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If you do that it would have to be noted that his dura is with the power stone, right?Is it fine if I update the Hadron Enforcer and Ronan's dura to 5-C?
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If you do that it would have to be noted that his dura is with the power stone, right?Is it fine if I update the Hadron Enforcer and Ronan's dura to 5-C?
Yes, he already has two keysIf you do that it would have to be noted that his dura is with the power stone, right?
SureIs it fine if I update the Hadron Enforcer and Ronan's dura to 5-C?
When I watched the scene, It looked to me like Thanos used the power stone to break up the moon, and Thanos used the space stone by itself to pull the chunks off the moon onto titan.I missed this. Thanos uses both the Power and Space stone to preform the feat. They were working in conjunction with each other to pull the moon.
That was me. I don’t think so because the stone varies.And regarding Ronan's AP, should it be upgraded to 6-B? If I remember correctly someone shared some scans stating that Ronan with the Power Stone is more powerful than Thanos
Its power varies depending on the size, Ronan wouldn't be able to use that power on Thanos, and the Power Stone gives enhanced power to its userThat was me. I don’t think so because the stone varies.
We aren’t using those toy statements though.Its power varies depending on the size, Ronan wouldn't be able to use that power on Thanos, and the Power Stone gives enhanced strength to its user
So WoG isn’t cool for new info for a crt but everything else is?No, that’s not at all what Qawsef is saying.
Basically
1. It can't be a leading question just for the sake of battleboarding or to get a personally-motivating answer (It is)
2. It must only be related to clarification on stuff that already exists within the actual source material (It doesn't, since scaling is a one-way street due to the whole "Variants" thing)
3. It CANNOT, IN ANY GOOD CONSCIENCE, CONTRADICT THE SOURCE MATERIAL WHATSOEVER. (Which it does when you go scaling What If to the canon MCU)
GoW Stuff is fine because it uses WoG to clarify shit that already exists within the source material, guidebooks, artbooks and the games themselves and even then I'd argue we don't need the WoG because all of it is within the games themselves, but of course, 2018 wasn't exactly very kind to those revisions and thus we had to use WoG to shut them up. Which kinda didn't make things better for anyone.1. So I basically have to add unnecessary stuff to my question and not get a direct answer? But GoW stuff is fine?
Same exact dude, same exact power ups, same strength level. In the case of Captain Marvel and her core-busting feat however, that kind of doesn't work because everything post the Nexus event is royally screwed up as per what Qaws said.2. So power lvls weren’t a thing in what if? What dose the term “variants” have to do with there strength?
See my answer to point 2.3. What dose it contradict exactly?
The toy isn't the main evidence for 6-B Ronan, but these statements of him being the most powerful being in the universe and planning to destroy Thanos after doing it with Xandar, the toy only confirms that the Power Stone enhances the power of its userToy statements are the last thing I'd use to support any kind of rating, PERIOD.
And asking if variants are equal to there mainline counterparts isn’t clarifying stuff that already exist in the source material?GoW Stuff is fine because it uses WoG to clarify shit that already exists within the source material, guidebooks, artbooks and the games themselves and even then I'd argue we don't need the WoG because all of it is within the games themselves, but of course, 2018 wasn't exactly very kind to those revisions and thus we had to use WoG to shut them up. Which kinda didn't make things better for anyone.
So it pretty much depends on a verse-by-verse basis and the nature of the questions asked, and whether the answers to said questions are serious enough and not lore-contradicting to boot.
Same exact dude, same exact power ups, same strength level. In the case of Captain Marvel and her core-busting feat however, that kind of doesn't work because everything post the Nexus event is royally screwed up as per what Qaws said.
See my answer to point 2.
That’s, um, not an explanation for why Thanos got the stones 3 years earlier, or why Gamora is alive, how how something’s aren’t affected the ways they should be.“I mean that’s the point of the nexus events being out of control. First they deviate from the main timeline creating a nexus timeline then it starts to create infinte variations of said nexus timeline. While the main nexus event might have been say tony slept on the wrong side of the bed, there can be other nexus timelines branching off of that with there own variations and still have the same main nexus event.”
That's only part of the equation. Other part of the equation is keeping their past events the exact same to the letter as the canon source.And asking if variants are equal to there mainline counterparts isn’t clarifying stuff that already exist in the source material?
Problem is, a lot of shit that shouldn't have deviated, have deviated without creating a Nexus event in this timeline.And I said in response to that
“I mean that’s the point of the nexus events being out of control. First they deviate from the main timeline creating a nexus timeline then it starts to create infinte variations of said nexus timeline. While the main nexus event might have been say tony slept on the wrong side of the bed, there can be other nexus timelines branching off of that with there own variations and still have the same main nexus event.”
This can be applied to Ronan and Rocket I guess.Can I apply this?
Ya and as I said this probably a variant of the main nexus eventThat's only part of the equation. Other part of the equation is keeping their past events the exact same to the letter as the canon source.
Like, before Loki teleported himself to a desert his life played out the exact same way from 2011 Thor up until Avengers. That doesn't happen with the "Ultron Won" episode, lots of other minor details are radically cahnged. Like how Thanos got those stones way earlier than expected. Or who he sacrificed to obtain the Soul Stone given that neither Gamora nor Nebula were alive at the time.
Problem is, a lot of shit that shouldn't have deviated, have deviated without creating a Nexus event in this timeline.
Sure.What do you think about upgrading Ronan's AP to 6-B based on this?
As long as the sources are referenced properly and where they come from, yeah sure.What do you think about upgrading Ronan's AP to 6-B based on this?
Do we consider the Hammer TK attack Ronan used on the GotG, minus Rocket, as separate AP from his Power Stone Hammer attacks (Energy Beam and Touch the Planet)? If so, should a note be placed on Ronan's Profile to explain why it (TK attack) and the GotG don't scale to the Tier 6 value?Okay, I'm going to apply the accepted changes to Rocket and Ronan
I think its just the same ability Thanos used on the GotG that knocked them out. It's just a hax power rather than a AP power.Do we consider the Hammer TK attack Ronan used on the GotG, minus Rocket, as separate AP from his Power Stone Hammer attacks
They seem to be different. The Stone seems to only slightly amp Ronan's Hammer's TK AoE and Range.I think its just the same ability Thanos used on the GotG that knocked them out. It's just a hax power rather than a AP power.
They seem to be different. The Stone seems to only slightly amp Ronan's Hammer's TK AoE and Range.
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Whenever the changes are applied it can be closed. Assuming no one wants to continue the other arguments.If we settled everything, can this thread soon be closed?
I applied the changes to Ronan, are they fine?Whenever the changes are applied it can be closed. Assuming no one wants to continue the other arguments.
Imo, there's a visual difference between Thanos' Gauntlet PS shockwave, and Ronan's Hammer Shockwave/TK and when Ronan uses the PS to attack.Or maybe it’s because he regulated it’s power
Oh I thought he only shot out shockwaves or whatever. I guess he just used the hammers powerImo, there's a visual difference between Thanos' Gauntlet PS shockwave, and Ronan's Hammer Shockwave/TK and when Ronan uses the PS to attack.
I applied the changes to Ronan, are they fine?
You should add thisMoon level (While being empowered by the Power Stone, he was unfazed by Rocket's Hadron Enforcer, which was confirmed by a guidebook)
That's already on Rocket's profile and in the scan of the guidebookYou should add this
"...to be capable of blowing up a moon"
On Rocket's profile, on Ronan's Profile it just looks like an incomplete sentence.That's already on Rocket's profile and in the scan of the guidebook