Massive Bakugan Hax/Speed Revisions

[Apollonir.Scale]

Hello. Me again and Bakugan again. I will talk about the hax of Bakugan characters and the speed of top tier Bakugan.

Speed: In fact, Drago's infinite speed was accepted under a CRT that opened in 2017. However, his profile was not entered. I do not know why. I will directly copy and paste ProfessorKukui's argument:

• Both Drago and Razenoid can move and fight each other in the Dark Reversed Dimension of Earth with absolutely no problems and it would appear that Time is stopped within the reversed version of any world. We see this when the people of earth are transported to the Dark Reversed version of Earth by Mag-Mel. They are completely frozen and don't move at all andeverything starts proceeding again once they return back to the normal world.

Edit: Since there is not enough evidence for infinite speed, we can use this as a Time Stop Resistor at most.

Hax:
Naga: Naga created Masquerade and Hal G and gave them special abilities. Haxes of Masquerade and Hal G. (Intangibility, Technology Manipulation, Hacking)
Naga is the creator of the Bakugan in the villainous group called the Doom Beings. This is confirmed by the Bakugan Wiki. The Haxes they possess should also be added to Silent Naga. Because these Bakugan did not gain a power later (except Hydranoid, Leonidas and Vladiator) So Naga should also have these haxes since it is Naga who gave them these powers. The characters I am talking about are: Rabeeder, Tricloid, Druman, Centorrior, Tayghen and Hairadee

Naga was able to strengthen Tricloid (Power Bestowal)

Helios: When Viper Helios first appears, he radiates an Aura around him. Dan asks what this is. Drago says, "It's nothing but a scary Aura." This line is found in the original Japanese version. They changed this conversation in the Western version. (Aura; Fear-inducing)

He tries to annoy Drago with his words so that he can see that he is using all his power. (Social Influencing)

Even in his Viper Helios form, he has 3 Power Nullification abilities:

• Burst Core: Nullifies all of the opponent's abilities.
• Nova Spiral: Nullifies all of the opponent's abilities.
• Nova Defenser: Nullifies the opponent's ability (maximum of two can be nullified)

Cyborg Helios can obtain information about his opponent's power thanks to the machines he has. He has this feature in all his forms except Viper Helios. (Information Analysis)

He has many attacks that can be considered Danmaku

In the Bakugan wiki, it is stated that his body is covered with poisonous thorns (Poison Manipulation)

As the name suggests, he is a Cyborg (Cyborgization)

Does it count as Explosion Manipulation?

Darkus Infinity Helios:
Marucho is forced to erase Bakugan Interspace. So, as a final resort to stop him, Marucho decided to ultimately and completely delete Bakugan Interspace using a Deletion Program he developed. Once activated, this Deletion Program would delete anything and everything in B.I., including B.I. itself. It would be completely erased and dissapeer forever, leaving nothing left. The Brawlers and everyone inside were able to make it out and back into the real world, using Marucho's Accespoints, except for Helios and Spectra who stayed behind to fend off Mag-Mels Chaos Bakugan. Before they could make it out, the deletion program did its job and completely erased B.I. forever. Including Mag-Mels Chaos Bakugan, Spectra and Helios. But somehow, in the following episode, Spectra and Helios appear to help fight against Mag-Mel with absolutely no harm or even scratches despite being completely erased. Bear in mind that, at the time, everyone who was trapped in B.I. had their ability to come back into the real world taken away. People could teleport in, but they weren't able to teleport back out. Once coming inside they would be permanently trapped. The only way they were able to ever leave was using emergency Accesspoints Marucho developed at the last moment but Dan and Drago used the last one to escape, leaving Spectra and Helios trapped. So the only logical way both could have survived and come back from B.I.'s deletion is by regenerating after the erasure. To have High-Godly Regen you need to be able to survive being erased and the reality you're in being destroyed, which is exactly what needed to happen here. Because to be frank, without regenerating, theres literally NO possible way those 2 could come back from being completely deleted, let alone escaping the erased reality at all. In addition, Spectra and Helios both showed absolutely 0 signs of panic or worry upon being left behind (in fact they were rather confident and straight up didnt care), strongly implying that being deleted wouldnt end or even harm them, as demonstrated. So if acceptable, both would have High-Godly Rege or Resistance to Existence Erasure

Hydranoid: He can have BFR with the Doom Card. As a result, he sends the Bakugan he defeats to the Doom Dimension. This card is not specific to Hydranoid. This card is a card owned by the user of Bakugan. Masquerade, the first owner of Hydranoid, has this card. The next owner, Alice, does not have this card. We can open a new form for Hydranoid and name it "Alpha Hydranoid with Alice" and all Hydranoid forms before Alice will have BFR with Doom Card.

Gravity Chamber: Moves all opponents on the battlefield to Hydranoid's card, and whoever's power level is lower than his is defeated. This is how it is explained in Bakugan Wiki. So unless it has higher AP than Hydranoid, it loses. I think this ability would be Limited Fate Manipulation.

In other words, Hydranoid can use his abilities to reduce the opponent's strength, and then use this ability to send him to the Destiny Dimension. Stat Manipulation + Limited Fate Manipulation + BFR combo I don't know if such a combo is allowed in Crossverse, I wanted to ask you.

Bodily Weaponry

Apollonir: This ability of Apollonir can be considered as power absorption.

Dharak: Phantom Dharak's attack causes Drago to go crazy and fight his urges In the rest of the scene, we see Drago sleeping in his own mind. So Dharak's attack first drives you insane and then puts you to sleep within your mind. Drago wouldn't have survived if it wasn't for Dan. (Type 2 Madness Manipulation/Sleep Manipulation)

Sabator: Tough Rock: Nullifies the opponent's abilities for a short time. (Power Nullfication)

Base Drago: His power increased when it should have been transferred to his opponent. There may be resistance to power absorption. Other Bakugan from the Dragonoid type should also be added: Mock Dragonoid, Helios, Wavern, Naga and Apollonir.

Infinity Dragonoid: While in this form, Drago has the Infinity Core. All abilities that Wavern has with the infinity core should be added to all forms of Drago that have the infinity core. Infinity Dragonoid and all Dragonoid forms after this form have the infinity core. All of Wavern's haxes, except the ability to fly, come from the infinity core.

