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Quick question. Do Volume 3+ Scott and anyone who scales to him scale to Todd's speed oooooor? Because Scott did catch Todd off guard a few times, and even Crash and the Boys reacted to his psychic bass wave.
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Massive Scott Pilgrim Upgrades?
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I would think so.
My main question is how we would handle Matthew Patel and Lucas Lee. Since they came before Todd and Scott had less trouble with them IIRC, wouldn't they not scale? If so, what would they be even?
My main question is how we would handle Matthew Patel and Lucas Lee. Since they came before Todd and Scott had less trouble with them IIRC, wouldn't they not scale? If so, what would they be even?
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Well, Matthew definitely wouldn't scale, in my opinion. The first part of their "fight" was simply Scott casually blocking all his attacks and toying with him, and the second he wanted to end the fight, he one-shot Matthew. Lucas is...a bit tougher. We know Scott gets stronger as the series goes on, as stat boosts canonically increase your actual physical abilities (i.e. Scott going from being terrified of Roxie to casually one-shotting her after levelling up high enough to gain the Power of Love), and we know volume 1 Scott is, at the absolute least, significantly superior to Matthew (so at the very least Small Building level or so), but then we have Lucas, who is between Todd and Matthew, making him very hard to gauge, since Scott's power seemed to significantly increase over that time.
Lucas knocked volume 2 Scott on his ass with one punch, and then rendered him unconscious by hurling him into a building. However, Scott had no idea they were about to fight, at the time. Despite this, he did seem reluctant to fight Lucas, and instead opted to tricking him into his own demise. Because of this, it's really hard to say exactly where Lucas stands aside from "well above Matthew but well below Todd", which is a MASSIVE gap he could be anywhere within.
Lucas knocked volume 2 Scott on his ass with one punch, and then rendered him unconscious by hurling him into a building. However, Scott had no idea they were about to fight, at the time. Despite this, he did seem reluctant to fight Lucas, and instead opted to tricking him into his own demise. Because of this, it's really hard to say exactly where Lucas stands aside from "well above Matthew but well below Todd", which is a MASSIVE gap he could be anywhere within.
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@LordXCano: Good work.
Now that the AP revision is done, should any of the speed settings of Scott and the characters who scale to it be changed in any way?
Now that the AP revision is done, should any of the speed settings of Scott and the characters who scale to it be changed in any way?
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Thebluedash/Scott_Pilgrim_-_Moon_calc
You mean these holes?
You mean these holes?
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He did. Then we found out he was lying about that, as well, since he claimed he was using his full power against SSG Goku, but later talked with Whis about he was lying to try and draw out more power from his foes.LordXcano said:
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Again, the speed portrayed in the movie re-enaction of the event is not contradicted anywhere in the comic itself: in fact, if anything, the "flying to the moon in a fairly short timeframe" only further supports it. Even if you want to rule that it's secondary canon (even though it's literally the exact same feat), it would still be secondary canon not contradicted my the main canon, and therefore be perfectly viable.
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Also, Scott's subsonic feat was tagging Roxy, who moved so fast people couldn't see her, right?ThePerpetual said:
If the MHS+ feat is accepted, would this just scale to everyone who is already scaled to the Subsonic feat?
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Basically, yeah, except for maybe Lucas for reasons already covered.
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@Azzy: It probably should then if anything....
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Is this concluded, then? All loose ends tied up? If so, I'll close up the thread and get to updating the profiles when I'm available.
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Well in the movie, the feat has a different looking moon with different measurements and everything so it's not really the same.ThePerpetual said:
If this wiki uses movie adaptions to guess the speed of feats I guess it makes sense, but I always thought we tended to stay away from adaptation version of feats. For DBZ feats do we look at the time frame in the anime adaptation to determine the speed of them? Cause I thought we never did.
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I've never heard of a specific rule against such a thing, I've generally just heard that values from the original source should be used if possible (which it is not in this case, as they don't exist).
As for different measurements, I could always take the timeframe from the movie and plug that in to the diameter/radius values calculated from the comic I guess? Probably won't change all that much, but ehh.
@Antvas I was in the middle of responding...
As for different measurements, I could always take the timeframe from the movie and plug that in to the diameter/radius values calculated from the comic I guess? Probably won't change all that much, but ehh.
@Antvas I was in the middle of responding...
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@Antvas Yeah, that's sort of what I was getting at. Were it possible to imply any kind of timeframe from the comic other than "relatively short", I'd use that instead: as it stands, I cannot. (First rule.) There's no author statements regarding the speed here, either (Seocnd rule.) Thus, I'm lef twith what is demonstrated on-screen, which is what I calculated (and will probably have to modify a bit to accomodate for the somewhat smaller crater diameter.)
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Not really. It's the speed the punch impacted the moon and indented it (combat speed), not the speed he flew to it (travel): even in the movie, there's literally no way of getting a solid timeframe for his flight there because of how it's presented (we just can tell that it's flight, as opposed to teleportation.) This... might apply to travel speed as well? I doubt Ramona would sit around in one spot, in more or less the same position, for half an hour or so, and the way Todd referenced it implies it's not going to take all that long.
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