Massive Dragon Ball Super Scaling Revision

[ZetaMarishi]

y'know, akm once made the point that "a 2-d square drawn on a screen cannot become one with a 3-d cube box in real life" when arguing that infinite zamasu had to have fourth dimensional power to merge with the universe. seeing as how the energy that fused with the universe is literally just fusion zamasu's ki, displaced after his body was destroyed, wouldn't the normal fusion zamasu have to be low 2-c?

Listen, I've wanted this for a long time due to the fact that that's the Zamasu who, afair, had the statement of his ki infinitely expanding and also the Zamasu that just did the feat to begin with.

 

[JOLTxx]

y'know, akm once made the point that "a 2-d square drawn on a screen cannot become one with a 3-d cube box in real life" when arguing that infinite zamasu had to have fourth dimensional power to merge with the universe. seeing as how the energy that fused with the universe is literally just fusion zamasu's ki, displaced after his body was destroyed, wouldn't the normal fusion zamasu have to be low 2-c?

Akm was correct

 

[Aachintya31]

Correct!

Which is why Whis and Vados intervened on both occasions!

In another episode they fought until both of them were all bloody.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

y'know, akm once made the point that "a 2-d square drawn on a screen cannot become one with a 3-d cube box in real life" when arguing that infinite zamasu had to have fourth dimensional power to merge with the universe. seeing as how the energy that fused with the universe is literally just fusion zamasu's ki, displaced after his body was destroyed, wouldn't the normal fusion zamasu have to be low 2-c?

Honestly yeah. That actually makes lots of sense. Why don't we just scale merged zamasu to low 2-C and infinite zamasu would just be him but with a higher dimensional body.

 

[Aachintya31]

Honestly yeah. That actually makes lots of sense. Why don't we just scale merged zamasu to low 2-C and infinite zamasu would just be him but with a higher dimensional body.

This could work.

 

[JOLTxx]

Honestly yeah. That actually makes lots of sense. Why don't we just scale merged zamasu to low 2-C and infinite zamasu would just be him but with a higher dimensional body.

Yeah Infinite zamasu would just be L2-C merged zamasu with higher dimensional existence. I don't recall any statements that he grew in power when he was merging with the universe and other timelines

 

[speedster352]

Disagree fra

 

[AwkguyDB]

disagree fra

 

[JOLTxx]

This could work.

Then would you agree to jiren's power scaling above merged zamasu?

 

[Aachintya31]

Then would you agree to jiren's power scaling above merged zamasu?

Yes.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Honestly yeah. That actually makes lots of sense. Why don't we just scale merged zamasu to low 2-C and infinite zamasu would just be him but with a higher dimensional body.

It'd be consistent with Goku's senzu statement Ig?

 

[JOLTxx]

Yes.

Ah then I guess your confusion has been clarified

 

[JOLTxx]

It'd be consistent with Goku's senzu statement Ig?

Yes

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Honestly yeah. That actually makes lots of sense. Why don't we just scale merged zamasu to low 2-C and infinite zamasu would just be him but with a higher dimensional body.

can we get low 2-C battle of gods from this line of reasoning now

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

can we get low 2-C battle of gods from this line of reasoning now

Why would BOG Goku scale to merged zamasu in any way?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Well, you can't suppress yourself infinitely.

 

[Vizer04]

y'know, akm once made the point that "a 2-d square drawn on a screen cannot become one with a 3-d cube box in real life" when arguing that infinite zamasu had to have fourth dimensional power to merge with the universe. seeing as how the energy that fused with the universe is literally just fusion zamasu's ki, displaced after his body was destroyed, wouldn't the normal fusion zamasu have to be low 2-c?

I unironically agree with this.

 

[Aachintya31]

Ah then I guess your confusion has been clarified

Currently ,we still shouldn't scale jiren to IZ's 4D existence because they really didn't fought him and needed zeno to defeat him.