Dextra Attack: This is like atomizing. In order to use this ability, you must have a Bakugan with 6 characteristics. So there may be limited use. With the creation hax, he can create and use 5 Bakugan with different features. (Deconstruction)

Perfect Dragonoid/Perfect Core: It takes the core of silence that Naga has. Naga needs to get all the hax he has thanks to the silence core. All of his Haxes, except the ability to fly, come from the Silence Core. All Drago forms after this form should have these hax's thanks to the Perfect Core. So it's not just specific to this form.

Drago's Perfect Core Form should get the Incorporeality hax. While in this form, he gives up his body and continues as a core.

Conceptual Manipulation: Now the reason for this would be because of the Infinity and Silent Cores. But to be more specific, this ability would come from creating the 2 cores and the 6 attributes that all Bakugan in existence would eventually obtain for themselves. Firstly, in the beginning of the series, Drago explains to the brawlers about his homeworld and the 2 forces in the very center of it all. Forces that he specifies as "Infinity, the source of all positive energy, and the Silent Core, the source of all negative energy. These 2 opposing forces maintain the equalibrium of our dimension." You can find his statement in this episode (skip to 15:17). Basically, to make the story short, Drago is explaining that the Infinity and Silent Cores are the sources of literally all Positive and Negative forces in the Bakugan verse. But of course, that alone wouldnt be enough to grant C.M. to him. So to further give this leverage, there is also the fact that the concepts of said Positive and Negative forces were never a thing to begin with until Vestroia was created by the Original Dragonoid long ago. Although its true that the 6 Ancient Soldiers were the ones who formed the Infinity and Silent Cores, they acomplished it through gathering already existing forces. Forces that were first brought into creation the instant Vestroia itself was created. In other words, if Vestroia was never created, then neither would these concepts and other concepts that they come with (ex: Negative Energy brings evil while Positive Energy brings Good). The same treatment goes for the 6 Bakugan attributes according tothis I found. Long ago, when Vestroia used to be in its original form, Bakugan were living as normal creatures. But out of nowhere, a burst of positive energy came and created the literal 6 Attributes, giving Bakugan the power of the attributes. With this, it proves/strongly implies that the 6 Attributes were concepts that never existed until Positive Energy created them (this also explains why only the Infinity Core gives its holder the complete power of all 6 Attributes unlike its Silent Core counterpart). It is debateable on whether or not Code Eve or the Original Drago are responsible for this feat, but it really shouldnt change anything.

Cross Dragonoid: He must have all the haxes that Apollonir had. Because it takes Apollonir's attribute energy. The attribute energy also contains Apollonir's DNA. Bakugan's Hax are found in their DNA (except for Mechanical Bakugan abilities and forbidden card abilities). I will write below the evidence that Bakugan have Hax through DNA.

Helix Dragonoid: In this form, he evolves by absorbing the energy contained in a bomb that contains the characteristic energy of all Six of the Six Ancient Warriors. It has been confirmed in the Wiki that Helix Dragonoid has the DNA of ancient warriors. So the Haxes of Apollonir, Oberus, Frosch, Lars Lion, Clayf and Exedra should be in Helix Dragonoid and all Drago forms after Helix Dragonoid. By the way, on Clayf's page, it says Apollonir in the name section. Let's fix that too.

Lumino Dragonoid: Drago receives the power called "ELEMENT" from a Bakugan named Neo. Lumino Dragonoid, who has the element, and all forms after this form must have the haxes that Neo has thanks to the element. In short, Empathy Manipulation and Life Manipulation should be added.

Titanium Dragonoid: Drago receives the power of Code Eve and all the Bakugan DNA within it. Now he has become the Father of Bakugan. Code Eve contains the DNA of all Bakugan. Titanium Dragonoid and the Fusion Dragonoid and Aerolblitz Dragonoid forms that follow this form must have all the Bakugan haxes that Code Eve has. By the way, Code Eve has the DNA of all Bakugan except Leonidas and Mechanical Bakugan.

Drago can drive a motorcycle. Since it is not like a real-life engine, it may be considered invalid, but if it is valid, it means that he should get the "Vehicular Mastery" hax.

Unless I misunderstood the Holy Manipulation hax, it is given to characters who receive a holy power or can manipulate holy power. Drago gets power from Code Eve, also known as the Sacred Orb. Will Dharak also receive unholy manipulation because he was cursed by the Sacred Orb?

Now I will present evidence that when you have the DNA of a Bakugan, you also have its abilities. It was previously removed from the fandom due to insufficient evidence. Professor Kukui could have proven it if he had argued it a little better. Still, I would like to thank him for his contributions to Bakugan.

I had proven that the attribute energies of the Six Ancient Warriors also contained their DNA. Nemus, who received Lars Lion's DNA, had the ability to resurrect the lost Bakugan and bring them back into battle, just like Lars Lion could. He does not have this ability in his base form. However, it has received its attribute energy and has an evolved form.

Made from Hydranoid's DNA, Hades has Hydranoid's abilities

Hydranoid's abilities
Hades's abilities

Drago takes the Pyrus Attribute Energy containing Apollonir's DNA and turns into Cross Dragonoid. Just like Apollonir, he can bring the power level of the opposing Bakugan to the level they started the match with.

Cross Drago's abilities
Apollonir's abilities

What the two abilities have in common is that they reduce the opponent's strength to the strength they had at the beginning of the match.

Fusion Dragonoid: All previous haxes

Afterimage Creation

General Bakugan Hax: Bakugan can breathe in space. (Self-Sustenance Type 1 and Radiation Manipulation Resistance)

Large Size plot: Drago is as big as a building. Here is the difference between the heights of Drago and other Bakugan. Most Bakugan are either the same height or taller than Drago. I guess being as big as a building gives you at least Large size 0. I still wanted to consult.

Staff only
Agree:
Disagree:
Netural:

 

[PatatesR]

Everything except infinite speed seems acceptable.

