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He was able to physically grapple with Cap though.
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Everyone was holding back in strength in Civil War. Cap wasn't going to 9-A Ultron Smash a kid who could potentially be far weaker than him, neither was Bucky. Nobody had the intent to kill the other in the Airport fightByAsura said:Iron Man didn't say he was holding back in strength, just that, if Cap wanted to, he could have knocked Spider-Man out. It also didn't seem like Cap was holding back in strength, had trouble, and just didn't use his array of fighting skills.
Wait, confused the shield's AP for its dura. I'll fix itByAsura said:@Zark Black Panther's claws are scaled to the durability of Cap's shield, which is still Mountain level+.
Yes it does. Also, Cap hurting Spider-Man still makes his dura 9-AByAsura said:Not trying to kill Spider-Man doesn't mean he was holding back. There was still the tug of war scene, etc.
And yet Captain America, Spider-Man and Star-Lord aren't High 6-B for hurting Thanos. Inconsistent durability is a extremely common thing is fiction.KLOL506 said:Not sure if you can hold back your dura in MCU like DB characters do tho.
None of them drew blood from Thanos like Iron Man tho. Might as well be a matter of lifting strength where you get pushed around without doing anything. Like, with Wall level AP you should be able to easily send someone weighing at 240 pounds flying a few meters back if the 240-lb guy with comparable AP and lifting strength doesn't resist, or something like thatZark2099 said:And yet Captain America, Spider-Man and Star-Lord aren't High 6-B for hurting Thanos. Inconsistent durability is a extremely common thing is fiction.KLOL506 said:Not sure if you can hold back your dura in MCU like DB characters do tho.
I'm personally neutral on Spidey scaling to his dura, at this point I just want results
They scale via a long-scaling chain.KLOL506 said:And the characters are High Hypersonic with no justification at all, despite the fact that they scale to Iron Man, Vision and other Mach 43 characters.
Thanks, Aguilar. That's what I meant to say.AguilaR101 said:Justifications for speed need to be reworded, profiles like Black Panther and Scarlet Witch both directly link to calculations that are nowhere near hypersonic.
Something like that, yeah.Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:So basically if you catch someone on surprise, we should calculate the KE of that attack. But if you attack someone who is resisting, then you scale.
there is no time needed to be involved in the feat. after pushing the rotors, he continues on accelerating further so its like man pushing a heavy pushcart of mall stuff.Hellbeast1 said:Again tho that's over time (the turbine feat I mean)
Would only work if he crashes into something and comes to a full stop. Similar to a car crash. You absorb the full impact if you and the car both stop dead in the tracks or get rammed into a wall and then stop.Blitzedaken said:i think lets just keep iron man's stats instead of simply adding 8-c on him. after all, he consistently tends to fly everyday while fighting, punching and blasting. no moderator like matt has supported/approved on this downgrade yet. peak is uneccessary.