 

[Aachintya31]

Shin states "This power Feels Different than we've ever faced before"
I'll explain why this shouldn't be scaled to Jiren.
They never fought IZ's full power ,if they would they would be badly stomped (3A vs low 2C).
This is the same reason jiren isn't scaled to angels because they have never faced an angel's full power.
Jiren is blatantly scaled to IZ's 4D existence
GN for now.

 

[Eseseso]

Whis literally stated that the heavily suppressed Jiren who was pushing back the Spirit Bomb was God of Destruction level, he was not talking about FP Jiren.

So Jiren should keep his Low 2-C

 

[Aachintya31]

Whis literally stated that the heavily suppressed Jiren who was pushing back the Spirit Bomb was God of Destruction level, he was not talking about FP Jiren.

So Jiren should keep his Low 2-C

Why only low 2C he should then be scaled to half 2C beerus and Champa's feat

 

[AwkguyDB]

I unironically agree with this.

Same LOL

 

[AwkguyDB]

Wait what are the actual objections to a Fusion Zamasu not being Low 2-C? He just needs to scale to the power of his Infinite form

 

[Eseseso]

Why only low 2C he should then be scaled to half 2C beerus and Champa's feat

Oh yeah I forgot they were 2-C

 

[Nullflowerblush]

maybe a separate thread for fusion zamasu should be made

 

[Eseseso]

To follow up on my earlier comment I have no idea why this thread can't accept that Whis was blatantly talking about restrained Jiren scaling >= a GoD and not FP Jiren, especially since FP Jiren only came during the ToP

 

[AwkguyDB]

Thats another thing, Why isn't Zamasu's merging with both timelines unquantifiably above Low 2-C? He has already merged with one whole one and was working on the other.

Basically shouldn't he be unquantifiably above Baseline?

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Thats another thing, Why isn't Zamasu's merging with both timelines unquantifiably above Low 2-C? He has already merged with one whole one and was working on the other

I have a ton to say about infinite zamasu being low 2-C in the first place but el discussion rule

 

[Vizer04]

maybe a separate thread for fusion zamasu should be made

This sounds like a good idea, discussing it here will only derail this thread.

 

[Greenshifter]

Ayo this is not how it should work.

Welcome to VSBW DB scaling.

 

[Greenshifter]

Also if we say that IZ is just spreading out his ki to become bigger, Fusion Zamasu would be 2-B since he'd scale to the end result.

 

[luis3333]

Shin dice "Este poder se siente diferente de lo que hemos enfrentado antes"
Explicaré por qué esto no debería escalarse a Jiren.
Nunca pelearon con todo el poder de IZ, si lo hicieran serían pisoteados gravemente (3A vs 2C bajo).
Esta es la misma razón por la que Jiren no se escala a los ángeles porque nunca se han enfrentado al poder total de un ángel.
Jiren está escalado descaradamente a la existencia 4D de IZ
GN por ahora.

zamas was not already combined trunks line traveled goku time line in a short time it should be greater than low 2c since it was only braked

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Also if we say that IZ is just spreading out his ki to become bigger, Fusion Zamasu would be 2-B since he'd scale to the end result.

Oof

 

[Greenshifter]

Almost as if that'd be consistent with 2-C BoG Goku and Jiren's power transcending time, weird.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Almost as if that'd be consistent with 2-C BoG Goku and Jiren's power transcending time, weird.

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[Greenshifter]

The new DBH stuff, now THAT'S based

 

[Eseseso]

Also if we say that IZ is just spreading out his ki to become bigger, Fusion Zamasu would be 2-B since he'd scale to the end result.

Uh to be 2-B he'd need to merge with at least 1000 universes

 

[Greenshifter]

Uh to be 2-B he'd need to merge with at least 1000 universes

Almost like there are at least a 1000 timelines each containing 12-18 universes?

 

[Eseseso]

Almost like there are at least a 1000 timelines each containing 12-18 universes?

How do we know how many timelines there are?

 

[JOLTxx]

Why only low 2C he should then be scaled to half 2C beerus and Champa's feat

Idk why you're using beerus as a baseline of Gods of destructions