 

[Matrixxxx]

I don't agree with the infinite speed scale because
Moving in the dark dimension doesn't give infinite speed, it's just a resistance. Extra evidence is needed for it to give speed.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Moving in the dark dimension

The dimension is called the Dark Dimension. The main thing I'm talking about is that time stops in this dimension and Drago and Razenoid can move here.

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Speed

Moving in timeless zones doesn’t gives infinite speed. It used to years ago, but it no longer does so currently.

Naga created Masquerade and Hal G and gave them special abilities. Haxes of Masquerade and Hal G. (Intangibility, Technology Manipulation, Hacking)

This is Power Bestowal through Corruption. Naga doesn’t needs to possess those abilities to bestow them to others.

Naga is the creator of the Bakugan in the villainous group called the Doom Beings. This is confirmed by the Bakugan Wiki. The Haxes they possess should also be added to Silent Naga. Because these Bakugan did not gain a power later (except Hydranoid, Leonidas and Vladiator) So Naga should also have these haxes since it is Naga who gave them these powers. The characters I am talking about are: Rabeeder, Tricloid, Druman, Centorrior, Tayghen and Hairadee

Naga didn’t directly created them, the Doom Beings were a result of the mixture of the attribute realms caused by the Silent Core's Negative Energy, which lead to them being born because of the conditions of the formed ecosystem and turning out evil because of it. Aside of that, Creators don’t get the powers of their Creation's unless there’s something that points otherwise.

Naga was able to strengthen Tricloid (Power Bestowal)

This is Statistics Amplification.

When Viper Helios first appears, he radiates an Aura around him. Dan asks what this is. Drago says, "It's nothing but a scary Aura." This line is found in the original Japanese version. They changed this conversation in the Western version. (Aura; Fear-inducing)

Neutral.

He tries to annoy Drago with his words so that he can see that he is using all his power. (Social Influencing)

Even in his Viper Helios form, he has 3 Power Nullification abilities:

• Burst Core: Nullifies all of the opponent's abilities.
• Nova Spiral: Nullifies all of the opponent's abilities.
• Nova Defenser: Nullifies the opponent's ability (maximum of two can be nullified)

Cyborg Helios can obtain information about his opponent's power thanks to the machines he has. He has this feature in all his forms except Viper Helios. (Information Analysis)

He has many attacks that can be considered Danmaku

In the Bakugan wiki, it is stated that his body is covered with poisonous thorns (Poison Manipulation)

As the name suggests, he is a Cyborg (Cyborgization)

Does it count as Explosion Manipulation?

Agree.

Phantom Dharak's attack causes Drago to go crazy and fight his urges In the rest of the scene, we see Drago sleeping in his own mind. So Dharak's attack first drives you insane and then puts you to sleep within your mind. Drago wouldn't have survived if it wasn't for Dan.(Type 2 Madness Manipulation/Sleep Manipulation)

Dharak just hit him hard and Drago started to hear 'Monster' in the background.

This isn’t Dharak inducing anything on Drago though an ability, he inflicted a physical trauma that left Drago's consciousness out of commission. Disagree.

Sabator: Tough Rock: Nullifies the opponent's abilities for a short time. (Power Nullfication)

Agree.

Base Drago: His power increased when it should have been transferred to his opponent. There may be resistance to power absorption.

His energy was still being absorbed by Tentaclear proven by the fact that Tentaclear's Power Level was still increasing. Drago was just forcibly increasing his G-Power and as such countering the effect, not stopping his energy from being absorbed.

Infinity Dragonoid: While in this form, Drago has the Infinity Core. All abilities that Wavern has with the infinity core should be added to all forms of Drago that have the infinity core. Infinity Dragonoid and all Dragonoid forms after this form have the infinity core. All of Wavern's haxes, except the ability to fly, come from the infinity core.

I agree.

Dextra Attack: This is like atomizing. In order to use this ability, you must have a Bakugan with 6 characteristics. So there may be limited use. With the creation hax, he can create and use 5 Bakugan with different features. (Deconstruction)

Disagree. This has nothing to do with Atomization, is part of a Bakugan's physiology. There’s so much energy a Bakugan's body can take before either evolving or blowing up themselves. The Six Attribute Combination + Infinity Core + Silent Core was just too much for Naga's body to handle and, as such, he was destroyed.

Perfect Dragonoid/Perfect Core: It takes the core of silence that Naga has. Naga needs to get all the hax he has thanks to the silence core. All of his Haxes, except the ability to fly, come from the Silence Core. All Drago forms after this form should have these hax's thanks to the Perfect Core.

Agree.

Drago's Perfect Core Form should get the Incorporeality hax. While in this form, he gives up his body and continues as a core.

Disagree on the premise that either "Perfect Core Dragonoid" is the character we see before he merges Vestroia or a key for Perfect Core Dragonoid is completely useless because Drago explicitly cannot do anything other than watch in that form, hence why Neo Dragonoid was created.

Conceptual Manipulation: snip

Disagree, Attributes, Positive Energy and Negative Energy not existing before doesn’t means that the Concept of these things didn’t exist beforehand, they just didn’t had any practical use.

Cross Dragonoid: He must have all the haxes that Apollonir had. Because it takes Apollonir's attribute energy. The attribute energy also contains Apollonir's DNA.

Helix Dragonoid: In this form, he evolves by absorbing the energy contained in a bomb that contains the characteristic energy of all Six of the Six Ancient Warriors. It has been confirmed in the Wiki that Helix Dragonoid has the DNA of ancient warriors. So the Haxes of Apollonir, Oberus, Frosch, Lars Lion, Clayf and Exedra should be in Helix Dragonoid and all Drago forms after Helix Dragonoid

Neutral.

Drago can drive a motorcycle. Since it is not like a real-life engine, it may be considered invalid, but if it is valid, it means that he should get the "Vehicular Mastery" hax.

Agree.

Unless I misunderstood the Holy Manipulation hax, it is given to characters who receive a holy power or can manipulate holy power. Drago gets power from Code Eve, also known as the Sacred Orb.

Just the Infinity Core or the Element would be enough, but agree nonetheless.

Will Dharak also receive unholy manipulation because he was cursed by the Sacred Orb?

No.

