Maxwell vs. Bill Cipher

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

@Paulo And that is exactly what is going to f*** him over.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

 

[TheArsenal1212]

Yeah, because is Sock Opera, he still hadn't reach his physical form, so his plan could still go wrong at that point. 2-A Bill is he at his peak, where basically nothing can stop him, the journals even says that there's no way to beat him, he basically already won, there's no way he is going to be afraid of a kid with a book.

Ok so you debunked Sock Opera fair point. But what it proves is that Bill knows the Journals are dangerous. You didn't say anything that disproved my second point though. Without the journals, he longer believes Dipper is a threat.

Besides, seeing in sock opera when he feared the journals when he wasn't at full power, suggests he would still be cautious of maxwell's book. It's even like you said, he believes at full power that the journals are longer a threat, but once they are destroyed he also labels Dipper no longer a threat, meaning he still somewhat sees danger in them even if they aren't going to destroy him like he thinks. He would be cautious of Maxwell's book

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Bill never saw Dipper as a threat at any point in weirdmageddon, with or without journals, he was making fun of him and humiliating him the entire.

 

[TheArsenal1212]

That didn't exactly disprove anything I said though

Obviously Bill didn't see the journals as a threat. Obviously he is messing with him. But he clearly still believes that the journals are a threat.

But we aren't going to agree so I'm still going with Bill but it's probably not gonna reach a conclusion or it's gonna be inconclusive

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Obviously Bill didn't see the journals as a threat. Obviously he is messing with him. But he clearly still believes that the journals are a threat.

 

[TurboTriangle601]

Maxwell would probably use Bill's lack of knowledge and possible underestimation of him to his advantage and give him the adjective "Gone" or "Absent" and call it a day. Assuming Bill doesn't petrify him that is.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Right now I think I'm voting inconclusive, since it depends a lot on what Bill would do from the start. Even a non-serious Bill could potentially turn him into stone or do this, which would end the fight in a second, but if he does literally anything else, Maxwell vanquishes him pretty easily.

 

[TurboTriangle601]

Yeah, Inconclusive it is.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Maxwell would probably use Bill's lack of knowledge and possible underestimation of him to his advantage and give him the adjective "Gone" or "Absent" and call it a day. Assuming Bill doesn't petrify him that is.

he... he doesent do that in character tho. as i already pointed out


im for inconclusive too

 

[TheArsenal1212]

I was saying he didn't see that a threat at that moment but still saw them as a threat

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

but he didnt, the journals that he mostly wrote litiraly said that it could not be defeated

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Yeah, he didn't saw them as a threat because he was Tier 2 at the time, which he also is in this fight, so he won't see Maxwell as a threat anyway.

 

[TheArsenal1212]

I'm changing my vote to inconclusive. To many 'ifs' and 'buts' in the reasoning for both characters

 

[QrowBarr]

Changing my vore for inc as well

 

[TheArsenal1212]

Yeah, he didn't saw them as a threat because he was Tier 2 at the time, which he also is in this fight, so he won't see Maxwell as a threat anyway.

I don't agree but let's not keep going on about this. We have voted the same way anyway hahaha

 

[Jinsye]

Bump