strong to have fought the strongest villains in the multiverse
"Strongest villains that ever fought a Spider Man"
 
Sorry I'm not too deep into the powerscaling of the mcu, I just got a question

Is Peter scaling to Cull Obsidian an outlier?
 
But ock broke nano armor so scaling valid

I can show you a million feats of that scaling and you’d still say outlier
Spider Man is made to be a street tier character so any feats above his level even if consistent is considered outlier.. Just imagine Spiderman lifting/destroying a planet multiple times, we won't make him planetary (unless amped) because he was never created to be that powerful.
 
Spider Man is made to be a street tier character so any feats above his level even if consistent is considered outlier.. Just imagine Spiderman lifting/destroying a planet multiple times, we won't make him planetary (unless amped) because he was never created to be that powerful.
He’s not if you honestly believe he’s made street tier then you don’t even watch the films

And if it’s consistent it’s not an outlier I think you need to learn what an outlier is
 
Outlier is specifically when a feat is far above what he’s consistently portrayed as. If he truly is consistently depicted as a planet buster, then it would be consistent, not an outlier. But whether or not VSBW would accept Spider-Man being that high is another situation entirely.
 
Doesn't Blonsky get his bones all broken into pieces by Hulk's attacks? It doesn't seem like a way to scale the Super Soldiers that high, and also we only use comics if they don't contradict the movie and Blonsky being anywhere near Bruce's level is not supported by the story at all
Also where is this last scan from? Is it even MCU Canon?
 
Doesn't Blonsky get his bones all broken into pieces by Hulk's attacks? It doesn't seem like a way to scale the Super Soldiers that high, and also we only use comics if they don't contradict the movie and Blonsky being anywhere near Bruce's level is not supported by the story at all
Also where is this last scan from? Is it even MCU Canon?
And nobody said he is equal to hulk lol and it does seem like it a good way as last time I checked staggering a charging hulk with a luck surviving an attack that stopped hulk in his tracks and taking a hit from zombie hulk is far higher then street tier

Also your wrong on the comics we use comics when ever they have the official canon stamp meaning it’s approved as canon not a single comic is ever identical to the films
 
It makes no sense for Super Soldiers to scale anywhere near Hulk. Even the first Avengers movie shows this, with Cap being fodder to Loki who gets no diff by Iron Man, who would've been destroyed by Thor and got amped by 4x by one of his casual held-back attacks. Heck, he even gets like 1000 times more powerful and they still think Hulk is the most powerful and have to make a special suit to fight him
Yeah, no. They don't downscale at all. Super Soldiers aren't remotely close to the Hulk
 
Wouldn't Peter scaling to Cull contraditct Iron Man's scaling?
Iron man was getting ragdolled by Cull, Peter can casually stop attacks from Cull, Cap is superior to Spider-Man and a weaker Iron man can handle both Bucky and Cap for a while (likely superior to them individually). This means Civil War Tony >> Infinity War Tony
 
Wouldn't Peter scaling to Cull contraditct Iron Man's scaling?
Iron man was getting ragdolled by Cull, Peter can casually stop attacks from Cull, Cap is superior to Spider-Man and a weaker Iron man can handle both Bucky and Cap for a while (likely superior to them individually). This means Civil War Tony >> Infinity War Tony
Except, IW Tony was able to go toe to toe with Thanos
 
Except he didn’t as even a casual grab from Thanos could crush his armor
Still downscales as he harmed Thanos more than once and for the fact he even lasted that long against him. Even then this armor is not even that different from his EG armor that giving Thanos hell
 
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