I had proven that the attribute energies of the Six Ancient Warriors also contained their DNA. Nemus, who received Lars Lion's DNA, had the ability to resurrect the lost Bakugan and bring them back into battle, just like Lars Lion could. He does not have this ability in his base form. However, it has received its attribute energy and has an evolved form.

It’s a standard Haos Ability, Baron points it out. And not the only like it.

Aside of that, Nemus had already lost Lars Lion's Attribute Energy by this point to the BT System.

Made from Hydranoid's DNA, Hades has Hydranoid's abilities

Hades is deliberately created to be an imitation of Alpha Hydranoid. That’s a bad example.

Drago takes the Pyrus Attribute Energy containing Apollonir's DNA and turns into Cross Dragonoid. Just like Apollonir, he can bring the power level of the opposing Bakugan to the level they started the match with.

The ability is to reduce an opponent's Bakugan to Apollonir's own base level. I'm pretty sure Drago hasn’t made that and I’m also sure Apollonir's isn’t the only ability that gets other Bakugan to their base level (though I admittedly can’t remember a particular instance).

Hydranoid: He can have BFR with the Doom Card. As a result, he sends the Bakugan he defeats to the Doom Dimension. This card is not specific to Hydranoid. This card is a card owned by the user of Bakugan. Masquerade, the first owner of Hydranoid, has this card. The next owner, Alice, does not have this card. We can open a new form for Hydranoid and name it "Alpha Hydranoid with Alice" and all Hydranoid forms before Alice will have BFR with Doom Card.

Limited BFR, as the Doom Card only activates once the foe is defeated.

Gravity Chamber: Moves all opponents on the battlefield to Hydranoid's card, and whoever's power level is lower than his is defeated. This is how it is explained in Bakugan Wiki. So unless it has higher AP than Hydranoid, it loses. I think this ability would be Limited Fate Manipulation.

Agree on Gravity Manipulation. Neutral on Fate Manipulation. The abilities that translate in a Bakugan losing in a Brawl are not the same ones that apply in an actual battle. The Mine Ghost, for an instance, is supposed to automatically defeat any Bakugan standing on the Gate Card, but when the JJ Dolls used it against Tayghen, it only worked to blast her off. On the other side, the use is still ambiguous as Masquerade suggested that the Third Judgement would've worked against Centorrior and Druman.

Stat Manipulation + Limited Fate Manipulation + BFR combo I don't know if such a combo is allowed in Crossverse, I wanted to ask you.

Probably.

 

[DonkeySlayer06]

Moving in the timeless zone is just resistance. It does not give infinite speed. I agree with the others, there seems to be no problem.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

I share the exact same thoughts as @Monkey_Dunno

don't bring up old ass crt anymore man

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

I agree with the topic.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

I don't understand why. After Drago was attacked by Dharak, all he could think about was destroying Dharak. Dan thinks Dharak's attack drove him insane.

This isn’t Dharak inducing anything on Drago though an ability, he inflicted a physical trauma that left Drago's consciousness out of commission. Disagree.

And not the only like it.

Nemus' ability and what you're talking about are different abilities. What you're saying is that you take the losing rival Bakugan as your own ally in battle. The ability I'm talking about is to bring your own friendly Bakugan back into battle.

Aside of that, Nemus had already lost Lars Lion's Attribute Energy by this point to the BT System.

Even if their Attribute Energy is lost to the IT System, the Bakugan's abilities are not lost when they lose their Energy. If there is evidence that they have lost their abilities, I can't say anything more about it.

The ability is to reduce an opponent's Bakugan to Apollonir's own base level. I'm pretty sure Drago hasn’t made that and I’m also sure Apollonir's isn’t the only ability that gets other Bakugan to their base level (though I admittedly can’t remember a particular instance).

Apollonir has two skills. Firstly, only the opponent's power returns to the initial level. Secondly, the power of both sides returns to the initial level.

His energy was still being absorbed by Tentaclear proven by the fact that Tentaclear's Power Level was still increasing. Drago was just forcibly increasing his G-Power and as such countering the effect, not stopping his energy from being absorbed.

What I want to talk about here is that his power is shown as increasing when it should be decreasing. In other words, the opponent is still experiencing a power increase, but Drago also sees this increase.

Moving in timeless zones doesn’t gives infinite speed. It used to years ago, but it no longer does so currently.

If the rules for infinite speed have changed, there's nothing we can do. So even if it's not infinite speed it gets resistance to time manipulation?

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

I don't understand why. After Drago was attacked by Dharak, all he could think about was destroying Dharak. Dan thinks Dharak's attack drove him insane.

Drago was only rampant because he was acting through his subconscious alone, sheer instinct as Dan calls it so.

Nemus' ability and what you're talking about are different abilities.

They are indeed, and so are Lars Lion and Nemus'. The effect is what they have in common.

What you're saying is that you take the losing rival Bakugan as your own ally in battle. The ability I'm talking about is to bring your own friendly Bakugan back into battle.

Pure Light can restore a Bakugan from any side of the Battle Field. Runo picked Preyas for obvious reasons, but for what Chan Lee states, it works with wherever Bakugan of your choice; friend or foe.

Even if their Attribute Energy is lost to the IT System, the Bakugan's abilities are not lost when they lose their Energy.

My point is that the Attribute Energy has no direct correlation with the abilities they got after it. It’s weird to suggest that the Attribute Energies are the reason they can use X ability when it’s been outright stated that they have already lost them altogether.

Apollonir has two skills. Firstly, only the opponent's power returns to the initial level. Secondly, the power of both sides returns to the initial level.

I’m aware of this. My point is that I can bet that the first is not an exclusive ability and I’m sure Drago has never used the second as far as I can remember.

What I want to talk about here is that his power is shown as increasing when it should be decreasing. In other words, the opponent is still experiencing a power increase, but Drago also sees this increase.

I know. But the point is that Drago is not resisting Tentaclear's Energy Absorption. He’s forcing his G-Power at a higher rate than Tentaclear can absorb it, but his G-Power is still being absorbed nonetheless, as there’s nothing stopping it from happening.

So even if it's not infinite speed it gets resistance to time manipulation?

