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There’s a reason banner was begging for hulk to come out when fighting cull despite cull having damaged the suit cull is a hulk tier you physically can’t make the Hulk-Buster scale above hulk it was weaker then him back in AoU 2.0 has nothing to say it’s that much stronger lol the fact banner was calling hulk out despite that suit being damaged debunks there being a noticeable difference between mark 1 or mark 2 or it being stronger then hulk himself for that matter
Make a CRT to scale Hulk to Cull Obsidian and the Hulkbuster 2.0 then, this isn't the thread for that
 
A question, the durability of Ultimate Ultron (2nd key) should be 5-A since he is made of Vibranium, right? I ask because currently he only has 6-B dura instead of High 6-B+. Btw, the following profiles have to be unlocked to apply the changes:
  • Ancient One (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
  • Captain Carter (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
  • Doctor Strange Supreme (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
  • Hulk (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
  • Infinity Gauntlet (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
  • Infinity Ultron (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
  • Karl Mordo (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
  • Scarlet Witch (MCU: What If…?)
  • Thanos (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
  • Wong (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
 
A question, the durability of Ultimate Ultron (2nd key) should be 5-A since he is made of Vibranium, right? I ask because currently he only has 6-B dura instead of High 6-B+.
I would assume so. The combined attack that Ultimate Ultron was hit by only seemed to superheat his inner (non-Vibranium) layer to the point of glowing, and the Vibranium plating just seemed to fall away largely intact. Though I guess that would still mean even a AoU Wanda would already have 5-A scaling (at least at her angriest) for tearing apart a section of Ultron's torso that was still covered in Vibranium, something which the novel outright states:
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He fought on par with Vibranium Ultron
He could trade blows with Ultron, but didn't seem to cause any actual damage to his armor on his own, with the novel describing Ultron as appearing unharmed after his one-on-one fight with Vision (including getting knocked away by Mjolnir afterwards)
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He could trade blows with Ultron, but didn't seem to cause any actual damage to his armor on his own, with the novel describing Ultron as appearing unharmed after his one-on-one fight with Vision (including getting knocked away by Mjolnir afterwards)
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Vision was meant to be Ultron’s final form, an upgrade. He should upscale his vibranium body, and iirc weakened Vision does take a strike from Cull
 
At this rate we're going to end up scaling Pre-Awakening characters to 5-A, which wouldn't make any sense since there's a considerable scaling chain with a few one-shots between them and Thanos
 
Thanos was pretty easily able to break a hole in Vision's head with one hand, whereas it took him some effort to break Captain America's shield with his sword. Either way, What If? indicated that Ultron in Vision's body would've been able to use the Mind Stone's power far more effectively than Vision himself could (enough to oneshot the likes of Thanos)
 
Thanos was pretty easily able to break a hole in Vision's head with one hand, whereas it took him some effort to break Captain America's shield with his sword. Either way, What If? indicated that Ultron in Vision's body would've been able to use the Mind Stone's power far more effectively than Vision himself could (enough to oneshot the likes of Thanos)
That’s the mind stone tho why would ultron make himself a glass canon when he wanted the strongest form
 
That’s the mind stone tho why would ultron make himself a glass canon when he wanted the strongest form
I mean, density manipulation/intangibility would probably largely offset that. The Vision body clearly would've offered Ultron more versatility, while his Ultimate Ultron form only really had the heavy armor plating going for it, coming across as a stone wall with less versatility.
 
I mean, density manipulation/intangibility would probably largely offset that. The Vision body clearly would've offered Ultron more versatility, while his Ultimate Ultron form only really had the heavy armor plating going for it, coming across as a stone wall with less versatility.
or why wouldn’t he get all those abilities + stats and durability ultimate form not the ultimate glass canon or no
 
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Thanos was pretty easily able to break a hole in Vision's head with one hand, whereas it took him some effort to break Captain America's shield with his sword. Either way, What If? indicated that Ultron in Vision's body would've been able to use the Mind Stone's power far more effectively than Vision himself could (enough to oneshot the likes of Thanos)
That's easily explained as Vision being at low density. Corvus stabbed him while he was hiding as a civilian and he couldn't increase his density.
 
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