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To my knowledge, nothing of the CRT has been addressed in the past, except for the 5-C scaling which was considered an outlier, but now there are many High 6-A feats and statements
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MCU: High 6-A/5-C Upgrades
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There's a bunch of High 6-A instances that no one scales to, haven't happened on screen or are incredibly generous scaling interpretations.
Overall I'm against it.
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Those changes don't matter as long as it doesn't take place before Ultron transfer's himself into Vision's body, the timeframe between him getting the body and launching the nukes, while obviously not that long, is never clarified specifically as The Watcher stated that he began to "lay waste to the planet." A lot could've changed in that time, and don't get me wrong I think those changes are dumb too but it's still likely that everything before that point was the same.
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I mean dose it matter that other changes occurred in the timeline as long as characters power lvls are the same?
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Yeah seriously how does the location of the Infinity Stones affect how strong Captain Marvel is
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The Captain Marvel that perform the feat is indeed different from the one that we know, but the feat is still a good visual rappresentation of how the authors wants her power to be perceived, which is supported by the statements. While there is no way of proving that the power of that version of her is equal to the one of the Sacred Timeline, the origin of said power is the same, and considering that the Stones are equal to all the Universes I think that saying that she is millions of times stronger would be a stretch.
Regardless, that feat is a good support evidence for the numerous statements that put the character to that same level, so I think that discarding it completely would be wrong.
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So we're going to completely ignore Ronan stating that Captain Marvel is the weapon they search instead of the Tesseract, Kevin Feige stating that Captain Marvel can punch a moon away, the Mind Stone being superior to the Bifrost by Thor's statements, Stormbreaker at least overpowering the power of the Mind Stone and Space Stone which channels Thor's power, the blatant statements that put the Hadron Enforcer and Ronan at 5-C, and Rocket itself stating that Nidavellir creates the most powerful weapons in the universe? That sounds fair
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I already stated how this doesn’t automatically mean she is more powerful
It amplifies his power
Contradicted by power stone weapons.
It really doesn’t.
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Ah yes, Ronan wants Captain Marvel as a weapon instead of the Tesseract because she's prettier
Proof? The MCU Science Adviser says otherwise
They don't contradict anything, the 5-C statements are blatant, Rocket, who literally created the Hadron Enforcer with scrap from Quill's ship, states that Nidavellir creates the most powerful weapons in the universe, that at the very least puts the Stormbreaker above his own Hadron Enforcer
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Atta' boy
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Nice way to ignore how your argument was disputed.
You literally didn’t read what I said.
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Nice way to ignore how your argument was disputed.
Prove literally ANY other way that statement can be interpreted
Yeah it's clear that the weapons' magnify Thor's abilities they didn't always have Moon Level Dura
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What is the source of that scan? It doesn't look very reliable since it says that these weapons (Mjölnir and Stormbreaker) magnify his powers, when we know that Mjölnir doesn't do that, also the scan contradicts itself saying that his weapon acts only as a conduit
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You are literally missing the point, Rocket created the Hadron Enforcer, Rocket considers Nidavellir's weapons the most powerful in the universe, therefore Nidavellir's weapons at least are more powerful than his own Hadron Enforcer, which btw was literally built from scrap
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Please, remember I talked about the power stone stuff. Please.
The point isn’t that it can be interpreted other ways, but that it’s unreliable.
Yeah, which disproves what the op is saying about that science video.
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Why are you even bringing up the power stone in relation to nidvallar?
How?
we’re did you get the source from?
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The fact that Rocket has seen weapons powered by the power stone, and he knows what they can do. Please, please read my posts.
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The Power Stone has no importance in this, the creator of a 5-C weapon states that Nidavellir's weapons are the most powerful in the universe, simple as that
In what other ways then?
It literally doesn't, your scan is iffy according to what I said before and you didn't say what the source is, it has to be something important to get more preference than the MCU Science Adviser itself
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Stormbreaker cannot be stronger than the power stone. Eitri made it to counter the gauntlet. If it was stronger than the gauntlet Thanos wouldn’t have survived.
My guy, I said it wasn’t about interpretations, but about validity.
The science advisor isn’t a power scaler my guy. It’s from the Wakanda Files btw.
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No idea I stopped commenting after responding the Qawsedf234 the initially what's going on now I have no clue but I'm kinda just neutral on it all atp
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Again, the Power Stone doesn't matter, the scaling comes from Stormbreaker being more powerful than the Hadron Enforcer, plus the power of the Power Stone varies depending on the size
That was debunked months ago
And why does that matter? He states that Stormbreaker channels Thor's power, that's what's important, not the power scaling
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Ok and? He said they make “some” of the most powerful weapons to torment the universe. I’d image Infinity stones would be up there. Which post there’s bunch
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We never apply anything, and three people, of which two disagree with everything without giving any argument at the moment, aren't a "good amount of people"
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This thread is 4 pages long and has been out for multiple days.
Not to mention it's on one of the most popular verse on this site.
It's YOUR fault for not commenting and checking earlier, not to mention this "Good amount of people" is like 2 or 3 people at most.
One of which didn't even read the arguments proposed in OP's post
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are these “good amount to people” in the room with us right now?
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Chill.
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I expect people to weigh their opinion on a CRT upgrading quite possibly the most popular verse on this site, yes.
Also it's a CRT your kinda supposed to argue your point because that's the entire point of making one.
I also expect people who want to disagree or deny my points to read all of what I have said and countered before they disregard the upgrade, It's common sense.
If you don't like it then there's always Joke Battles Wiki for you
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Calc was invalid
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The power stone matters because it applies to weapons that would be stronger than what Rocket’s statement is saying.
When? It’s stated in several sources. If it was stronger than the gauntlet it would’ve gone through thanos.
Because it amplifies his power, meaning it’s stronger.
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Anyway, can you give a summary here? Not checking on the thread right now
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Huh? What do you mean?
I agree with this.
Thor does not scale 1to1 with either Mjolnir or Stormbreaker
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Oof, I misread what you said.
I agree that both Mjolnir and Stormbreaker are stronger than Thor but they are stronger because they channel Thor's energy.
So both the Hammer and Axe somewhat scale slightly above whatever tier Thor is at.
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Some Minor New Info I Found
Apparently Rocket can make explosives that can destroy PlanetsAlso it is confirmed that Captain Marvel went Binary when she overpowered Thanos as it's the same type of effect we see in this scene
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But not within one day and not with such a massive upgrade. We shouldn't push through any big upgrare so quickly.
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Yeah, I never said anything like that
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We’re did you get the rocket statement from?
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