Yeah.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Drago

There are a few more things on CRT that I forgot to mention. Large Size plot: Drago is as big as a building. Here is the difference between the heights of Drago and other Bakugan. Most Bakugan are either the same height or taller than Drago. I guess being as big as a building gives you at least Large size 0. I still wanted to consult.

This ability of Apollonir can be considered as power absorption.

Darkus Infinity Helios Hihg may gain Godly Regen or resistance to Erasure from Existence:

Marucho is forced to erase Bakugan Interspace. So, as a final resort to stop him, Marucho decided to ultimately and completely delete Bakugan Interspace using a Deletion Program he developed. Once activated, this Deletion Program would delete anything and everything in B.I., including B.I. itself. It would be completely erased and dissapeer forever, leaving nothing left. The Brawlers and everyone inside were able to make it out and back into the real world, using Marucho's Accespoints, except for Helios and Spectra who stayed behind to fend off Mag-Mels Chaos Bakugan. Before they could make it out, the deletion program did its job and completely erased B.I. forever. Including Mag-Mels Chaos Bakugan, Spectra and Helios. But somehow, in the following episode, Spectra and Helios appear to help fight against Mag-Mel with absolutely no harm or even scratches despite being completely erased. Bear in mind that, at the time, everyone who was trapped in B.I. had their ability to come back into the real world taken away. People could teleport in, but they weren't able to teleport back out. Once coming inside they would be permanently trapped. The only way they were able to ever leave was using emergency Accesspoints Marucho developed at the last moment but Dan and Drago used the last one to escape, leaving Spectra and Helios trapped. So the only logical way both could have survived and come back from B.I.'s deletion is by regenerating after the erasure. To have High-Godly Regen you need to be able to survive being erased and the reality you're in being destroyed, which is exactly what needed to happen here. Because to be frank, without regenerating, theres literally NO possible way those 2 could come back from being completely deleted, let alone escaping the erased reality at all. In addition, Spectra and Helios both showed absolutely 0 signs of panic or worry upon being left behind (in fact they were rather confident and straight up didnt care), strongly implying that being deleted wouldnt end or even harm them, as demonstrated. So if acceptable, both would have High-Godly Rege or Resistance to Erasing from Existence

 

[Matrixxxx]

The dimension is called the Dark Dimension. The main thing I'm talking about is that time stops in this dimension and Drago and Razenoid can move here.

The fact that it moves is not enough for infinite speed, it will only take a resistance from this event

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

bump

 

[Zeinx1]

Conceptual Manipulation: Now the reason for this would be because of the Infinity and Silent Cores. But to be more specific, this ability would come from creating the 2 cores and the 6 attributes that all Bakugan in existence would eventually obtain for themselves. Firstly, in the beginning of the series, Drago explains to the brawlers about his homeworld and the 2 forces in the very center of it all. Forces that he specifies as "Infinity, the source of all positive energy, and the Silent Core, the source of all negative energy. These 2 opposing forces maintain the equalibrium of our dimension." You can find his statement in this episode (skip to 15:17). Basically, to make the story short, Drago is explaining that the Infinity and Silent Cores are the sources of literally all Positive and Negative forces in the Bakugan verse. But of course, that alone wouldnt be enough to grant C.M. to him. So to further give this leverage, there is also the fact that the concepts of said Positive and Negative forces were never a thing to begin with until Vestroia was created by the Original Dragonoid long ago. Although its true that the 6 Ancient Soldiers were the ones who formed the Infinity and Silent Cores, they acomplished it through gathering already existing forces. Forces that were first brought into creation the instant Vestroia itself was created. In other words, if Vestroia was never created, then neither would these concepts and other concepts that they come with (ex: Negative Energy brings evil while Positive Energy brings Good). The same treatment goes for the 6 Bakugan attributes according tothis I found. Long ago, when Vestroia used to be in its original form, Bakugan were living as normal creatures. But out of nowhere, a burst of positive energy came and created the literal 6 Attributes, giving Bakugan the power of the attributes. With this, it proves/strongly implies that the 6 Attributes were concepts that never existed until Positive Energy created them (this also explains why only the Infinity Core gives its holder the complete power of all 6 Attributes unlike its Silent Core counterpart). It is debateable on whether or not Code Eve or the Original Drago are responsible for this feat, but it really shouldnt change anything.

Disagree

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Disagree

Why

 

[Zeinx1]

Why

Disagree, Attributes, Positive Energy and Negative Energy not existing before doesn’t means that the Concept of these things didn’t exist beforehand, they just didn’t had any practical use.

fra

 

[Aolphl]

Things that have been accepted so far seems fine.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

So it's going to take me some time two evaluate all of this since I'm doing family stuff today but I'll comment when able though. To start, like others, I disagree with the infinite speed as that evidence isn't enough but I'm fine with treating it as resistance to time stop.

For Naga, I'm fine with power bestowal but we don't give characters the abilities from what they create without explicit evidence since creators don't always have the abilities of their creations.

I'll try and respond to the other stuff as soon as possible.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Sorry for not getting to this quickly but work is killing me, however I have free time tomorrow so I'll finish my evaluation tomorrow first chance I get. Again, sorry for keeping you guys waiting.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

No problem

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Helios: When Viper Helios first appears, he radiates an Aura around him. Dan asks what this is. Drago says, "It's nothing but a scary Aura." This line is found in the original Japanese version. They changed this conversation in the Western version. (Aura; Fear-inducing)

He tries to annoy Drago with his words so that he can see that he is using all his power. (Social Influencing)

Even in his Viper Helios form, he has 3 Power Nullification abilities:

• Burst Core: Nullifies all of the opponent's abilities.
• Nova Spiral: Nullifies all of the opponent's abilities.
• Nova Defenser: Nullifies the opponent's ability (maximum of two can be nullified)

For Aura, I can definitely agree he has an aura that radiated an affect . Now my translation on YouTube to English says it's terrible when the aura wave comes but the kid also mentions it's scary. Sadly we don't see it do much to them so I can't say if it's worth much potent wise but I think it's fine anyways. I also agree with Social Influencing .

As for Power Nullification, the wiki doesn't have scans for those 3 abilities. Now I'm not saying they don't exist or that the Bakugan wiki is unreliable but we at least need references. If you could provide the reference to the exact episode those abilities debut in then it would be easier for people to look for them for right now I am neutral on it but if Bakugan experts can back those abilities existing then I'm fine with Power Nullification.

