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Who’s they? Also, while we all make these mistakes, just remember going forward to look more into these things.
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MCU: High 6-A/5-C Upgrades
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I missed this. Thanos uses both the Power and Space stone to preform the feat. They were working in conjunction with each other to pull the moon.
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Anyways to restate what I said before, I'm completely against the upgrades. They rely on out-of-context scenes, unreliable narrators, and bad scaling in my view. The only legit stuff I can get is the 5-C stuff, which while also inconsistent at least has the benefit of statements and a lack of clear anti-feats. But that wouldn't scale to anyone and the most that it would lead to is Power Stone users getting a 5-C durability rating or something.
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Would that apply to Thanos when he was injured with Stormbreaker? Since he used the power of the stones against it
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Didn’t the Russos state he was off guard and would’ve used more power on it if he knew how strong Stormbreaker was?
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No, because he wasn't being amped by the Power Stone.
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The most Ronan would get is 5-C durability.
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I agree to this at least.
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Maybe 5-C with Hammer as well. But that's as far as I'm willing to go.
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So, will Hulk get any upgrade?
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Hulk wouldn't have had any upgrade even if the entire CRT had been accepted, so no
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I Never “badgered” her, I DM’d her and she was chill about it.
Well if that’s true then that’s some BS. Would you mind linking me to this rules then
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Anyways, I agree with Qaw and KLOL arguments, but I'm mostly neutral though. I agree with 5-C Durability Ronan too.
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Badgered was a term I shouldn't have used, but it's against the rules to directly ask an author about power scaling statements solely for an upgrade. Which is what you were doing.
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How? Authors/creators are never just gonna answer a question exactly the way you want 100% of the time. Sometimes they might say the exact opposite of what you want or something entirely you didn’t expect. So basically if I ever want to use an actual WoG I have to dance around my actual question?
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Just don’t ask them about power scaling.
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Can I apply this?
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So then I have to wait for some random interviwer to come by and hope and pray they ask something similar that I want to know about?
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I mean, you can use what’s in the material itself.
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And that’s been going so well for this crt
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Look, sometimes upgrades just don’t go through.
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Sometimes they don’t and sometimes they do, and I don’t see why this one can’t use the new WoG I provided regardless of my intentions behind the question
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I mean, this is about our rules and the intention.
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yeah, people do that all the time, or is it suddenly a problem when it contradicts your point?
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My point is my intentions should be irrelevant when discussing WoG. I can’t influence an author’s thoughts on there own creation anymore then someone can bench press a car
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Personally I wouldn't have asked her about if the power of each character in the show is one for one for them in the Sacred Timeline like this but instead ask "when writing the show did you write every character with the intention of them being one to one with the Sacred Timeline", that way if she said yes to that too we'd be able to use that to justify Captain Marvel's feat along with it coming off less like we're only trying to get an upgrade.Also got this new statement
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I mean that’s basically what she said, they wanted to keep the characters one to one with there mainline counterparts and make the changes in personality seem plausible and they did the same for power lvls. I mean isn’t that the point of WoG though?
Lacku
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No totally but I'm only saying this cause of the rules on this wiki that I just found out about, personally I think it should be able to be used but idk about everybody else
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Ita always a problem. We had a Staff thread on this.
Because you asked a leading question and did so because an upgrade thread you wanted to get passed was going to be rejected.
This statement can't be used per the previous ruling.
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Hmmm,can you link me to the rules? I can’t seem to find them for WoG
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damn never knew about that, personally I think they should be able to be used but I'm not about to make a massive CRT about it
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Ok and? Would I still get penalized if I brought in any other new source of evidence like a guidebook or something.
what ruling? Can you link me to the rules so I can read this myself
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No, that’s not at all what Qawsef is saying.
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Basically
1. It can't be a leading question just for the sake of battleboarding or to get a personally-motivating answer (It is)
2. It must only be related to clarification on stuff that already exists within the actual source material (It doesn't, since scaling is a one-way street due to the whole "Variants" thing)
3. It CANNOT, IN ANY GOOD CONSCIENCE, CONTRADICT THE SOURCE MATERIAL WHATSOEVER. (Which it does when you go scaling What If to the canon MCU)
1. It can't be a leading question just for the sake of battleboarding or to get a personally-motivating answer (It is)
2. It must only be related to clarification on stuff that already exists within the actual source material (It doesn't, since scaling is a one-way street due to the whole "Variants" thing)
3. It CANNOT, IN ANY GOOD CONSCIENCE, CONTRADICT THE SOURCE MATERIAL WHATSOEVER. (Which it does when you go scaling What If to the canon MCU)
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