Darkus Infinity Helios:
Marucho is forced to erase Bakugan Interspace. So, as a final resort to stop him, Marucho decided to ultimately and completely delete Bakugan Interspace using a Deletion Program he developed. Once activated, this Deletion Program would delete anything and everything in B.I., including B.I. itself. It would be completely erased and dissapeer forever, leaving nothing left. The Brawlers and everyone inside were able to make it out and back into the real world, using Marucho's Accespoints, except for Helios and Spectra who stayed behind to fend off Mag-Mels Chaos Bakugan. Before they could make it out, the deletion program did its job and completely erased B.I. forever. Including Mag-Mels Chaos Bakugan, Spectra and Helios. But somehow, in the following episode, Spectra and Helios appear to help fight against Mag-Mel with absolutely no harm or even scratches despite being completely erased. Bear in mind that, at the time, everyone who was trapped in B.I. had their ability to come back into the real world taken away. People could teleport in, but they weren't able to teleport back out. Once coming inside they would be permanently trapped. The only way they were able to ever leave was using emergency Accesspoints Marucho developed at the last moment but Dan and Drago used the last one to escape, leaving Spectra and Helios trapped. So the only logical way both could have survived and come back from B.I.'s deletion is by regenerating after the erasure. To have High-Godly Regen you need to be able to survive being erased and the reality you're in being destroyed, which is exactly what needed to happen here. Because to be frank, without regenerating, theres literally NO possible way those 2 could come back from being completely deleted, let alone escaping the erased reality at all. In addition, Spectra and Helios both showed absolutely 0 signs of panic or worry upon being left behind (in fact they were rather confident and straight up didnt care), strongly implying that being deleted wouldnt end or even harm them, as demonstrated. So if acceptable, both would have High-Godly Rege or Resistance to Existence Erasure


Cyborg Helios can obtain information about his opponent's power thanks to the machines he has. He has this feature in all his forms except Viper Helios. (Information Analysis)

He has many attacks that can be considered Danmaku

In the Bakugan wiki, it is stated that his body is covered with poisonous thorns (Poison Manipulation)

As the name suggests, he is a Cyborg (Cyborgization)

Does it count as Explosion Manipulation?

Then surviving the eraser would be Resistance to Existence Erasure at least but High-Godly regeneration would need more than just what was shown since we just see the flash wash over them.

I agree with Information Analysis, Danmaku and Cyborgization but like the Power Nullification for normal Heilos, it doesn't have a scan or reference so i can agree with it since I don't know how accurate the Bakugan wiki is.

As for the explosion manipulation, it looks like a wave that blow holes in the wall, the smoke is just form the destruction of the wall, however, he mentioned that it shuts down his opponents abilities so you could get Power Nullification for this but the only thing explosion related seems to be the name honestly.

Hydranoid: He can have BFR with the Doom Card. As a result, he sends the Bakugan he defeats to the Doom Dimension. This card is not specific to Hydranoid. This card is a card owned by the user of Bakugan. Masquerade, the first owner of Hydranoid, has this card. The next owner, Alice, does not have this card. We can open a new form for Hydranoid and name it "Alpha Hydranoid with Alice" and all Hydranoid forms before Alice will have BFR with Doom Card.

Gravity Chamber: Moves all opponents on the battlefield to Hydranoid's card, and whoever's power level is lower than his is defeated. This is how it is explained in Bakugan Wiki. So unless it has higher AP than Hydranoid, it loses. I think this ability would be Limited Fate Manipulation.

In other words, Hydranoid can use his abilities to reduce the opponent's strength, and then use this ability to send him to the Destiny Dimension. Stat Manipulation + Limited Fate Manipulation + BFR combo I don't know if such a combo is allowed in Crossverse, I wanted to ask you.

Bodily Weaponry

I can agree with the BFR (Doom Dimension).

As for Gravity Chamber, while the wiki may describe it as that, the screen simply shows him pull Bakugan into the vortex, BFR them, and then he amplifies himself with their power so it's Air Manipulation (the vortex) + BFR (sending them to a different dimension) + Absorption (Absorbs the power of the opponent caught by the ability and uses it to empower himself)

Apollonir: This ability of Apollonir can be considered as power absorption.

This is just a type of Absorption, as Power Absorption is more so specifically taking abilities. He was absorbing Drago himself from out of the Bakugan. So it's a different type so I'd just say Absorption and explain what he did.

Dharak: Phantom Dharak's attack causes Drago to go crazy and fight his urges In the rest of the scene, we see Drago sleeping in his own mind. So Dharak's attack first drives you insane and then puts you to sleep within your mind. Drago wouldn't have survived if it wasn't for Dan. (Type 2 Madness Manipulation/Sleep Manipulation)

I guess this is ok.

Sabator: Tough Rock: Nullifies the opponent's abilities for a short time. (Power Nullfication)

This needs a scan or reference.

Base Drago: His power increased when it should have been transferred to his opponent. There may be resistance to power absorption. Other Bakugan from the Dragonoid type should also be added: Mock Dragonoid, Helios, Wavern, Naga and Apollonir.

Uh this takes me to a scene we're the guy just flashed the Bakugan with a light ability that stops their movement and yeets them into a different dimension. What's the timestamp for the scene when Drago resists power absorption?

Infinity Dragonoid: While in this form, Drago has the Infinity Core. All abilities that Wavern has with the infinity core should be added to all forms of Drago that have the infinity core. Infinity Dragonoid and all Dragonoid forms after this form have the infinity core. All of Wavern's haxes, except the ability to fly, come from the infinity core.

Dextra Attack: This is like atomizing. In order to use this ability, you must have a Bakugan with 6 characteristics. So there may be limited use. With the creation hax, he can create and use 5 Bakugan with different features. (Deconstruction)

I don't mind him getting abilities from the infinite core that others have from it

As for deconstruction, it seems he just couldn't handle the power so his body got destroyed, they didn't deconstruct him through an ability, it's just his body broke apart due to him being too weak.

I'll finish evaluating the last characters today, I just need to charge my phone.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Perfect Dragonoid/Perfect Core: It takes the core of silence that Naga has. Naga needs to get all the hax he has thanks to the silence core. All of his Haxes, except the ability to fly, come from the Silence Core. All Drago forms after this form should have these hax's thanks to the Perfect Core. So it's not just specific to this form.

Drago's Perfect Core Form should get the Incorporeality hax. While in this form, he gives up his body and continues as a core.

Conceptual Manipulation: Now the reason for this would be because of the Infinity and Silent Cores. But to be more specific, this ability would come from creating the 2 cores and the 6 attributes that all Bakugan in existence would eventually obtain for themselves. Firstly, in the beginning of the series, Drago explains to the brawlers about his homeworld and the 2 forces in the very center of it all. Forces that he specifies as "Infinity, the source of all positive energy, and the Silent Core, the source of all negative energy. These 2 opposing forces maintain the equalibrium of our dimension." You can find his statement in this episode (skip to 15:17). Basically, to make the story short, Drago is explaining that the Infinity and Silent Cores are the sources of literally all Positive and Negative forces in the Bakugan verse. But of course, that alone wouldnt be enough to grant C.M. to him. So to further give this leverage, there is also the fact that the concepts of said Positive and Negative forces were never a thing to begin with until Vestroia was created by the Original Dragonoid long ago. Although its true that the 6 Ancient Soldiers were the ones who formed the Infinity and Silent Cores, they acomplished it through gathering already existing forces. Forces that were first brought into creation the instant Vestroia itself was created. In other words, if Vestroia was never created, then neither would these concepts and other concepts that they come with (ex: Negative Energy brings evil while Positive Energy brings Good). The same treatment goes for the 6 Bakugan attributes according tothis I found. Long ago, when Vestroia used to be in its original form, Bakugan were living as normal creatures. But out of nowhere, a burst of positive energy came and created the literal 6 Attributes, giving Bakugan the power of the attributes. With this, it proves/strongly implies that the 6 Attributes were concepts that never existed until Positive Energy created them (this also explains why only the Infinity Core gives its holder the complete power of all 6 Attributes unlike its Silent Core counterpart). It is debateable on whether or not Code Eve or the Original Drago are responsible for this feat, but it really shouldnt change anything.

I'm fine with him having the perfect core abilities but I'm neutral on Conceptual Manipulation.

Cross Dragonoid: He must have all the haxes that Apollonir had. Because it takes Apollonir's attribute energy. The attribute energy also contains Apollonir's DNA. Bakugan's Hax are found in their DNA (except for Mechanical Bakugan abilities and forbidden card abilities). I will write below the evidence that Bakugan have Hax through DNA.

Seems fine. I agree with this.

Helix Dragonoid: In this form, he evolves by absorbing the energy contained in a bomb that contains the characteristic energy of all Six of the Six Ancient Warriors. It has been confirmed in the Wiki that Helix Dragonoid has the DNA of ancient warriors. So the Haxes of Apollonir, Oberus, Frosch, Lars Lion, Clayf and Exedra should be in Helix Dragonoid and all Drago forms after Helix Dragonoid. By the way, on Clayf's page, it says Apollonir in the name section. Let's fix that too.

I guess this is ok.

Lumino Dragonoid: Drago receives the power called "ELEMENT" from a Bakugan named Neo. Lumino Dragonoid, who has the element, and all forms after this form must have the haxes that Neo has thanks to the element. In short, Empathy Manipulation and Life Manipulation should be added.

I agree with this as well.

Titanium Dragonoid: Drago receives the power of Code Eve and all the Bakugan DNA within it. Now he has become the Father of Bakugan. Code Eve contains the DNA of all Bakugan. Titanium Dragonoid and the Fusion Dragonoid and Aerolblitz Dragonoid forms that follow this form must have all the Bakugan haxes that Code Eve has. By the way, Code Eve has the DNA of all Bakugan except Leonidas and Mechanical Bakugan.

Drago can drive a motorcycle. Since it is not like a real-life engine, it may be considered invalid, but if it is valid, it means that he should get the "Vehicular Mastery" hax.

Unless I misunderstood the Holy Manipulation hax, it is given to characters who receive a holy power or can manipulate holy power. Drago gets power from Code Eve, also known as the Sacred Orb. Will Dharak also receive unholy manipulation because he was cursed by the Sacred Orb?

Now I will present evidence that when you have the DNA of a Bakugan, you also have its abilities. It was previously removed from the fandom due to insufficient evidence. Professor Kukui could have proven it if he had argued it a little better. Still, I would like to thank him for his contributions to Bakugan.

I had proven that the attribute energies of the Six Ancient Warriors also contained their DNA. Nemus, who received Lars Lion's DNA, had the ability to resurrect the lost Bakugan and bring them back into battle, just like Lars Lion could. He does not have this ability in his base form. However, it has received its attribute energy and has an evolved form.

Made from Hydranoid's DNA, Hades has Hydranoid's abilities

Hydranoid's abilities
Hades's abilities

Drago takes the Pyrus Attribute Energy containing Apollonir's DNA and turns into Cross Dragonoid. Just like Apollonir, he can bring the power level of the opposing Bakugan to the level they started the match with.

Cross Drago's abilities
Apollonir's abilities

What the two abilities have in common is that they reduce the opponent's strength to the strength they had at the beginning of the match.

While I guess him having Code Eve and the DNA of all Bakugan is fine I'm unsure about him gaining all their abilities. I'd prefer a direct statement, and yes I could see it being the case since their DNA seems to be their make up/origin from Code Eve, I'd rather just give it a "likely has the abilities of all Bakugan"

Besides the DNA stuff, the motorcycle thing isn't Vehicular Mastery, you'd need him to preform complex tricks or feats that basic people wouldn't be able to do. In the scan, he simply just drove in a straight line which doesn't take mastery, just basic driving skills.

Fusion Dragonoid: All previous haxes

Afterimage Creation

I agree.

General Bakugan Hax: Bakugan can breathe in space. (Self-Sustenance Type 1 and Radiation Manipulation Resistance)

Large Size plot: Drago is as big as a building. Here is the difference between the heights of Drago and other Bakugan. Most Bakugan are either the same height or taller than Drago. I guess being as big as a building gives you at least Large size 0. I still wanted to consult.

I also agree with this.

Sorry it took me so long to finally evaluate this thread fully.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

As for Power Nullification

Nova Sprial
Burst Core: This may seem like creating a shield, but it is also classified as canceling the opponent's attack on the Bakugan wiki. It can be both forcefield creation and power nullification. But the attack seems to be canceled if the attack hits the shield. Another proof that it counts as canceling the ability is that the power given to him by Drago's fire attack is gone and Drago's power level drops to 600. You could say this is stat manipulation, but since Helios cancels his ability, Drago's power from his ability card decreases. Power nullification themed abilities in Bakugan not only ignore the attack, but also ignore the power increase that the opponent gets by performing that attack.

This needs a scan or reference.

Tough Rock

An important Sabator ability that I forgot to add to CRT: With this ability, he absorbs the power of Darkus (the name in Bakugan for characters with Darkness Manipulation). While doing this, it creates a gravitational force field. So Darkness Manipulation absorption and Gravity Manipulation

.

We can add Danmaku for Dharak

Uh this takes me to a scene we're the guy just flashed the Bakugan with a light ability that stops their movement and yeets them into a different dimension. What's the timestamp for the scene when Drago resists power absorption?

My mistake, I added the wrong link. This is true, but I seem to be wrong about this. I also talked about this issue with Monkey Dunno. Here, while Tentaclear's power increases, Drago's power decreases. Afterwards, Drago resists this and increases his power without using any abilities. In other words, the power of both Tentaclar and Drago is increasing. I thought there might be resistance because Drago's power increased instead of decreasing.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

"likely has the abilities of all Bakugan"

There's one more thing about Drago having all the Bakugan DNA. Infinity Dragonoid has the Infinity Core, which is the core of Vestroia, and when he has this core, he can use all 6 of the 6 elements. Likewise, he no longer has a talent limit. He states this himself. You might say this is an exaggeration. However, later in the scene, he uses Gorem and Skyress' abilities against Naga. This is the effect that appears on the screen when Gorem uses this ability. This is the effect that appears on the screen when Skyress uses this ability. And these visual animations are just Gorem and Skyress' ability animations. In other words, since Drago uses this after stating that he has no skill limit, he can literally use the abilities of all Vestroia Bakugan, who get their powers from the Infinity Core. Code Eve, on the other hand, directly contains the DNA of all Bakugan, and according to what is written in Bakugan Wiki, the Infinity Core is a part of Code Eve. So my suggestion is this:

Infinity Dragonoid: Thanks to the Infinity Core, all Vestroian Bakugan should have Hax.

Perfect Dragonoid: Only Naga's core is added to the previous form. In other words, the Hax of Vestroian Bakugan + the Hax of Naga thanks to the Silence Core.

Neo Dragonoid: Can use the power of the Infinity Core, but is limited. That's why not all Vestroian Bakugan have hax.

Cross Dragonoid: Neo Drago's limited usage problem no longer exists.

Titanium Dragonoid: Since he received the power and DNA in Code Eve, he now has the hax of all Bakugan in the universe. Except for Mechanical Bakugan and Leonidas.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Bump

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Nova Sprial
Burst Core: This may seem like creating a shield, but it is also classified as canceling the opponent's attack on the Bakugan wiki. It can be both forcefield creation and power nullification. But the attack seems to be canceled if the attack hits the shield. Another proof that it counts as canceling the ability is that the power given to him by Drago's fire attack is gone and Drago's power level drops to 600. You could say this is stat manipulation, but since Helios cancels his ability, Drago's power from his ability card decreases. Power nullification themed abilities in Bakugan not only ignore the attack, but also ignore the power increase that the opponent gets by performing that attack.

Tough Rock

An important Sabator ability that I forgot to add to CRT: With this ability, he absorbs the power of Darkus (the name in Bakugan for characters with Darkness Manipulation). While doing this, it creates a gravitational force field. So Darkness Manipulation absorption and Gravity Manipulation

We can add Danmaku for Dharak

My mistake, I added the wrong link. This is true, but I seem to be wrong about this. I also talked about this issue with Monkey Dunno. Here, while Tentaclear's power increases, Drago's power decreases. Afterwards, Drago resists this and increases his power without using any abilities. In other words, the power of both Tentaclar and Drago is increasing. I thought there might be resistance because Drago's power increased instead of decreasing.

These all look good.

There's one more thing about Drago having all the Bakugan DNA. Infinity Dragonoid has the Infinity Core, which is the core of Vestroia, and when he has this core, he can use all 6 of the 6 elements. Likewise, he no longer has a talent limit. He states this himself. You might say this is an exaggeration. However, later in the scene, he uses Gorem and Skyress' abilities against Naga. This is the effect that appears on the screen when Gorem uses this ability. This is the effect that appears on the screen when Skyress uses this ability. And these visual animations are just Gorem and Skyress' ability animations. In other words, since Drago uses this after stating that he has no skill limit, he can literally use the abilities of all Vestroia Bakugan, who get their powers from the Infinity Core. Code Eve, on the other hand, directly contains the DNA of all Bakugan, and according to what is written in Bakugan Wiki, the Infinity Core is a part of Code Eve. So my suggestion is this:

Infinity Dragonoid: Thanks to the Infinity Core, all Vestroian Bakugan should have Hax.

Perfect Dragonoid: Only Naga's core is added to the previous form. In other words, the Hax of Vestroian Bakugan + the Hax of Naga thanks to the Silence Core.

Neo Dragonoid: Can use the power of the Infinity Core, but is limited. That's why not all Vestroian Bakugan have hax.

Cross Dragonoid: Neo Drago's limited usage problem no longer exists.

Titanium Dragonoid: Since he received the power and DNA in Code Eve, he now has the hax of all Bakugan in the universe. Except for Mechanical Bakugan and Leonidas.

Hmmm, seems fair enough.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I largely agree with Griffin's points.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Then I add the accepted ones to the profiles.

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

so shouldn't this topic be closed since it has been accepted and added to the profiles